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BenQ E2400HD - 24" Full HD Monitor

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kenco_uk 10th March 2009, 14:36 Quote
Is this a fix so that PC games released in 'widescreen' format won't cause a furore in future (ala Bioshock)?
Bauul 10th March 2009, 14:41 Quote
Or more realistically having two competiting widescreen formats made little industry sense.
Goty 10th March 2009, 15:04 Quote
You mention the better pixel pitch of this monitor in comparison to 16:10 monitors, but it actually has a higher pixel pitch than my 16:10 Gateway FHD2400 (0.276mm vs 0.27mm). There's no reason that the pixel pitch should be any smaller just because of the aspect ratio, either. You're essentially fitting 90% of the pixels on a screen that's 95% the size of a 16:10 monitor.
Jenny_Y8S 10th March 2009, 15:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tim S
we haven't looked at a 24-incher until today. Read on to find out how BenQ's E2400HD shapes up.

The BenQ FP241W 24" has been in your "what to buy" guide for month after month, but you'd never looked at it?

So what was this?

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/monitors/2006/11/07/Benq_FP241W/1

Edit: Or do you mean only 24" 1920x1080 screens?
Bauul 10th March 2009, 15:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jenny_Y8S
The BenQ FP241W 24" has been in your "what to buy" guide for month after month, but you'd never looked at it?

So what was this?

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/monitors/2006/11/07/Benq_FP241W/1

Edit: Or do you mean only 24" 1920x1080 screens?

Actually Tim was just referring to the fact I popped by the office and my trousers fell down.
Veles 10th March 2009, 16:10 Quote
I'd be better off with the Viewsonic you reviewed a few months ago then?
FeRaL 10th March 2009, 16:35 Quote
Meh... Looks like shat compared to what one would expect from BenQ... I guess it's a sign of the times. 1080 vs. 1200? 1200 all the way.
[USRF]Obiwan 10th March 2009, 17:11 Quote
No matter how may TN panels you are going to review, preview or throw of a roof. The outcome is always the same, its still a TN panel . I really want to see the other 'better' stuff thats around that is not based on a TN panel. review a Full HD 42" plasma as computer screen whatever. That will be much more interessting read then all those TN panels combined...
Spiny 10th March 2009, 17:29 Quote
I'm upgrading from a 20 inch soon, but what sort of graphics card do you need to game at 19xx * 12xx ? Will a 4850 cut it or are you into 4870 territory?

It would make quite an interesting article....hint! :)
chrisb2e9 10th March 2009, 17:50 Quote
I run my 4850 displayed on a 24inch 1920x1080 (the viewsonic that bit reviewd not too long ago)
I cant max out the details on crysis but it comes pretty close. close enough that the game still looks good. Mass effect, maxed out. what else.. cant remember.
anyway, a 4850 will do, a 4870 would be spot on. in my opinion anyway.
kenco_uk 10th March 2009, 17:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
No matter how may TN panels you are going to review, preview or throw of a roof. The outcome is always the same, its still a TN panel . I really want to see the other 'better' stuff thats around that is not based on a TN panel. review a Full HD 42" plasma as computer screen whatever. That will be much more interessting read then all those TN panels combined...

Yeah, I'd love to see a LOT more IPS or PA panels reviewed. It's getting a bit boring looking at the specs and discovering that it's yet another TN panel bit have reviewed.

1920x1200 - GTX260 cuts the mustard. Only game I have to trim down is Crysis.
djDEATH 10th March 2009, 18:11 Quote
read somewhere that Dell are producing some 23" 16:9 panels that use a 2048x1152 resolution, so an even higher dot pitch than current 16:10 24" inchers and a clear bost over pretty much anything available at the moment short of 30" screens.

I'm gonna wait for one of those, especially as my S-IPS dell 2007WFP is just awesome for everything, unless i get a significant amount of extra real estate then the loss of image quality going back to TN+Film just isn't worth it.

my 19" Samsung TN+Film has been relegated to the kitchen, it RUINS my desk when placed next to the S-IPS Dell.
Nicb 10th March 2009, 18:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
No matter how may TN panels you are going to review, preview or throw of a roof. The outcome is always the same, its still a TN panel . I really want to see the other 'better' stuff thats around that is not based on a TN panel. review a Full HD 42" plasma as computer screen whatever. That will be much more interessting read then all those TN panels combined...

Yeah, I'd love to see a LOT more IPS or PA panels reviewed. It's getting a bit boring looking at the specs and discovering that it's yet another TN panel bit have reviewed.

1920x1200 - GTX260 cuts the mustard. Only game I have to trim down is Crysis.

I have to add on to this as well. My friends and I are not rich, but even so we stay away from TN panels. I might be wrong but I believe the members of this site do the same. We already know the maximum potential for TN screens, there is never a pleasing surprise. TN's reviews are either barely tolerable or absolute crap. But there are things we can learn from the higher quality monitors. If its 50 to a 100 more for a better monitor we just save up for it longer because we understand the value in doing so. Lets have some reviews on monitors that are quality. Why not, we have reviews on $500 to $600 video cards.
Jamie 10th March 2009, 18:53 Quote
Nice fingerprints on the images.

The stand on this monitor looks rubbish, only tilt adjustment is pretty dire.
FeRaL 10th March 2009, 20:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
No matter how may TN panels you are going to review, preview or throw of a roof. The outcome is always the same, its still a TN panel . I really want to see the other 'better' stuff thats around that is not based on a TN panel. review a Full HD 42" plasma as computer screen whatever. That will be much more interessting read then all those TN panels combined...

Yeah, I'd love to see a LOT more IPS or PA panels reviewed. It's getting a bit boring looking at the specs and discovering that it's yet another TN panel bit have reviewed.

1920x1200 - GTX260 cuts the mustard. Only game I have to trim down is Crysis.

I have to add on to this as well. My friends and I are not rich, but even so we stay away from TN panels. I might be wrong but I believe the members of this site do the same. We already know the maximum potential for TN screens, there is never a pleasing surprise. TN's reviews are either barely tolerable or absolute crap. But there are things we can learn from the higher quality monitors. If its 50 to a 100 more for a better monitor we just save up for it longer because we understand the value in doing so. Lets have some reviews on monitors that are quality. Why not, we have reviews on $500 to $600 video cards.

I'm married, therefore I = TN.... 8( Wife does not see the benefits of non TN panel... 8( Hell even spending $400 USD which wasn't even mine on a Samsung 2693 caught me some flack. It's a TN panel but it does what I need it do to and that is have multiple windows open to compare code etc...
Tim S 10th March 2009, 20:24 Quote
We've got a 22in SPVA screen with a 10-bit LUT on the bench next... we're certainly hoping that's going to be a bit more fun to review :)

I'm looking to source more *VA/IPS displays, but it's proving more and more difficult without getting very big
logan'srun 10th March 2009, 21:16 Quote
big meaning bigger than 24in??
aron311 10th March 2009, 22:04 Quote
BenQ FP241W FTW.
glenster 10th March 2009, 23:55 Quote
Please review the LG W2486L.
kenco_uk 11th March 2009, 01:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tim S
We've got a 22in SPVA screen with a 10-bit LUT on the bench next... we're certainly hoping that's going to be a bit more fun to review :)

That's damn good to hear! :)
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I'm looking to source more *VA/IPS displays, but it's proving more and more difficult without getting very big

How do you mean, Tim? Big as in display size or big as in size of bit-tech? :?
The boy 4rm oz 11th March 2009, 07:51 Quote
I was seriously considering getting this monitor, now I may reconsider. For around the same price ($400AUD) the Dell 8bit 24" from my cousins boyfriend looks much more inviting.
LanMare 11th March 2009, 10:30 Quote
I have been looking for a panel with resolution good enough for programming (min 2048 horizontal), with mount pivot rotation, and with contrast/colors good enough, for professional photography, IPS/PVA given that TN panels never fullfill these needs, im willing to pay up to max. 999£. Thanks tim for stepping up and trying to find more IPS/PVA sources because i subscribe as well what the users above said about "few monitor reviews and they are all TN panels" . Thanks
bogie170 11th March 2009, 14:44 Quote
I'm still looking for the perfect 24" panel and I still have not found it. The last one I had was the Dell 2408 but it had awful lag on fps games so it og t returned.

When oh when will the perfect 24" be here?
caboosemoose 12th March 2009, 12:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Goty
You mention the better pixel pitch of this monitor in comparison to 16:10 monitors, but it actually has a higher pixel pitch than my 16:10 Gateway FHD2400 (0.276mm vs 0.27mm). There's no reason that the pixel pitch should be any smaller just because of the aspect ratio, either. You're essentially fitting 90% of the pixels on a screen that's 95% the size of a 16:10 monitor.

We're looking into this currently. There are a couple of anomalies with the pixel pitches quoted by BenQ for their 16:9 and 16:10 24-inchers.
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
No matter how may TN panels you are going to review, preview or throw of a roof. The outcome is always the same, its still a TN panel . I really want to see the other 'better' stuff thats around that is not based on a TN panel. review a Full HD 42" plasma as computer screen whatever. That will be much more interessting read then all those TN panels combined...

You'll be pleased to hear that our next three panels with be a mix of IPS and PVA in 22 and 24-inch.
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