What I don't understand is, if they go to all the effort of making such a huge chassis and putting a desktop CPU inside, why don't they go all the way and put a desktop GPU inside, considering that is by far the most underpowered component is a gaming laptop.
From what I've seen these G92-based GPUs in laptops often reach upwards of 80°C, so I'm sure you could squeeze in one of these newer 40nm chips with a big enough heatsink and enough airlflow running over it to keep it cool, even if it has to be slightly underclocked.
That looks poor compared to their old chassis.
It's good to hear that Rock have started using good screens again. Looking at the reviews in the mag over that last few years it looked as though they were going for cheaper and cheaper options.
RE: Rehashed G90 parts.
Any idea when we'll see HD5000 series mobile GPU's?
Originally Posted by smc8788 What I don't understand is, if they go to all the effort of making such a huge chassis and putting a desktop CPU inside, why don't they go all the way and put a desktop GPU inside, considering that is by far the most underpowered component is a gaming laptop.
From what I've seen these G92-based GPUs in laptops often reach upwards of 80°C, so I'm sure you could squeeze in one of these newer 40nm chips with a big enough heatsink and enough airlflow running over it to keep it cool, even if it has to be slightly underclocked.
Because modern GPUs put CPUs to shame in terms of heat and power - unless you put a HD5xxx in there. They had a whinge about this on one of the podcasts, ie how the GTX280m is the best laptop GPU out there but is still crap.
Originally Posted by Sheiken But does it play Crysis?
...oh wait.. it kinda does...
I don't understand why people want such a laptop, I know there are people outthere that buy them because they wouldn't make them if they didn't but, isn't there a point you reach where its just not feasable to keep stuffing more and more into, dare i say laptop, because only chuck noris could pull that off as a laptop.
I remain underwhelmed by any nVidia mobile offering. At least when AMD say they're giving you a 4850, it's a 4850 (albeit clocked lower)... so I'd be far more impressed if this had a 4850m/4870m/5850m powering it rather than the 260m... sorry, 9800m... sorry, 8800m.... uh, which was it again?
I'd be more interested in that 18.4" 5850-based Acer Aspire 8942 laptop than this offering... if it wasn't for the fact that it was Acer.
Aside from that... that keyboard is appalling. There is no excuse on a 17" laptop, not to have a full size (ie: four key wide) numeric pad. If Dell can do it on the Studio 17, and HP can do it on their 17" laptops, why can't the OEM for this machine?
Future owners should drill two holes in the side of the laptop, and replace the CPU/GPU heatsink with a waterblock, and WC/OC the balls off the laptop. Although carrying around a external pump+res+rad combo looks awkward, with the fugly plaque stating Notebook in the middle of the lid...
Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter I'd be more interested in that 18.4" 5850-based Acer Aspire 8942 laptop than this offering... if it wasn't for the fact that it was Acer.
Looks good. I hope they do a dual core version when Clarkfield is available. I'd rather have two faster cores.
Lol did someone really just call a 18,4" THING a laptop? When will it ever end? If I slap a car battery inside my Corsair Obsidian and hinge a 24" screen and keyboard from the side panel, will it be a laptop? These are the questions that keep me up at night.
Originally Posted by Jipa Lol did someone really just call a 18,4" THING a laptop? When will it ever end? If I slap a car battery inside my Corsair Obsidian and hinge a 24" screen and keyboard from the side panel, will it be a laptop? These are the questions that keep me up at night.
Good review nonetheless.
we are coming full circle. here is the first ever portable PC (made by Compaq):
Only think to watch when buying Rock is their support is/was really bad, a quick search on their forums will show you this.
I use to own a Rock laptop and it took several months to get anyone thing sorted. the amount of lost time i had with my laptop being away for weeks if not months at a time!
I really want to support small firms like this but having owned a Rock laptop and having used their support i wont be buying one again
However that said nice review and its nice to see Rock are still tradding
You can buy a Core i7 720 laptop with a half decent GPU (something like a 4670) from Dell, that also has an RGBLED screen and lots of stuff this behemoth doesn't, AND have change to build a Core i7 gaming rig for your desk. So in conclusion, (IMHO), you'd have to be high on crack to buy this, it doesn't even look nice.
Originally Posted by Jipa Lol did someone really just call a 18,4" THING a laptop? When will it ever end? If I slap a car battery inside my Corsair Obsidian and hinge a 24" screen and keyboard from the side panel, will it be a laptop? These are the questions that keep me up at night.
Good review nonetheless.
That would actually be quite useful for LANs. No more carrying around multiple bags. Just place your monitor in the side of your obsidian, fold down the keyboard, click the start button and "pwn sum n00bs1!!1!1one!"
Originally Posted by Jipa Lol did someone really just call a 18,4" THING a laptop? When will it ever end? If I slap a car battery inside my Corsair Obsidian and hinge a 24" screen and keyboard from the side panel, will it be a laptop? These are the questions that keep me up at night.
Well, some of the 18.4" laptops are more portable than this monstrosity, as they're more than a full KG lighter. They aren't small, but to be honest with the size rucksack I lug around at times, 15", 17", 18.4"... it's all the same in the end. For me, the weight is important, not the size. :)
If I want an ultraportable, I'll buy an ultraportable. ;)
My 14" ASUS N81VP (non-Bariatric) laptop runs rings round this heap of junk, at native resolution, for half the price (T9550 CPU, ATI HD4650 1Gb GPU). As you might have guessed we are not impressed...
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Replyon a more related topic have you tried beating some whales with that thing, It's Mahooosive.
[edit] Scratch that i might of missed the big picture for this week :S lol, move along[/Edit]
And a few more:
Why have HDMI with no blu ray?
Why no SSD for that price?
From what I've seen these G92-based GPUs in laptops often reach upwards of 80°C, so I'm sure you could squeeze in one of these newer 40nm chips with a big enough heatsink and enough airlflow running over it to keep it cool, even if it has to be slightly underclocked.
It's good to hear that Rock have started using good screens again. Looking at the reviews in the mag over that last few years it looked as though they were going for cheaper and cheaper options.
RE: Rehashed G90 parts.
Any idea when we'll see HD5000 series mobile GPU's?
Because modern GPUs put CPUs to shame in terms of heat and power - unless you put a HD5xxx in there. They had a whinge about this on one of the podcasts, ie how the GTX280m is the best laptop GPU out there but is still crap.
In a bad way, mind.
...oh wait.. it kinda does...
I don't understand why people want such a laptop, I know there are people outthere that buy them because they wouldn't make them if they didn't but, isn't there a point you reach where its just not feasable to keep stuffing more and more into, dare i say laptop, because only chuck noris could pull that off as a laptop.
I'd be more interested in that 18.4" 5850-based Acer Aspire 8942 laptop than this offering... if it wasn't for the fact that it was Acer.
Aside from that... that keyboard is appalling. There is no excuse on a 17" laptop, not to have a full size (ie: four key wide) numeric pad. If Dell can do it on the Studio 17, and HP can do it on their 17" laptops, why can't the OEM for this machine?
It can't get any worse, can it?
Good review nonetheless.
we are coming full circle. here is the first ever portable PC (made by Compaq):
http://www.translationdirectory.com/images_articles/wikipedia/compaq_portable.jpg
I use to own a Rock laptop and it took several months to get anyone thing sorted. the amount of lost time i had with my laptop being away for weeks if not months at a time!
I really want to support small firms like this but having owned a Rock laptop and having used their support i wont be buying one again
However that said nice review and its nice to see Rock are still tradding
That would actually be quite useful for LANs. No more carrying around multiple bags. Just place your monitor in the side of your obsidian, fold down the keyboard, click the start button and "pwn sum n00bs1!!1!1one!"
Well, some of the 18.4" laptops are more portable than this monstrosity, as they're more than a full KG lighter. They aren't small, but to be honest with the size rucksack I lug around at times, 15", 17", 18.4"... it's all the same in the end. For me, the weight is important, not the size. :)
If I want an ultraportable, I'll buy an ultraportable. ;)
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