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NEC AccuSync LCD24WMCX 24" widescreen

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DXR_13KE 15th April 2008, 10:49 Quote
shame there are no cheaper screens with better technology, someday cheaper oled technology will make this happen, the interesting thing about this sucker is the amount of inputs..... it has more inputs than a French prostitute....
Xtrafresh 15th April 2008, 11:07 Quote
Great review, very usefull for me! I'm in the market for a screen just like this. I am that gamer/moviewatcher that never edits a picture :p
I'm kinda missing the direct compare with some of it's competitors though, and i'd like some info on that :)
Sadly, this one is right there at the top end of my budget, and i'm eyeing the cheaper alternatives. Which ones should i look at and/or stay away from?

In particular i'm watching these screens:
  • Acer AL2416WB
  • Acer P241W
  • BenQ2400W
  • Illama E2403WS-B1
  • Samsung Synchmaster 245BW

Who has experience with any of those? Should i avoid it/buy it? I'm also very tempted somehow to save up and get this NEC, is that worth the extra?

cheers!
Woodstock 15th April 2008, 11:39 Quote
o noooo not another monitor to confuse me :(
kenco_uk 15th April 2008, 12:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh
Great review, very usefull for me! I'm in the market for a screen just like this. I am that gamer/moviewatcher that never edits a picture :p
I'm kinda missing the direct compare with some of it's competitors though, and i'd like some info on that :)
Sadly, this one is right there at the top end of my budget, and i'm eyeing the cheaper alternatives. Which ones should i look at and/or stay away from?

In particular i'm watching these screens:
  • Acer AL2416WB
  • Acer P241W
  • BenQ2400WA
  • Illama E2403WS-B1
  • Samsung Synchmaster 245BW

Who has experience with any of those? Should i avoid it/buy it? I'm also very tempted somehow to save up and get this NEC, is that worth the extra?

cheers!

Add this one to your list - P-MVA panel (180 degree h/v view), 800:1 contrast, 300cdm2 brightness, 6ms grey2grey, HDCP DVI, VGA, 8-bit (as opposed to 6-bit + dithering on TN). Pretty amazing for the price, imho. Other places that have it in stock sometimes are Tekheads, Aria and Misco. The AUO panel used in this is used in 24" monitors costing at least twice the price!
DXR_13KE 15th April 2008, 12:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh
Great review, very usefull for me! I'm in the market for a screen just like this. I am that gamer/moviewatcher that never edits a picture :p
I'm kinda missing the direct compare with some of it's competitors though, and i'd like some info on that :)
Sadly, this one is right there at the top end of my budget, and i'm eyeing the cheaper alternatives. Which ones should i look at and/or stay away from?

In particular i'm watching these screens:
  • Acer AL2416WB
  • Acer P241W
  • BenQ2400WA
  • Illama E2403WS-B1
  • Samsung Synchmaster 245BW

Who has experience with any of those? Should i avoid it/buy it? I'm also very tempted somehow to save up and get this NEC, is that worth the extra?

cheers!

Add this one to your list - P-MVA panel (180 degree h/v view), 800:1 contrast, 300cdm2 brightness, 6ms grey2grey, HDCP DVI, VGA, 8-bit (as opposed to 6-bit + dithering on TN). Pretty amazing for the price, imho. Other places that have it in stock sometimes are Tekheads, Aria and Misco. The AUO panel used in this is used in 24" monitors costing at least twice the price!

i am very doubtful of the quality of that screen.....
Woodstock 15th April 2008, 12:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
Add this one to your list - P-MVA panel (180 degree h/v view), 800:1 contrast, 300cdm2 brightness, 6ms grey2grey, HDCP DVI, VGA, 8-bit (as opposed to 6-bit + dithering on TN). Pretty amazing for the price, imho. Other places that have it in stock sometimes are Tekheads, Aria and Misco. The AUO panel used in this is used in 24" monitors costing at least twice the price!

i some how doubt that screen will become availble in NZ
badders 15th April 2008, 12:22 Quote
DXR - Kenco's already got it, and he loooooves it.

Xtrafresh, you've marked the BenQ G2400WA there - that's the analogue only version.
I've got the G2400W - VGA, DVI and HDMI, and it's great - a really nice screen, and an even better price!
kenco_uk 15th April 2008, 12:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
i am very doubtful of the quality of that screen.....

Why? It's the exact panel as used in LG's, Samsungs that are twice the cost of this one. Basically, if you want more inputs, pay twice as much. If you want a different stand, pay twice as much. If you want a logo on the front that says Samsung or LG, pay twice as much. If you want a different surround around the screen, pay twice as much.

Do you see a pattern forming? Sorry to sound blunt, but this (at the moment) is a bloody bargain!

It's the exact same screen. I forget the model number, but it's an AUO 24" V3.

Yes, it's a make no-one's ever heard of. But there are other companies (which you or I have never heard of) that are making clones of THIS monitor! And then putting TN panels in!!

Yuraku ONLY use P-MVA panels for this monitor (atm, anyway).

You can tell I'm a bit pleased with mine!
kenco_uk 15th April 2008, 12:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Woodstock
i some how doubt that screen will become availble in NZ

Dunno, they're a Singaporean company.
Woodstock 15th April 2008, 12:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
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Originally Posted by Woodstock
i some how doubt that screen will become availble in NZ

Dunno, they're a Singaporean company.

the company seems to be a lot smaller then most other monitor makers, and we dont get their full range, were just too small to really matter
ch424 15th April 2008, 12:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
Add this one to your list - P-MVA panel (180 degree h/v view), 800:1 contrast, 300cdm2 brightness, 6ms grey2grey, HDCP DVI, VGA, 8-bit (as opposed to 6-bit + dithering on TN). Pretty amazing for the price, imho. Other places that have it in stock sometimes are Tekheads, Aria and Misco. The AUO panel used in this is used in 24" monitors costing at least twice the price!
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DVI No
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Connector VGA (D-Sub), and Audio IN

Does it have DVI or not? I know I can tell when monitors are in DVI or analogue mode.
Xtrafresh 15th April 2008, 12:58 Quote
baleeeted! sorry for doublepost :o
Xtrafresh 15th April 2008, 13:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by ch424
Does it have DVI or not? I know I can tell when monitors are in DVI or analogue mode.
i have the same doubt. I found that monitor at a german e-bay shop that's close enough for me to hop by, but they list the monitor as VGA only, which is unacceptable for me. Otherwise i'm really up for that deal, i already spotted it in the bargain thread you made for it
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Originally Posted by badders
DXR - Kenco's already got it, and he loooooves it.

Xtrafresh, you've marked the BenQ G2400WA there - that's the analogue only version.
I've got the G2400W - VGA, DVI and HDMI, and it's great - a really nice screen, and an even better price!
aha, good point, edited :D
ch424 15th April 2008, 13:03 Quote
Manufacturer's website says it does have DVI, on their spec page
Also, google product search for Yuraku YV24WBH1 shows "DVI" in a lot of the product titles.

hrmmmm... will have to wait and see what kenco says!
kenco_uk 15th April 2008, 13:32 Quote
Yup, has DVI, with HDCP. Even comes with a dvi to hdmi lead in the box.
Xtrafresh 15th April 2008, 13:49 Quote
kenco, joo da man! You just made a crazy dutch guy prepare to drive 400 km to get one (i don't trust carriers)
kenco_uk 15th April 2008, 14:02 Quote
Just make sure it definitely is Yuraku and not a clone though. I forget what the clone names are, but there's a thread on oc3d forums about it and they tend to have TN panels in them as opposed to Yuraku's P-MVA.

btw, 400kms?! Make sure you take your passport!

edit - just found three of the clones' names: Digimate/Novita/Iolair.. there are apparently more, though. [source]

Played a lot of WiC over the weekend and it's amazing at high res, and the monitor being as big as it is, blocks a further amount of peripheral vision so enveloping you in the action.

Xtrafresh - This link any good to you?
Xtrafresh 15th April 2008, 14:08 Quote
wow, looks like the monitor market is a maze... article anyone? :D

Novita is a pretty big monitor manufacturer, they even sponsor NEC, a dutch soccer club from the "eredivisie" (premier league for english).

I found the monitor in a german webshop: http://www.abtron.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=11_60&products_id=15982
€285,90 ! That's a total steal!
DXR_13KE 15th April 2008, 14:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
Why? It's the exact panel as used in LG's, Samsungs that are twice the cost of this one. Basically, if you want more inputs, pay twice as much. If you want a different stand, pay twice as much. If you want a logo on the front that says Samsung or LG, pay twice as much. If you want a different surround around the screen, pay twice as much.

Do you see a pattern forming? Sorry to sound blunt, but this (at the moment) is a bloody bargain!

It's the exact same screen. I forget the model number, but it's an AUO 24" V3.

Yes, it's a make no-one's ever heard of. But there are other companies (which you or I have never heard of) that are making clones of THIS monitor! And then putting TN panels in!!

Yuraku ONLY use P-MVA panels for this monitor (atm, anyway).

You can tell I'm a bit pleased with mine!

interesting..... most of the cheap screens we get here are tons of crap compared to the ones with the label on them....
vaderag 15th April 2008, 14:29 Quote
Doesn't look as good as the Hyundai you reviewed recently...
Still looking for a good value 26" with Component and HDMI
[USRF]Obiwan 15th April 2008, 14:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh
wow, looks like the monitor market is a maze... article anyone? :D

Novita is a pretty big monitor manufacturer, they even sponsor NEC, a dutch soccer club from the "eredivisie" (premier league for english).

I found the monitor in a german webshop: http://www.abtron.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=11_60&products_id=15982
€285,90 ! That's a total steal!


no 400km drive but i little more expensive:
hierzo
Xtrafresh 15th April 2008, 15:04 Quote
Thx for the link. I did a little google searching myself and found the same link after my post.

I'm still going to drive though, the company fills the car up, and it'll be a nice daytrip :D
kenco_uk 15th April 2008, 15:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by article

... – they're a little more forgiving when it comes to image quality and they're prepared to take a few drawbacks if it cuts the price.

I'm bloomin' well not :)


Page 2 - para 7 - 'connections is superb though and it there are enough options available' - remove 'it'
Tim S 15th April 2008, 15:20 Quote
Some are, some aren't - I'm the latter as well. But there's no denying that the rise of cheap 22in monitors is an example of this move happening (I don't agree with it, but volumes speak for themselves I guess :().
Xtrafresh 15th April 2008, 15:29 Quote
It's very much a bang-for-buck question. I could spend €800 or i can spend €400, and in both cases i have a good 24" monitor. Ofcourse the 800 one is better, but not that much better for me.

It's like making dinner for my sister-in-law... there's just no point in serving a fine surloin steak. As long as there's abundant BBQ and garlic sauce, she's happy. For a master chef (such as yourself) this is not acceptable.
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