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Eizo S2242W - 22in widescreen TFT review

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[PUNK] crompers 14th August 2009, 10:07 Quote
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it's also priced on a par with a number of rather desirable 24in PVA screens such as the HP LP2475W.

Surely the HP is S/H-IPS? do you mean the 2408WFP?

Looks like a nice monitor certainly, for that money though im going to be wanting more screen real estate. The HP is certainly winning my student loan at the moment.
Claave 14th August 2009, 10:15 Quote
We used the HP as an example of a great screen for around £400, but yes, you're right, the HP is based on H-IPS not PVA.
[PUNK] crompers 14th August 2009, 10:17 Quote
Ok thanks, the wording in that last paragraph is rather confusing though, it seems like you are stating the HP is PVA
Claave 14th August 2009, 10:28 Quote
Yeah, I've changed it to eliminate that confusion. Thanks for flagging it!
[USRF]Obiwan 14th August 2009, 10:49 Quote
Its just to expensive for what you get.
Krikkit 14th August 2009, 11:48 Quote
Close, but no cigar. Pick one up 2nd hand on eBay or something and it's a winnar.
Dave_M 14th August 2009, 12:16 Quote
All I would be looking for is a decent quality 1080p TN monitor. Somthing like very even back lighting with deep blacks for a small premium and I would snap it up. Until then I'll be sticking to my old 1440x900 19 incher.
Claave 14th August 2009, 13:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by Dave_M
All I would be looking for is a decent quality 1080p TN monitor. Somthing like very even back lighting with deep blacks for a small premium and I would snap it up. Until then I'll be sticking to my old 1440x900 19 incher.

The BenQ G2220HD that I did in CPC last issue was pretty good for £130 - TN, so still muted colours and not great contrast, but good for the price.
mauvecloud 14th August 2009, 15:47 Quote
Any chance of getting reviews of 30 inch monitors soon?
Xir 14th August 2009, 16:38 Quote
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our exhausting hunt for the perfect affordable LCD panel
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With a typical retail sticker above £400, this is one pricey 22in panel

Well...if you're serious about the first quote: why don't you just go ahead and test an affordable LCD panel? Any affordable LCD panel, really. Haven't seen a single one around here.

Not perfect-class material, nonono, just as you named it, an affordable panel.
Maybe a 22" and a 24".
And define them by the word "affordable" as in el-cheapo and not as in "well worth it's (heap of) money"

I realize there's a lot of demand for high-class panels out there, and its-the-thing-youll-look-at-most and all that, but you're catering to that audience allready.
Just test some cheap panels once! ;-)
Cupboard 14th August 2009, 18:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xir

I realize there's a lot of demand for high-class panels out there, and its-the-thing-youll-look-at-most and all that, but you're catering to that audience allready.
Just test some cheap panels once! ;-)

They've tested loads! They all have the conclusion "its fairly cheap but due to the TN panel the colours are a bit pants so we would go for something else unless your budget doesnt allow you too"
Though they haven't done so many 24"...

I really like the high res on a smaller screen - its nice to have the resolution but you can't always find the space.
Elton 14th August 2009, 21:22 Quote
I'm still rocking my 18" S-IPS..

NEC + Eizo are still the top dogs, although the price is ungodly.
HourBeforeDawn 15th August 2009, 00:26 Quote
If Im going to spend 800+ for a 22" might as well spend a bit more and go for the DoubleSight 30" LCD with a H-IPS Panel for $1200us, thats what I own and its an amazing screen and awesome response but it is nice to see this tech showing up in smaller screens, Im hoping better screens over TN will become the norm because my god the colors that we are missing on TN panels is insane its like night and day on an H-IPS panel, everything looks just so much better and even the details are cleaner, PVA panels too have a great color range.
http://www.pcflip.com/reviews/miscellaneous/doublesight-ds305w/
Elton 15th August 2009, 01:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
If Im going to spend 800+ for a 22" might as well spend a bit more and go for the DoubleSight 30" LCD with a H-IPS Panel for $1200us, thats what I own and its an amazing screen and awesome response but it is nice to see this tech showing up in smaller screens, Im hoping better screens over TN will become the norm because my god the colors that we are missing on TN panels is insane its like night and day on an H-IPS panel, everything looks just so much better and even the details are cleaner, PVA panels too have a great color range.
http://www.pcflip.com/reviews/miscellaneous/doublesight-ds305w/

Possibly the best(although sadly with a very weird size) monitor in terms of color gamut is the NEC 2690WUXi.
HourBeforeDawn 15th August 2009, 02:45 Quote
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Possibly the best(although sadly with a very weird size) monitor in terms of color gamut is the NEC 2690WUXi.

true but in terms of price alone I think Doublesight takes it on that.
jamir12 15th August 2009, 04:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by crompers
Ok thanks, the wording in that last paragraph is rather confusing though, it seems like you are stating the HP is PVA
We used the HP as an example of a great screen for around £400, but yes, you're right, the HP is based on H-IPS not PVA.
Elton 15th August 2009, 07:39 Quote
Sadly after being used to the Mitsubishi DiamondTron CRTs and the NEC Multisyncs...

Eizo is the only other option.. :D

When I get a beefier GPU though, I might consider a 2408WFP or a LP2475w.
Aragon Speed 15th August 2009, 10:24 Quote
TBH we have a 24" with a native of 1920x1200, and at that resolution the screen txt is slightly too small to be comfortable. We tend to run the monitor at 1680x1050.

This makes things slightly blurry around the edges (not enough to notice though unless you are being picky) compared to the native res, but at least we are not getting eye strain.

I'd hate to think what txt is like at that res on a 22" screen.
tin can 15th August 2009, 12:49 Quote
Should be fine if you up the DPI. That can cause problems elsewhere, though (text not fitting in its window in one or two applications, that sort of thing) so I've stopped doing it on my 24" 1920x1200 and got used to the smaller text. Am I right in thinking that Windows 7 has some improvements in that area though?
tmgp 15th August 2009, 19:50 Quote
what about backlight bleeding? no comments on that? that's what keeping me away from most monitors out there nowadays...
JFE 15th August 2009, 23:55 Quote
my take on "the perfect 22in"
http://images.macnn.com/esta/content/0901/dell2209wa-lg.jpg
Dell 2209WA although res is only 1680x1050, it's a f*****g IPS panel
AND it "only" costs £251.85
azrael- 16th August 2009, 00:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by JFE
my take on "the perfect 22in"
http://images.macnn.com/esta/content/0901/dell2209wa-lg.jpg
Dell 2209WA although res is only 1680x1050, it's a f*****g IPS panel
AND it "only" costs £251.85
+1 (but it can be gotten cheaper :)) Our company switched completely to this model after I recommended it. Well, "completely" is not quite right as I got an LG W2600HP just a few weeks earlier. :)

Also, regarding the S2242W, it's surprising to hear of an xVA-based monitor that hasn't input lag. Usually, that's one of the shortcomings of xVA.
fingerbob69 17th August 2009, 22:42 Quote
Is this better than the dell 2209wa? The dell is an isp screen AND its £200 cheaper!

More to the point ...can the 'perfect' 22" screen exist beyond the £200/250 price point without the price immediately negating the term 'perfect?'
Xir 20th August 2009, 12:01 Quote
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More to the point ...can the 'perfect' 22" screen exist beyond the £200/250 price point without the price immediately negating the term 'perfect?'

Exactly my point ;-)
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They've tested loads!

Really? Just the crop of 2009 as a reminder:

Eizo S2242W - 22in widescreen TFT review UK Price (as reviewed): £431.08 (inc VAT)
HP LP2475w - 24in widescreen TFT review UK Price (as reviewed): £436.60 (inc. VAT)
HP LP2275W - 22in widescreen LCD UK Price (as reviewed): £284.92 (inc. VAT)
NEC MultiSync P221W - 22in widescreen LCD UK Price (as reviewed): £425.49 (inc. VAT)
Dell S2209W 22-inch full HD monitor UK Price (as reviewed): £149.99 (inc. VAT)
Viewsonic VX2260WM - 22" Full HD monitor UK Price (as reviewed): £163.29 (inc. VAT)


So, TWO decently proiced monitors, not a single affordable 24" (and a tendency to look at the upper maket segment.)

As I sayd, I don't mind tests of the upper market segment, that's what an enthousiast page is about, but there is a big lack of tests for the lower end.

Xir
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