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Benq FP241W 24" widescreen monitor

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DougEdey 7th November 2006, 13:27 Quote
When are these beauties out?
Cthippo 7th November 2006, 13:31 Quote
My question as well. None on eBay
DougEdey 7th November 2006, 13:33 Quote
I found one place which has an ETA on stock of 2 weeks, and a price of £610 :D
antiHero 7th November 2006, 13:48 Quote
Nice piece of kit, but just to far out of my price class. I think 20" is the way to go for me.
kosch 7th November 2006, 14:02 Quote
Doh! I only just bought a dell 24" 2nd gen for £530 last month.

now if I can just fine one of my friends who needs a larger monitor!!
mikeuk2004 7th November 2006, 14:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by DougEdey
I found one place which has an ETA on stock of 2 weeks, and a price of £610 :D

Where is that??? I seen it on Overclockers for £669.74 which is the cheapest ive seen it.

It looks nice. But abit pricey when 19" can be had now under £150 :(
mikeuk2004 7th November 2006, 14:31 Quote
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DO NOT GET THIS MONITOR. well, at least if you intend on watching a lot of movies or playing console games. there is NO way that this monitor can do 1:1 pixel mapping, which is a problem because it is 16:10 aspect ratio as opposed to normal movie widescree 16:9. this means anything that is not coming from your computer (whether it be hdmi or dvi) will be stretched to fill the entire screen. the only way to have it 1:1 is to have it played through your computer that would put in the black bars itself. and yeah, it has been out for a while now.

Is that true???? so this wont be any good for a 360 plugged into the HDMI as it will be stretched. Can you confirm that Tim.
M4RTIN 7th November 2006, 14:33 Quote
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Is that true???? so this wont be any good for a 360 plugged into the HDMI as it will be stretched. Can you confirm that Tim.

you'll be doing well to plug the xbox into any hdmi ports
mikeuk2004 7th November 2006, 14:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by M4RTIN
you'll be doing well to plug the xbox into any hdmi ports

Does the 360 not connect into HDMI socket??. I thought the HDMI socket is the socket you plug High Def stuff in????

But any how, which ever way you connect the stuff up, will DVD's and the 360 picture be streched if plugged up directly to this monitor.

As I may consider it and a 360 but not if the picture is going to be distorted.
Bindibadgi 7th November 2006, 14:49 Quote
Nope, the 360 doesnt have HDMI or digital out of any kind. You're limited to VGA, Composite and component. Over VGA the 360 will do as many display modes as a PC.
unrealhippie 7th November 2006, 15:27 Quote
I see no reason to upgrade over my Dell though, I mean for one - that amount of money surely they could have spent longer than 2 minutes designing its Bezel and stand.

Anyways more the merrier on the 24" ship :)

Oh and regarding the homepage comment :), any chance of making it a little better for larger screens?
Mother-Goose 7th November 2006, 16:23 Quote
Hmmm this is better than the viewsonic then? I think that was the one Tim said was better than the dell last time round but I didn't see that reffered to...maybe i've had too much fizzy water.
Firehed 7th November 2006, 16:24 Quote
Do the new Dells adjust farther down than the 2405 models? Because just like this Benq, my 2405 only goes down to about three inches above the desk, but you knock it on that.

Still, seems like a decent choice if I were to need something with an HDMI port (which I do hope to avoid). But is there no pass-through digital audio port so that you can have some sound along with your HD video? Seems like a problem, seeing that they're both in the same cable. Minor oversight there?
mclean007 7th November 2006, 17:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Firehed
Still, seems like a decent choice if I were to need something with an HDMI port (which I do hope to avoid).
Why avoid HDMI? It's a neat connector and carries uncompressed HD digital video and digital audio in one cable. Sounds great to me. Now HDCP on the other hand, there's something I'd want to avoid.
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But is there no pass-through digital audio port so that you can have some sound along with your HD video? Seems like a problem, seeing that they're both in the same cable. Minor oversight there?
Not really - just use one of the other audio outputs on whatever source. Saves having more cables hanging off your screen, which is by definition visible.
gvblake22 7th November 2006, 18:13 Quote
Looks like a very nice monitor. Did you (or anyone else here) have a chance to test how the picture looks on a device connected to the Component Video?
JADS 7th November 2006, 18:21 Quote
I must admit as the owner of a 24" screen I'm more interested in their upcoming 30" model :D
Firehed 7th November 2006, 19:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by mclean007
Why avoid HDMI? It's a neat connector and carries uncompressed HD digital video and digital audio in one cable. Sounds great to me. Now HDCP on the other hand, there's something I'd want to avoid.

Not really - just use one of the other audio outputs on whatever source. Saves having more cables hanging off your screen, which is by definition visible.
HDMI is the same as DVI plus digital coax audio, but it only comes on overpriced equipment. As I already have a DVI+optical setup (and optical is theoretically better, as it's not subject to crosstalk or other interference), there's no reason for me to switch. I'm not so much avoiding the connector as the stuff it comes on. I gave up on TV quite a while ago (on a rare occasion I'll bittorrent a show, but that's it) including HDTV, and I've got no plans to invest in any of the HD optical stuff until long after a winner has been decided and the format's been cracked. Though you're right - the real thing to avoid is HDCP, though more out of principle than anything else, seeing that it should be transparent if all goes well (then again so should other DRM, but that's worked SO well...).

That, and ALL of the related gear is insanely overpriced. I picked up an optical switch for ten bucks, and most of my other cabling equally cheaply. A single 6' HDMI cable would cost me twice that from a discount reseller, and switchboxes are often in the triple digits. More than anything else, what I have works and works well, and 'upgrading' so I can deal with one more form of copy protection really doesn't interest me.
Neoki 7th November 2006, 19:12 Quote
So on top of this all what are the best 24" monitors then?
EK-MDi 7th November 2006, 19:38 Quote
I'm still going for the Dell 2406WFP as it's about a hundred pounds cheaper and I'm on a tight budget, and there doesn't seem to be any significant distinction in terms of picture quality.
Kevo 7th November 2006, 19:44 Quote
With no aspect scaling this monitor sucks, you can't even say it does 1080p properly due to the retarded thing stretching every input vertically (I mean vertically ffs!).

Why have all the inputs on the thing if you’re just going to enforce the screens native res? That and it's still not out, it was due in July - now on the website says the 6th of November and yet I still don't see any stock in Overclockers (Benq's preferred supplier). I bet you don't see it this side of Christmas....

Noni 7th November 2006, 20:09 Quote
No mention about the lack of 1:1 Pixel mapping?
speedfreek 7th November 2006, 23:41 Quote
Neweggs got em.

Due to my distrust of dell and not wanting to be caught with a hp product this monitor looks pretty good.
AtomicBanana 8th November 2006, 04:18 Quote
Does the dell do 1:1 mapping? I'll soon be in the market for a 24" display but this complicates matters . . .
mWMA 8th November 2006, 05:42 Quote
Had this monitor for 3 months now. I own dell 24in, samsung 24in and this one at home.
I have also used the gateway 24inch at work and I can say they have flaws when used on a daily basis. The only one I have not used are the apple and HP and other provider of 24inch.

Here are some things you might need to add about this unit in case people want to buy it.

Cons:
Built in USB Hub does not power when switched off using side power button instead of Main switch. Very annoying when external drive gets disconnected when power is switched off. (Dell and samsung do provide power as long you don't turn off the main switch at the bottom. Samsung does have the worst place of position the USB input link cable though.)

Slow Response on switching inputs or options or opening menu or switching screens in menu. If you switch between inputs there is usually a 3-5 second lag before the next input shows up. Also the annoying message stay on the screen for another 3 seconds and you cannot do any other option during this.
(Dell has 1-3 second response on switch. Samsung only 1 sec)

Senseye feature cannot be turned off. You can only play with demo which makes half screen off and half on and this only works when not in standard mode.

Button are quirk most times in that you have to push hard on them. No marking on the front corner to help you know which button is where. You have remember their location over time. Takes a little while to get used their location.
(both samsung and dell have buttons on the front and easy to work with. Gateway has touch sensitive button on front right side and really good to work with.)

No advance Replacement. Both Dell and Samsung do this but BenQ does not. They do have onsite however advance ship is what matter when it comes to getting it replaced.


Pros:
So far in games the LCD works better on my eyes compared to samsung or dell. Haven't played games on the Gateway yet. Maybe next month when I don't have too much work at work.

Excellent color. Black are most black on this monitor even when compared to samsung.

Very little bleeding on sides.

I hope this helps all.
Gimpyfuzznut 8th November 2006, 06:46 Quote
Please, for the love of freaking god, would someone, either the reviewer or owner, let us know how the monitor scales things?c

If it sticks everything to 1080 resolution and stretches x,y,z input, it sucks and I don't freaking want to touch it with a ten foot pole. >:(

If it allows other resolutions to be displayed 1:1 with different options for stretching, I want to touch with my two foot pole. ;)

So can someone let us know how this thing scales content? That really is the make or break for most people. I mean, why have a gang of inputs if its going to stretch everything awkwardly as some people here claim.
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