Great review! Really tempted to get this with my first payslip! Just thought id point out that the UK store link is actually the S-IPS model and not the H-IPS one.
Originally Posted by Radical_Monkey Great review! Really tempted to get this with my first payslip! Just thought id point out that the UK store link is actually the S-IPS model and not the H-IPS one.
To be honest I'd still check the manufacture date - even HP still list it as S-IPS so the likelyhood is retailers might just copy and paste the specs - best to check.
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Originally Posted by Deadpool46 Great article, nice to see this monitor finally reviewed.
In regards to the lack of input lag of the new revision, what revision did you have on the model tested?
Thanks, Mike.
Ours is REV:GIG143. Unfortunately we didn't note the revision of the older sample down as it had to go back in a hurry.
I have the LP2475W monitor and I absolutely loves it! I haven't had any problems with inputlag on my monitor... How do you tell the "old" revision from the new one?
IF you use the PC a lot, and IF you want a 24" screen for reasonable money. Get this.
That's my review of this screen. It's a pleasure to use.
Also I have no idea how any "enthusiast" will say £400 is too much for a screen?! If you don't care about the image quality then sure you can just grab a £100 pile of utter ****, 400 is NOT much for a proper screen.
Originally Posted by SuperNova I have the LP2475W monitor and I absolutely loves it! I haven't had any problems with inputlag on my monitor... How do you tell the "old" revision from the new one?
At the back of the monitor, in the bottom left where all the manufacturer details are you'll have something labelled 'REV' and the one tested here is REV:GIG143.
Ours is REV:GIG143. Unfortunately we didn't note the revision of the older sample down as it had to go back in a hurry.
Thanks for the reply!
Just checked mine, built in June 09 with Rev: GIG143, so that's good.
I did buy the monitor off the back of the Custom PC review and wondered why I didn't really notice any lag in TF2.
Cheers, Mike.
That's good info thanks. Being a die hard FPS fan I noticed the input lag straight away when I looked at it for CPC and sure enough it had about 30ms of it. This one felt different from the outset.
@SuperNova - the revision we've reviewed here is GIG143 stated as March 09. So long as you make sure you purchase a model with a manufacture date after this, we'd hope you'd end up with the more capable panel.
Also I have no idea how any "enthusiast" will say £400 is too much for a screen?! If you don't care about the image quality then sure you can just grab a £100 pile of utter ****, 400 is NOT much for a proper screen.
1st.
well, over here it's 440£
2nd.
I know, many car-enthousiasts think S-Class Mercedeces are sincreadibly great value for money....but I'm not buying one either. Are you?
Okay, so there are cheap panels out there, but noone test's them, because hey, they're not as good as a Dell 2408WFP / BenQ FP241W or this one.
Still that's no reason not to test one for the "budget-gamer" end of the market...
Screens like the Acer V243H bd, Asus VK246H / VW246H, LG Flatron W2442PA which all are said to have decent picture quality.
I have had 3 of these HP Lp2475w monitors and all of them were faulty, the first 2 had bugs in the fireware (GIG045), when I sent the first one back they never bothered to check the replacement for faults and it had exactly the same fault; I sent it back and got a refund and bought an NEC Multisync 24WMGX3. A couple of months later I bought another LP2475w (firmware GIG068), this time there was a pink/green tint on the screen, so sent it back and got a refund and bought a 2nd NEC 24WMGX3, my experience with the LP2475w has been lousy, to say the least, the HP quality control is dire! I have found the 24WMGX3 to be a better all round screen.
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Wow, great to see nice IPS panels being made with no input lag. I was lucky enough to get two 20" Dell 2007FPs before they were discontinued. They have at most 16 ms input lag, which is not noticeable. The 16ms response time is an issue but I've gotten used to it. The fantastic gamut and viewing angles have made it more than worth it. I'm glad to see an option that's even better.
Thank you for your answers! But... i was wondering about the rev on your last model (though i saw the post about you didn't know, after i had posted mine). I realize that the new one is GIG 143 but i was wondering about the last one as reference. I have heard that some of the newer models (143) did suffer more from the green/pink tint on the screens (thank the older ones). There is also one firmware that increases the inputlag quiet a bit (up to one _frame_ per second from what i have read).
To all of you who have this monitor MAKE SURE that you use the right ICC profile in firefox for example. it make a huge difference!
Originally Posted by Elton Time to grab this once I sell my current monitor, which I "think" is a PVA panel...
Anyone know if a W2607C is a PVA?
Frustatingly, the manufacturers often don't provide that detail in the specifications. However, I looked at an online manual, and it listed the viewing angles as +/- 85 degrees, which is a range of 170, so the W2607C might actually be a TN panel. However, even if your Dell is an IPS panel, the HP monitor in the review has a considerably higher native resolution (the W2607C is only 1366x768)
I must add, that I too was quite worried about the display after reading rivers of angry customers responses.
I do not comprehend how HP can afford themselves such behaviour.
After seeing that the complaints later subdued I decided to take the risk in the late spring of this year.
As as said before, the monitor is excruciatingly marvellous.
If there would be a similar product on the market the question would arise, whether to support such customer approach as HP demonstraded at the begining.
Originally Posted by Jipa IF you use the PC a lot, and IF you want a 24" screen for reasonable money. Get this.
That's my review of this screen. It's a pleasure to use.
Also I have no idea how any "enthusiast" will say £400 is too much for a screen?! If you don't care about the image quality then sure you can just grab a £100 pile of utter ****, 400 is NOT much for a proper screen.
I totally agree with you, i paid 685 pound (800 euro) for a ilijama 19" CRT back in the days.. So 400 is like half of that and its bigger....
"HP have kindly sent us their new LP2475W screen, using the latest H-IPS panel from LG.Display, the LM240WU4. On a quick note, HP list this screen as being S-IPS based on their website, but close inspection of the pixel structure reveals the pixel orientation to be vertical, and characteristic of the latest H-IPS generation."
I'm using a December 2008 LP2475W right now, and the pixel structure certainly doesn't look like S-IPS to me. I have always been told that ALL LP2475W's are H-IPS.
Don't get me wrong - there's a million reasons to push for a March/2009 or later LP2475W, but I'm not sure the risk of getting an S-IPS panel is one of them...
Originally Posted by Skakruk Are you quite sure about 'older' S-IPS Panels
From TFT CENTRAL review *September 2008*:
"HP have kindly sent us their new LP2475W screen, using the latest H-IPS panel from LG.Display, the LM240WU4. On a quick note, HP list this screen as being S-IPS based on their website, but close inspection of the pixel structure reveals the pixel orientation to be vertical, and characteristic of the latest H-IPS generation."
I'm using a December 2008 LP2475W right now, and the pixel structure certainly doesn't look like S-IPS to me. I have always been told that ALL LP2475W's are H-IPS.
Don't get me wrong - there's a million reasons to push for a March/2009 or later LP2475W, but I'm not sure the risk of getting an S-IPS panel is one of them...
That's fair enough. As we mentioned in the review, we were unable to find an exact cause for the improvements we found so we mainly recommened getting an up to date revision as our last sample suffered from noticable input lag and arainbow effect in text. The revision we have now does not.
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ReplyIt's either that or an OLED screen I am waiting for.
What happened to OLED screens by the way? Were they not supposed to be the big thing of 2009?
In regards to the lack of input lag of the new revision, what revision did you have on the model tested?
Thanks, Mike.
To be honest I'd still check the manufacture date - even HP still list it as S-IPS so the likelyhood is retailers might just copy and paste the specs - best to check.
Ours is REV:GIG143. Unfortunately we didn't note the revision of the older sample down as it had to go back in a hurry.
Thanks for the reply!
Just checked mine, built in June 09 with Rev: GIG143, so that's good.
I did buy the monitor off the back of the Custom PC review and wondered why I didn't really notice any lag in TF2.
Cheers, Mike.
That's my review of this screen. It's a pleasure to use.
Also I have no idea how any "enthusiast" will say £400 is too much for a screen?! If you don't care about the image quality then sure you can just grab a £100 pile of utter ****, 400 is NOT much for a proper screen.
At the back of the monitor, in the bottom left where all the manufacturer details are you'll have something labelled 'REV' and the one tested here is REV:GIG143.
That's good info thanks. Being a die hard FPS fan I noticed the input lag straight away when I looked at it for CPC and sure enough it had about 30ms of it. This one felt different from the outset.
@SuperNova - the revision we've reviewed here is GIG143 stated as March 09. So long as you make sure you purchase a model with a manufacture date after this, we'd hope you'd end up with the more capable panel.
1st.
well, over here it's 440£
2nd.
I know, many car-enthousiasts think S-Class Mercedeces are sincreadibly great value for money....but I'm not buying one either. Are you?
Okay, so there are cheap panels out there, but noone test's them, because hey, they're not as good as a Dell 2408WFP / BenQ FP241W or this one.
Still that's no reason not to test one for the "budget-gamer" end of the market...
Screens like the Acer V243H bd, Asus VK246H / VW246H, LG Flatron W2442PA which all are said to have decent picture quality.
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Park Royal 2 Condo Prathumnak
Anyone know if a W2607C is a PVA?
To all of you who have this monitor MAKE SURE that you use the right ICC profile in firefox for example. it make a huge difference!
Frustatingly, the manufacturers often don't provide that detail in the specifications. However, I looked at an online manual, and it listed the viewing angles as +/- 85 degrees, which is a range of 170, so the W2607C might actually be a TN panel. However, even if your Dell is an IPS panel, the HP monitor in the review has a considerably higher native resolution (the W2607C is only 1366x768)
You've got that.
I do not comprehend how HP can afford themselves such behaviour.
After seeing that the complaints later subdued I decided to take the risk in the late spring of this year.
As as said before, the monitor is excruciatingly marvellous.
If there would be a similar product on the market the question would arise, whether to support such customer approach as HP demonstraded at the begining.
I totally agree with you, i paid 685 pound (800 euro) for a ilijama 19" CRT back in the days.. So 400 is like half of that and its bigger....
From TFT CENTRAL review *September 2008*:
"HP have kindly sent us their new LP2475W screen, using the latest H-IPS panel from LG.Display, the LM240WU4. On a quick note, HP list this screen as being S-IPS based on their website, but close inspection of the pixel structure reveals the pixel orientation to be vertical, and characteristic of the latest H-IPS generation."
I'm using a December 2008 LP2475W right now, and the pixel structure certainly doesn't look like S-IPS to me. I have always been told that ALL LP2475W's are H-IPS.
Don't get me wrong - there's a million reasons to push for a March/2009 or later LP2475W, but I'm not sure the risk of getting an S-IPS panel is one of them...
Shall I buy or shall I wait until 120Hz 24" come out?
That's fair enough. As we mentioned in the review, we were unable to find an exact cause for the improvements we found so we mainly recommened getting an up to date revision as our last sample suffered from noticable input lag and arainbow effect in text. The revision we have now does not.
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