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NEC MultiSync P221W - 22in widescreen LCD

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Bauul 15th April 2009, 10:01 Quote
Still the nicest monitor I ever owned was a Hercules Prophet 900. 1024x768 beauty. Cresent stand, light blue bevel, 100% alluminium body. Weighed nothing and you could take a hammer to it and it wouldn't dint. Lovely bit of kit. My replacement 1440x900 LG, whilst obviously is much nicer to use, feels like it's made out of paper in comparison.
[USRF]Obiwan 15th April 2009, 10:44 Quote
Finally a non TN panel review, after all those 'been there done that' reviews. Cant wait for the HP screen review and comparisons...
azrael- 15th April 2009, 11:56 Quote
I cannot believe you guys haven't had a Dell UltraSharp 2209WA in for a review yet. It's 22" e-IPS goodness, albeit at 1680x1050. Image quality rocks, it comes with pivot (although without the necessary software) and it can be had dirtcheap (around £200 at OcUK).
Veles 15th April 2009, 12:00 Quote
I think I'll take a TN panel at 1/3 of the price thanks :p
Jipa 15th April 2009, 12:37 Quote
Too little, too late... Or actually, too much and too late. I mean real image-editing pros aside, who's going to be happy to pay over £400 for a 1680x1050 22" screen? I'm all in for image quality, and would never buy a TN screen (for the primary screen anyway), but even for me this just seems... Kinda bad.
djDEATH 15th April 2009, 13:15 Quote
says DVI and VGA - but do i spy an S-Video port on the back too???
tzang 15th April 2009, 13:52 Quote
NEC LCD monitors are brilliant, especially on their current 24"+ models but this 22" just doesn't seem right. Putting a S-PVA panel on a market already littered with 24" S-PVA panels that are cheaper and has more inputs or functionality simply makes no sense (Dell, Dell and Dell springs to mind).
As already addressed in the review, the S-PVA panel with overdrive has always been a concern and became quite a serious issue for Dell when they released the Dell 2407WFP-HC and later offered a full refund to customers due to the huge number of complaints (although I kept mine until I switched to a different 24" when I couldn't take it anymore). At this sort of price, I really can't see why NEC opted for this panel.
And I can't see why anyone would buy this monitor when they could get a more reasonable 24" (on a 16:10 ratio) monitor for a similar price... better yet, forget the HP LP2275W, the HP LP2475W with a S-IPS panel can be had for cheaper and is a far better monitor.
DorkSterr 15th April 2009, 13:59 Quote
I really wanna get the 30" version.
Tim S 15th April 2009, 14:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by djDEATH
says DVI and VGA - but do i spy an S-Video port on the back too???

yep, sorry... that was my mistake during the final edit. I've made the corrections to the text and spec summary.
Turbotab 15th April 2009, 14:45 Quote
When will OLED monitors start to make an appearance?
Jerz 15th April 2009, 17:21 Quote
In about one-two years with two at least before they are reasonably priced would be my guess.
Jerz 15th April 2009, 17:40 Quote
Thinking about OLEDs, I think it would be awesome to see bit-tech do a review on the tech with that 11" sony OLED that is out.
Xir 15th April 2009, 20:13 Quote
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what this monitor really needs is a 1,920 x 1,200 native resolution
...so it should have been a 24"er for a smaller price...

Come on Bit-tech, I know you like monitors with snall pixeldistances, but ...when do we get a test or comparison of affordable 24"ers?
Seraphim Works 15th April 2009, 20:14 Quote
*hugs Samsung 215TW*

If only I had the money for a 30" monitor...
FeRaL 15th April 2009, 20:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
I think I'll take a TN panel at 1/3 of the price thanks :p
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Originally Posted by Jipa
Too little, too late... Or actually, too much and too late. I mean real image-editing pros aside, who's going to be happy to pay over £400 for a 1680x1050 22" screen? I'm all in for image quality, and would never buy a TN screen (for the primary screen anyway), but even for me this just seems... Kinda bad.
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Originally Posted by djDEATH
says DVI and VGA - but do i spy an S-Video port on the back too???
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Originally Posted by tzang
NEC LCD monitors are brilliant, especially on their current 24"+ models but this 22" just doesn't seem right. Putting a S-PVA panel on a market already littered with 24" S-PVA panels that are cheaper and has more inputs or functionality simply makes no sense (Dell, Dell and Dell springs to mind).
As already addressed in the review, the S-PVA panel with overdrive has always been a concern and became quite a serious issue for Dell when they released the Dell 2407WFP-HC and later offered a full refund to customers due to the huge number of complaints (although I kept mine until I switched to a different 24" when I couldn't take it anymore). At this sort of price, I really can't see why NEC opted for this panel.
And I can't see why anyone would buy this monitor when they could get a more reasonable 24" (on a 16:10 ratio) monitor for a similar price... better yet, forget the HP LP2275W, the HP LP2475W with a S-IPS panel can be had for cheaper and is a far better monitor.

I'd have to agree will all of you. To me it looks like Marketing and the bean counters had more input into the making of this product than say the product design/engineering team did... Who the frak is going to use s-video these days, or VGA for that matter? This product is all buck and no bang.

I picked up a Samsung h2693 a few months back for $350 on-sale at Best Buy because they weren't selling. Apparently, 26" is too big for some peoples desks, not mine though. While not a "perfect monitor" it does what I need it to do and more.
hikibofori 16th April 2009, 12:16 Quote
"Sadly, therefore, the quest for the perfect 22 incher continues."

Lenovo L220x is the answer. A perfect one (at least for me).
S-PVA, 1920x1200, 92% color gamut, 178 angle.
[USRF]Obiwan 16th April 2009, 12:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by hikibofori
"Sadly, therefore, the quest for the perfect 22 incher continues."

Lenovo L220x is the answer. A perfect one (at least for me).
S-PVA, 1920x1200, 92% color gamut, 178 angle.

I read good reviews of this monitor and it cost around 600 euro's atm.
azrael- 16th April 2009, 13:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by hikibofori
"Sadly, therefore, the quest for the perfect 22 incher continues."

Lenovo L220x is the answer. A perfect one (at least for me).
S-PVA, 1920x1200, 92% color gamut, 178 angle.

Image quality-wise the Dell 2209WA blows the Lenovo L220x out of the water. The only "downside" is its slightly lower resolution of 1680x1050.
hikibofori 16th April 2009, 22:11 Quote
I read good reviews of this monitor and it cost around 600 euro's atm.[/QUOTE]

You can find at ~400 euros
http://geizhals.at/eu/a291194.html
Xir 17th April 2009, 09:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by hikibofori

You can find at ~400 euros

And I'd still rather buy a 24"er for this resolution instead...especially as they are cheaper.
Slyr7.62 18th April 2009, 04:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
I think I'll take a TN panel at 1/3 of the price thanks :p
This is but one of the posts I have to agree with and give a "+1". Besides the fact my primary monitor(a CRT) is 19", I am a bit spoiled by it being a NEC with a (Sony) Trinitron tube :D. I'd just like a bigger primary monitor, that's why I mainly have my eye on the $170-something 22" Acer. Plus, I game so the TN panel may be "good" for me :P. Well, the price helps. I will never pay over $350 for a 19 or 22" monitor because that's what my "old" Viewsonic G90F was brand new.
azrael- 18th April 2009, 11:16 Quote
I find it striking that evidently everyone seems to ignore the Dell Ultrasharp 2209WA (specs). Yes, you can have your cake and eat it too.
[USRF]Obiwan 20th April 2009, 08:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by Slyr7.62
I will never pay over $350 for a 19 or 22" monitor because that's what my "old" Viewsonic G90F was brand new.

So you did pay over $350 for a monitor then :D

In the yesteryears I have payed 700 euro for a 19" Illyama CRT screen, right now I can have a 30" LCD screen or two 24" Dell Truecolour E248WFP LCD screens. So actually you get more for the same money you have spend on your old CRT.
Pygo 22nd April 2009, 03:42 Quote
I've got the 26" version of that beast, and it came with a calibration device. LCD2690WUXI-bk. I really want to get a few more (ok 5, for a six display setup), but I can't afford that. So I'll just use this as the main screen, and four Dell 24 inchers for the sides, and my old 22" for the top middle. (All in due time due to lack of funds.)

LOVE this monitor. But quite pricey, at around $1200 Canadian. Similar specs, though I believe it's 400CDm2 brightness and 4ms g-to-g. I can also set the display for sRGB or aRGB colour mode, as well as two different B&W modes. And to top it all off, I can change the ugly bloo power led to green, as well as adjust the brightness, all on the OSD. Best monitor I've ever purchased.

Oh, and as far as a a higher resolution at 22", 1920x1200 will be pretty bad. I don't have bad vision at all, 15:20 assisted. And I do love having a higher resolution. The main thing is eye-strain. The super high 1080p+ resolutions on a small screens for long periods will strain your eyes, much like crappy speakers/mix will hurt your ears over time. Thus, 26" it was instead of the 24" version for me.

The other thing you get is quality. These are medical/studio grade displays. TV shows (afraid I can't mention names) use these displays. I wouldn't be surprised if studios that produce feature length films use these displays, but you can always pay more. The ones those studio use cost around $3500 and upwards. These displays are really just entry level, much like my Beringer B2031A are entry level studio monitors. But still work great for the cost, especially compared to similarly performing/lasting products.

Oh, and as far as warranty goes, my display has a class 1, 4 year warranty (no dead pixels, nex business day whole new unit shipped, and I pay for shipping of the broken unit back.) Pretty awesome if you ask me. Oh, and it supports HDCP too, as well as a bunch of other features.

The only two downsides to this monitor, in order of importance are: 1) Cost!!!, and 2) input lag, though not very much. Only a little apparent in games, and fully correctable for watching movies.
sako 28th December 2010, 03:38 Quote
Some of you guys just don't get it. This monitor is made for serious photo editing and graphics work where the really important criteria is image qualty and faithful colour reproduction that you'll never get with the mass produced TN monitors and more than a few S-PVA ones as well. Also to get the best out of this monitor you really need SpectraView II Calibration Software .
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