Loving that the GTX 260M is secretly a 8800GT, nice rebranding by nvidia. Oh and you should've done a Street Fighter 4 benchmark! It's in the screenshots and I bet it could have achieved 60fps in that.
Already seen the custom pc review of this a while back. Personally i don't see the point in these types of laptops and for the price i would rather get a i7 desktop rig and then with the change get the new i7 dell studio 15 or something for on the move. Though i guess the alienware looks cool in the asthetics department.
Why-o-why havn't we seen more 'gaming' laptops with the mobility HD48xx series GPUS?
The HD4850m in my Advent 6555 is superior to the GPU in this laptop yet I paid under £950 for the entire laptop. My screen resolution is lower but, crucially, as its a gaming laptop with a relatively underpowered gpu (by desktop standards) it actually makes sense (as games like Crysis are playable with decent detail settings).
The Alienware looks ok (although its considerably fatter than my MSI based Advent) but the price is just ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Bonzo45 The link to the CustomPC benchmarks goes to the bit-tech.net homepage, with a little CustomPC announcement box. Not to a download.
I don't see the point either, but perhaps the tests was a little few... I mean crysis is a sucker for power on any system, how about testing left 4 dead 2 (or 1 since the demo of 2 is delayed until oblivion), counterstrike source, red alert 3 and similar games people will actually play. I mean, nobody EVER bought a laptop to play crysis? (Edit: and testing crysis on this machine doesnt give a clear picture of what power this machine has, test nfs:shift and some never titles)
I hate to be the one to do this but why oh why do you give the custom pc benchmark scores in points? It's just completely useless in my opinion and doesn't give an indication how much better at something one piece of hardware is, I used to love bit-techs hardware reviews and could never say a bad word but this is happening a lot more often and just doesn't give an idea of real world performance. I know this is marketed at a gaming laptop and IMO the gaming benchmarks were fine but giving stuff like points for video encoding, image editing and multitasking just seems completely useless to me :(
Benchmarks with points aren't a good way to show performance, look at 3DMark, just because one card scores higher than the other doesn't mean it's gonna perform better so I always skip those parts of reviews. I get the feeling I'm gonna end up skipping parts of upcoming reviews if it's always like this T_T
Originally Posted by wiak excuse me i dont want to waste cash on a OLD graphics card the 260M is just a renamed 9800 GTX series that is also a renamed 8800 GTX series :P
Geforce GTX 260M = not a GT200 chip
Geforce GTX 280M = not a GT200 chip
Yup they are all G92 based, hence my post above querying why we don't see more of the HD48XXm series in these class laptops.
Of course I could go into how retarted the mobile lineup is from nVidia but I can't be bothered.
I too have never seen the point of thick brick gaming laptops. Cool but I think I liked the old versions better for looks. This and the towers look to be designed by epic games. Square and tacky. Looks a bit like a bad teenage boy's Car Poster relics but no bikinis.
Originally Posted by storm20200 I hate to be the one to do this but why oh why do you give the custom pc benchmark scores in points? It's just completely useless in my opinion and doesn't give an indication how much better at something one piece of hardware is, I used to love bit-techs hardware reviews and could never say a bad word but this is happening a lot more often and just doesn't give an idea of real world performance. I know this is marketed at a gaming laptop and IMO the gaming benchmarks were fine but giving stuff like points for video encoding, image editing and multitasking just seems completely useless to me :(
Benchmarks with points aren't a good way to show performance, look at 3DMark, just because one card scores higher than the other doesn't mean it's gonna perform better so I always skip those parts of reviews. I get the feeling I'm gonna end up skipping parts of upcoming reviews if it's always like this T_T
From the article: The scores are normalised against a reference PC that includes a stock-speed Core 2 Duo E6700, 2GB of DDR2 memory and a fast P45 motherboard. This PC scores 1,000 points, so if your PC scores 1,300, it's 30 per cent faster than the reference system, and if it scores less than 1,000 points, it's slower.
Does that not explain what the points mean well enough?
I actually have this laptop since like a couple weeks after it came out. Its a big step up from my old xps1530. That thing couldn't handle games at all. It was new packed w/ a 8600 and built thin so you couldn't upgrade. I now have dual gtx 260m in sli. Big difference.
Its not really all that squared. The front and back are slanted while the front has a corner in the middle of the lid. Little awkward if u wanted a better webcam or a center speaker there. Its definitely not made for mobility. Its thick and heavy.
I do love the shape and everything this thing can handle. It does have Vista 64 but not Ultimate. It will get Win7 64bit on it tho soon.
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Vista... It comes with Vista!?
This refers to the O/S the laptop was tested with. Obviously as 7 is out now, Alienware will be selling it with that instead.
£2000 for the privelege of running Crysis at 20fps.....
'More money than sense'....comes to mind, if you buy one of these.
Perhaps but you have to admit it looks damn sexy, reminds me of that new Lamborghini Murcielago or the F-22 Raptor
Just thought I'd let you know.
The HD4850m in my Advent 6555 is superior to the GPU in this laptop yet I paid under £950 for the entire laptop. My screen resolution is lower but, crucially, as its a gaming laptop with a relatively underpowered gpu (by desktop standards) it actually makes sense (as games like Crysis are playable with decent detail settings).
The Alienware looks ok (although its considerably fatter than my MSI based Advent) but the price is just ridiculous.
Just shy of £2000 you should at least expect to have Ultimate rather than Home Premium
Is that an error or am i reading it wrong ?
Laptop looks a bit too square for me.
:D
Cheers, changed the URL.
Geforce GTX 260M = not a GT200 chip
Geforce GTX 280M = not a GT200 chip
Benchmarks with points aren't a good way to show performance, look at 3DMark, just because one card scores higher than the other doesn't mean it's gonna perform better so I always skip those parts of reviews. I get the feeling I'm gonna end up skipping parts of upcoming reviews if it's always like this T_T
Yup they are all G92 based, hence my post above querying why we don't see more of the HD48XXm series in these class laptops.
Of course I could go into how retarted the mobile lineup is from nVidia but I can't be bothered.
All I will say is:
9800mGT - 96 shaders
9800mGTS - 64 shaders
......
From the article: The scores are normalised against a reference PC that includes a stock-speed Core 2 Duo E6700, 2GB of DDR2 memory and a fast P45 motherboard. This PC scores 1,000 points, so if your PC scores 1,300, it's 30 per cent faster than the reference system, and if it scores less than 1,000 points, it's slower.
Does that not explain what the points mean well enough?
on page 4 http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2009/10/26/download-the-custompc-media-benchmarks-here/
so you can score your pc
Its not really all that squared. The front and back are slanted while the front has a corner in the middle of the lid. Little awkward if u wanted a better webcam or a center speaker there. Its definitely not made for mobility. Its thick and heavy.
I do love the shape and everything this thing can handle. It does have Vista 64 but not Ultimate. It will get Win7 64bit on it tho soon.