sweet monitor, I do need a monitor I can swivel into portait, and view my photographs on with accurate colour repoduction and at resonable price this look like the monitor for me :D
Lovely. A great choice for those looking for a cheap screen. Sure, one can have a TN-crap for much less, but most of those don't even have a proper stand, or any adjustments, so even if you don't value the proper panel, you're still getting your moneys' worth in ergonomics.
I still can't have my dream monitor, 24"or 23" 1920x1200, e-IPS panel with displayport and DVI and a zero screwed pixel warranty! Yeah 1920x1080 is taking over and mostly took over now but I'm a gamer that goes back to old games, I'm currently playing morrowind now and are forced to run it at a non native resolution which looks horrible because my monitor is 1680x1050, if I had a 1920x1200 monitor I could have it at 1600x1200 and it would look perfect. I'm basically limited to the HP HZ24W or whatever, maybe I could get one with somewhere that has a pixel guarentee =\
Originally Posted by neonplanet40 The Dell u2311 is better. This monitor came out last summer . . . . .
I got one of these monitors, and am very happy with it. Has Bit Tech even reviewed the Dell U2311? It's a quality IPS monitor, which I got on special offer from Dell for £222. I use it for gaming and watching movies.
Originally Posted by storm20200 I still can't have my dream monitor, 24"or 23" 1920x1200, e-IPS panel with displayport and DVI and a zero screwed pixel warranty!
I wanted the exact same specification and have just purchased a HP LP2475W for £357 delivered. OK, so HP don't to my knowledge offer a zero dead pixel gaurantee, but as an ICT manager I buy hundreds of cheaper TN panels each year and in my experience dead or stuck pixels are a rarity these days.
The HP LP2475W is a 1920x1200 H-IPS panel (the same panel in an Eizo will cost you a grand), has Display Port, HDMI, DVI and a host of other inputs, and once properly calibrated is fantastic (it's much too bright out of the box).
IMO at £360 it can't be beaten. Check out the reviews on Trusted Reviews, PRAD, TFT Central, etc.... and of course bit-tech.
perfect, i love ips and pva panels. it was about time they were becoming affordable, and i hope all the TN **** will disappear from the market. i am also on the move to buy one good panel to replace my Samsung 226bw, a 22inch with full-hd res is enough for me, don't like big panels, small screens + hi res equal crisper image. keep them coming...
I currently have the Viewsonic VX2260WM - 22" Full HD monitor. Would the image quality increase be noticeable enough to justify an upgrade in your opinion?
Edit: For reference, I use my PC for gaming and bluray watching.
Could Bit-Tech maybe invest in some monitor calibration equipment? Qualitative descriptions of the lagom tests are a poor substitute for hard numbers, and leave this website looking amateurish compared to others (such as AnandTech and TFT Central). Most of the reviews here involve rigorous testing and are generally excellent, but with monitors we're left with wooly descriptions like 'a touch colder' and 'slightly deeper blacks'. You note that 'It's difficult to say subjectively which is the more accurate'... why not just buy a colorimeter and say it objectively?
I bought the NEC early last year following the Bittech review. This Viewsonic was actually available then for about £260 (£40 less than I paid for the NEC). There were no reviews around at the time I chose to pay the extra
Originally Posted by sb1991 Could Bit-Tech maybe invest in some monitor calibration equipment? Qualitative descriptions of the lagom tests are a poor substitute for hard numbers, and leave this website looking amateurish compared to others (such as AnandTech and TFT Central). Most of the reviews here involve rigorous testing and are generally excellent, but with monitors we're left with wooly descriptions like 'a touch colder' and 'slightly deeper blacks'. You note that 'It’s difficult to say subjectively which is the more accurate'... why not just buy a colorimeter and say it objectively?
Well said. Bit Tech seem to do good reviews on the majority of PC hardware, but offer really poor coverage of monitors. When they do a review, it is decidedly second rate stuff, missing rigours analysis and stuffed with subjective comments. Hard to gauge anything much from such reviews.
Bit Tech give plenty of PSU, case, fan, etc, etc group tests, which is great, but when was the last time anyone can remember a monitor group test? I just don't get why they choose to do this. A good monitor can make a huge difference to a PC user's enjoyment. High time for Bit Tech to take monitors seriously, and extend their good reviewing standards to cover monitors.
Originally Posted by sb1991 Could Bit-Tech maybe invest in some monitor calibration equipment? Qualitative descriptions of the lagom tests are a poor substitute for hard numbers, and leave this website looking amateurish compared to others (such as AnandTech and TFT Central). Most of the reviews here involve rigorous testing and are generally excellent, but with monitors we're left with wooly descriptions like 'a touch colder' and 'slightly deeper blacks'. You note that 'It’s difficult to say subjectively which is the more accurate'... why not just buy a colorimeter and say it objectively?
Yep, I vote for some real numbers too. Subjective comparison has its place, but it would be better backed up with a bit of science.
They don't need monitor calibration equipment, they could do it with a DSLR.
They could also capture real screen grabs of xbox and ps3 games with a £150 Blackmagic card.
I seem to remember once having words with one of their reviewers by email about the utter pointlessness of some of their soundcard testing, although I gave up reading those at that point so they may have improved.
The testing of graphics cards, CPUs and motherboards seems to be microscopically in-depth by comparison and it's a shame this can't be improved.
Some information missing on this review. Does the monitor run at 60MHz or 120? If it is 120 ,and I suspect it is not, is it fully HDCP compliant at 120MHz? The difference in quality on screen is important . I would never again choose a 60 MhZ only screen.
I agree strongly with those who have said much more needs to be done in terms of information provided and monitor calibration.
Looks nice. Unfortunately for me, I bought a new monitor too recently to buy this too. Mine cost only $50 less :(
However i'm still happy with my purchase. My only gripe is the view angle. But it has a higher resolution and HDMI inputs. I was originally going to buy that Dell that was reviewed a while back. At the time it was $240 ish. I came back the next day with a credit card and they jacked the price up to $350. I settled on an Acer model, its a TN panel though. Would love to get my grubby little hands on this just to see what all the fuss over IPS is.
Originally Posted by sb1991 Could Bit-Tech maybe invest in some monitor calibration equipment? Qualitative descriptions of the lagom tests are a poor substitute for hard numbers, and leave this website looking amateurish compared to others (such as AnandTech and TFT Central). Most of the reviews here involve rigorous testing and are generally excellent, but with monitors we're left with wooly descriptions like 'a touch colder' and 'slightly deeper blacks'. You note that 'Its difficult to say subjectively which is the more accurate'... why not just buy a colorimeter and say it objectively?
+1
Bit-Tech wouldn't review a hard drive and say it "seems" faster.
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ReplyI've still got a VX912, VX924 and a VX922 sitting happily at home.
Having said that, I'm still very happy with my 4 year old Dell which does the trick.
I got one of these monitors, and am very happy with it. Has Bit Tech even reviewed the Dell U2311? It's a quality IPS monitor, which I got on special offer from Dell for £222. I use it for gaming and watching movies.
Includes an ICC profile for the monitor to improve colour accuracy.
I wanted the exact same specification and have just purchased a HP LP2475W for £357 delivered. OK, so HP don't to my knowledge offer a zero dead pixel gaurantee, but as an ICT manager I buy hundreds of cheaper TN panels each year and in my experience dead or stuck pixels are a rarity these days.
The HP LP2475W is a 1920x1200 H-IPS panel (the same panel in an Eizo will cost you a grand), has Display Port, HDMI, DVI and a host of other inputs, and once properly calibrated is fantastic (it's much too bright out of the box).
IMO at £360 it can't be beaten. Check out the reviews on Trusted Reviews, PRAD, TFT Central, etc.... and of course bit-tech.
Edit: For reference, I use my PC for gaming and bluray watching.
hmmm
Well said. Bit Tech seem to do good reviews on the majority of PC hardware, but offer really poor coverage of monitors. When they do a review, it is decidedly second rate stuff, missing rigours analysis and stuffed with subjective comments. Hard to gauge anything much from such reviews.
Bit Tech give plenty of PSU, case, fan, etc, etc group tests, which is great, but when was the last time anyone can remember a monitor group test? I just don't get why they choose to do this. A good monitor can make a huge difference to a PC user's enjoyment. High time for Bit Tech to take monitors seriously, and extend their good reviewing standards to cover monitors.
Yep, I vote for some real numbers too. Subjective comparison has its place, but it would be better backed up with a bit of science.
They could also capture real screen grabs of xbox and ps3 games with a £150 Blackmagic card.
I seem to remember once having words with one of their reviewers by email about the utter pointlessness of some of their soundcard testing, although I gave up reading those at that point so they may have improved.
The testing of graphics cards, CPUs and motherboards seems to be microscopically in-depth by comparison and it's a shame this can't be improved.
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I agree strongly with those who have said much more needs to be done in terms of information provided and monitor calibration.
However i'm still happy with my purchase. My only gripe is the view angle. But it has a higher resolution and HDMI inputs. I was originally going to buy that Dell that was reviewed a while back. At the time it was $240 ish. I came back the next day with a credit card and they jacked the price up to $350. I settled on an Acer model, its a TN panel though. Would love to get my grubby little hands on this just to see what all the fuss over IPS is.
+1
Bit-Tech wouldn't review a hard drive and say it "seems" faster.
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