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HP LP2475w - 24in widescreen TFT review

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The boy 4rm oz 28th July 2009, 14:29 Quote
A very very nice monitor, it's actually on top of my list of monitors to consider, now that I have read the review I might just go out and buy it. Nice review guys.
[PUNK] crompers 28th July 2009, 14:31 Quote
been waiting for this review for a while!

I'm certainly looking into buying one of these, at first I was considering the (slightly cheaper) 2408WFP. But it looks like this blows the Dell out of the water and not for that much more.

I like the styling, like the idea of a H-IPS (always had TN) and i like this review! still umming and ahhing over the price though.
zr_ox 28th July 2009, 14:43 Quote
I'm another who is in the market for a new screen, the timing of this review is perfect.

The styling is awesome, industrial rock's! There are no draw backs to buying this screen since it handles everything so well.

Thanks BT
Er-El 28th July 2009, 14:51 Quote
Does it have the latest DisplayPort 1.2 (as opposed to 1.1) standard ports?
Krikkit 28th July 2009, 14:53 Quote
A beautiful monitor, nice simple design with good clean lines.

My only criticism is that you should be using a CRT for definitive input lag, rather than using a "low" input lag TFT. Then again, apples to oranges really - if you use the same monitor for all measurements it won't make any difference.

:D
Xir 28th July 2009, 15:16 Quote
...More than twice is not "stretching a little further" nor is it just a tad more
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Spending less than £200 for a monitor is usually a false economy as it's the component you spend more time interacting with than any other. Stretching your budget a little further

Anyone knows a 24"er that's maybe not perfect but okay for a budget?
roughrider 28th July 2009, 15:18 Quote
I bought this (I think, since of course it is posible I have the S-IPS) 28 days ago. I am extremely impressed. I have read reviewers of screens (usually TV's) saying a picture looks more '3D' - well for the first time I understand what they mean, since it can be so clear, looking a at good photo (or Crysis - which is pretty much all I have done with it) it is just a bit more like seeing the actual thing you are looking at the picture of.

For comparison I also have an 8th gen Pioneer Kuro (basically best TV ever) and although it is a bit apples & oranges the HP screen has it by a league.

I bought online from HP - I had to say I was a 'business customer' they do not sell direct to retail and I think I may not have full regular consumer protection (certainly there was quite a bit of T&C to get past).

I'm guessing mine is H-IPS since it is so good, and it was only ordered in June. But - I did get it the next day (i.e. it was in stock), there were hardly any available anywhere else in the country though, so either retailers don't stock it as it doesn't sell fast - or it sells so well it is hard to get hold of. I will be examining the edges of my black text on a white screen very carefully for rainbows...
Krikkit 28th July 2009, 15:19 Quote
Xir:
Samsung SM2443BW is a pretty nice monitor - it's a TN panel but a nice clean panel from a similar school as the HP reviewed here.
Xtrafresh 28th July 2009, 15:33 Quote
Great screen, glad to see these kind of things are still being made... Maybe one day i'll have budget for one more :D

A little heads-up though, you don't seem to be adhering to your own score guide, as this only scored a 9 (rounded up) and the guide stipulates a 10 is needed to get excellence. ;)
antaresIII 28th July 2009, 15:35 Quote
I have it (decision thanks to tftcentral.co.uk; HIGH prof. review) and I must say that you're not going to pose your eyes on an inferior panel tech after this one. The only thing that I miss: it takes ages for the monitor to display the signal after being turned on with the PC runing (it even writes no signal, goes to sleep and then finally displays); when I don't work with my PC I turn the monitor off leaving the PC running (and this many times).
Krikkit 28th July 2009, 15:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by antaresIII
decision thanks to tftcentral.co.uk

One of my favourite display review sites out there - the trouble is they're not big enough to do many reviews atm.
Bauul 28th July 2009, 15:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh
Great screen, glad to see these kind of things are still being made... Maybe one day i'll have budget for one more :D

A little heads-up though, you don't seem to be adhering to your own score guide, as this only scored a 9 (rounded up) and the guide stipulates a 10 is needed to get excellence. ;)

I've known the awards go to products outside of the required score. It's often to do with relativity: it IS an excellent monitor, but it's not quite 10/10 (still some input lag, high price etc.).

Ninja edit: Bit-Tech actually state they do this in the score guide:
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Originally Posted by Score Guide, "9
Products given a score of nine are awarded the bit-tech Recommended Award by the Editor. In some rare situations, the Editor may choose to upgrade the product to 'Excellence' status if it was very close to receiving an overall score of ten.

On topic though: looks really lovely. It's nice to see companies produce simple products that just work well as opposed to crappy ones with stupid suedo-technologies that don't add anything to the product.
Seraphim Works 28th July 2009, 15:40 Quote
Oddness that there's no mention of the component in connection on the spec list.
How does it cope with 16:9 content over the component and s-video, does it keep it at the correct aspect ratio, or stretch it like my Samsung 215TW?
thEcat 28th July 2009, 16:00 Quote
I bought the early revision a little less than a year ago, after all...
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it's vital to remember this isn't a graphics card or CPU that will be so out of date in a year's time

:P

the wide gamut of the original still bites the eyes on the odd occasions and in common with all LCDs the contrast simply cannot compare with my old CRT. That said I've not seen another LCD I'd swap it for, add in 3 year HP Business warranty and an extra 2 years for £15 and it becomes a no brainer imo.

What is the colour gamut of the new revision btw ?
How does it perform in sRGB mode ?
ClearType was a bit of a problem with the original, when evaluating text quality did you have ClearType enabled ? I'm curious as ClearType always leaves a coloured fringe, that's how it works.
StephenK 28th July 2009, 16:01 Quote
Looks like it deserved it's place in the What Hardware Should I Buy section then. Thanks for the review guys, now I just have to squirrel away the money for one :)
mauvecloud 28th July 2009, 16:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by Seraphim Works
Oddness that there's no mention of the component in connection on the spec list.
How does it cope with 16:9 content over the component and s-video, does it keep it at the correct aspect ratio, or stretch it like my Samsung 215TW?

There's also a composite input shown in the picture on the second page, but I don't see the D-Sub. I'm curious what 16:9 content you'd be sending over s-video - I thought sources that had s-video output but not component would be 4:3.
Combatus 28th July 2009, 16:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by mauvecloud
There's also a composite input shown in the picture on the second page, but I don't see the D-Sub. I'm curious what 16:9 content you'd be sending over s-video - I thought sources that had s-video output but not component would be 4:3.


Well spotted, it doesn't have a D-SUB. Looks like we imagined it having one!
thEcat 28th July 2009, 16:28 Quote
D-SUB

The original shipped with a special D-SUB to DVI cable, basically just a breakout cable for the analogue signals.
knuck 28th July 2009, 16:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by
must....not... troll...

monitor...only...60hz

I gave a mission to myself ; to spread the word or how superior 120hz LCDs are :D
Combatus 28th July 2009, 16:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by thEcat
I bought the early revision a little less than a year ago, after all...
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it's vital to remember this isn't a graphics card or CPU that will be so out of date in a year's time

:P

the wide gamut of the original still bites the eyes on the odd occasions and in common with all LCDs the contrast simply cannot compare with my old CRT. That said I've not seen another LCD I'd swap it for, add in 3 year HP Business warranty and an extra 2 years for £15 and it becomes a no brainer imo.

What is the colour gamut of the new revision btw ?
How does it perform in sRGB mode ?
ClearType was a bit of a problem with the original, when evaluating text quality did you have ClearType enabled ? I'm curious as ClearType always leaves a coloured fringe, that's how it works.

AFAIK the colour gamut is the same so 92% - there are no new specs for this supposed new revision, we're merely going on our findings from our usual tests.
When switching to sRGB the colours and brightness are noticably diminished but the main effect is a creamy tinge - not horrendous but pretty bad compared to a few mins spent tweaking yourself.
Cleartype is enabled and the fringing is much improved as far as we can see. There's still some evidence depending how you've set it up, but compared to the previous example we looked at in CPC a few months ago, there's no comparison.
thEcat 28th July 2009, 17:07 Quote
@Combatus,

Thanks for that, these are the issues I've seen asked about time and time again
[PUNK] crompers 28th July 2009, 17:12 Quote
nearly everywhere recommends you put the monitor into custom colour mode and configure it yourself rather than try and use the presets.

i defo want one of these things badly! waiting on the student loan..........
lewchenko 28th July 2009, 17:17 Quote
I considered this monitor recently but decided on the NEC 24 LCD2490WUXi2 instead.

http://www.pcbuyit.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=686

Yes it costs a bit more, but it looks beautiful compared with the HP (the stand especially), but also because in my research I found too many people complaining about about the HP model you reviewed - whether the units failed / or poor customer support / made squeeling noises etc ! Whilst I found the opposite when researching the NEC models... plus the NEC has a better panel ** which you are paying extra for **

Anyways.. it has arrived and its the most beautiful screen Ive seen. I also have an iMac 24" which also has a beautiful screen as well and can definitely recommend spending extra on such screens.

My previous screen was a Dell WFP 2407 PVA model which was quite frankly rubbish in comparison the either the iMac's screen or the new NEC.... You just dont know how bad until you see the newer models next to it ! Let alone the Samsung TN 22" panel I have upstairs on a spare machine.
Combatus 28th July 2009, 17:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by thEcat
@Combatus,

Thanks for that, these are the issues I've seen asked about time and time again

No problem!
Xtrafresh 28th July 2009, 17:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul
I've known the awards go to products outside of the required score. It's often to do with relativity: it IS an excellent monitor, but it's not quite 10/10 (still some input lag, high price etc.).

Ninja edit: Bit-Tech actually state they do this in the score guide:
Well, the point is that it's not really close to getting 10/10, in fact, the 9 it gets is rounded up, the exact score it got was 8,67. If that's really close to 10/10, i need to go do another report card collection round with my grandparents :D

Really though, i'm just nitpicking ;)
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