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Nvidia GeForce GTX TITAN Black Review: feat. ZOTAC

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true_gamer 26th February 2014, 11:49 Quote
Great review! - Think my money is heading towards that GTX780Ti! :)
AlienwareAndy 26th February 2014, 11:49 Quote
Another silly card. I would like it though :D
Baz 26th February 2014, 11:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by true_gamer
Great review! - Think my money is heading towards that GTX780Ti! :)

Good to see you're back to spending mad amounts on PC hardware!
true_gamer 26th February 2014, 11:58 Quote
Thanks Baz! - And yes, it wouldn't be the same without me doing so! lol :)
littlepuppi 26th February 2014, 12:06 Quote
Nice to spot you about TG... Is that sig your rig as it stands? Been a while since i noticed you around :D
Andy Mc 26th February 2014, 12:16 Quote
DAYUM!

I'm looking to spend a bit less than the cost of that for my entire next PC. I need to win the lottery...
Spreadie 26th February 2014, 12:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by true_gamer
Great review! - Think my money is heading towards that GTX780Ti! :)

Just the one, Simon?

Son, I am disappoint!

Chris_Waddle 26th February 2014, 13:20 Quote
Nice card and a good reviews as always, but for the first time in a long time, I'm really not tempted to go for top of the range Nvidia card.
I had a couple of Titans and whilst they were very nice cards they still stuttered in SLI when I was playing BF4.

You mention in the review that you will be using the new drivers on other Nvidia cards; when AMD release new official drivers will you update the AMD cards scores too? I'm no AMD fanboi, but the 14.2 beta drivers really do make a difference for me on BF4.

Your BF4 scores for the 290X were pretty much what I saw on the 13.12 drivers. The difference (in BF4) with the 14.2 beta drivers is massive and mantle works too (I have a 4930k @ 4.5ghz so wasn't expecting much from Mantle). These drivers have given me the biggest boost I have ever seen from either company.
damien c 26th February 2014, 14:04 Quote
Makes me happy to see that this card doesn't really gain anything over my 780Ti's in games :)

Pointless card for anyone who only wants to game.
rollo 26th February 2014, 14:39 Quote
They always were pointless for just gaming once the 780ti launched. Plenty of sites run up to date driver reviews. Updating bit techs for every review would mean you never have anything to compare it too.

AMD and nvidia see massive gains in drivers as the time goes on after the launch of there big cards. 7970 and 680 have both gained 20-25% since the orginal launch of the cards. The 7970 cfx has gone from unplayable to playable due to frame pacing.

As far as mantle chris no frame pacing means I have no intrest in it simple enough. 4k will be my next big upgrade and 1 Gpu is not going to run it smoothly. AMDs lack of frame pacing in mantle means its Irelivent to me as it is to others. It's relying on devs to do the work, Thief launched without mantle at all suggests AMD is in crazy land. Most if not all 2014 releases for mantle will have it added on in patches or as a after thought.

It will be 2015 before we see a mantle developed game due to the way game development times are.

Some people I know in USA can buy 2 780s for 1 r290 due to the current crytocraze.
Chris_Waddle 26th February 2014, 14:48 Quote
The new beta drivers do have frame pacing. If you read the release notes here, you can see that it clearly states that they do now (for BF3 / BF4 at least).
kenco_uk 26th February 2014, 14:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Just the one, Simon?

Son, I am disappoint!

Aye, kind of expecting tri-sli at least!
Big_malc 26th February 2014, 17:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by true_gamer
Great review! - Think my money is heading towards that GTX780Ti! :)
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Just the one, Simon?

Son, I am disappoint!
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Aye, kind of expecting tri-sli at least!

Give it time every journey starts with a single step :D
true_gamer 26th February 2014, 18:54 Quote
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Nice to spot you about TG... Is that sig your rig as it stands? Been a while since i noticed you around :D

Thanks mate! - Yes it is mate, apart from the Mobo now, as I have the Rampage Formula as the Extreme gave up on me... :)
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Just the one, Simon?

Son, I am disappoint!

You know that is never the case! Lol :D
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Aye, kind of expecting tri-sli at least!

We will see! ;)
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Give it time every journey starts with a single step :D

Well I was thinking of starting off with 2 in the not so distance future! ;)
Noob? 26th February 2014, 18:59 Quote
Haha, the mans back!

TG, lovin' the avatar!

Meanmotion, good review upon quick glance, will give it a proper read later this evening. Thanks.
true_gamer 26th February 2014, 19:04 Quote
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Haha, the mans back!

TG, lovin' the avatar!

Meanmotion, good review upon quick glance, will give it a proper read later this evening. Thanks.

Yes I am! :D & Thanks! - It's how I felt in 2013! Lol :D
rollo 26th February 2014, 19:36 Quote
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The new beta drivers do have frame pacing. If you read the release notes here, you can see that it clearly states that they do now (for BF3 / BF4 at least).

Its direct x 10 / 11 only. AMD confirmed in there initial press release that mantle frame pacing would be handled by the devs of the game.

Frame pacing for duel graphics.

No where does it mension the word mantle and frame pacing.
Dogbert666 26th February 2014, 21:55 Quote
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Meanmotion, good review upon quick glance, will give it a proper read later this evening. Thanks.

D:
dangerman1337 26th February 2014, 22:26 Quote
Awfully weird at 3840x2160 or 5760x1080 you'd expect the 6GB VRAM to kick in and give it a not-irrelevant performance advantage over the 780ti.

Meh, I'm waiting for performance/high end Maxwell (I really want to play Witcher 3 max and future games @2560x1440, hopefully they'll be a 4GB 512-bit memory-bus one this year).
Pete J 27th February 2014, 06:31 Quote
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Awfully weird at 3840x2160 or 5760x1080 you'd expect the 6GB VRAM to kick in and give it a not-irrelevant performance advantage over the 780ti.
There's a lot of misconception about VRAM IMHO.

You only need more than 3GB if you're running 4K (or near enough) with beyond 4xMSAA/SSAA AND you have enough GPU power (think four way SLI with overclocked Titans) to run it. Personally, I find FXAA is very effective at high resolution as the reduced pixel pitch removes the FXAA 'blurring' effect it is famous for and the need for silly high AA is removed.
Dogbert666 27th February 2014, 11:36 Quote
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Awfully weird at 3840x2160 or 5760x1080 you'd expect the 6GB VRAM to kick in and give it a not-irrelevant performance advantage over the 780ti.
There's a lot of misconception about VRAM IMHO.

You only need more than 3GB if you're running 4K (or near enough) with beyond 4xMSAA/SSAA AND you have enough GPU power (think four way SLI with overclocked Titans) to run it. Personally, I find FXAA is very effective at high resolution as the reduced pixel pitch removes the FXAA 'blurring' effect it is famous for and the need for silly high AA is removed.

This. VRAM can become a bottleneck, but single GPU cards aren't really at the point where they can run 4K at full settings. And as you said, the need for MSAA with a 4K screen is essentially zero - it's why we test without it in each of the newer (non-Skyrim) games.
dangerman1337 27th February 2014, 17:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pete J
There's a lot of misconception about VRAM IMHO.

You only need more than 3GB if you're running 4K (or near enough) with beyond 4xMSAA/SSAA AND you have enough GPU power (think four way SLI with overclocked Titans) to run it. Personally, I find FXAA is very effective at high resolution as the reduced pixel pitch removes the FXAA 'blurring' effect it is famous for and the need for silly high AA is removed.
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This. VRAM can become a bottleneck, but single GPU cards aren't really at the point where they can run 4K at full settings. And as you said, the need for MSAA with a 4K screen is essentially zero - it's why we test without it in each of the newer (non-Skyrim) games.
Personally it's because of Titanfall which has insane which can consume over 3GB VRAM (I was stuttering on my 7950 on insane texture quality), though it doesn't even apparently have the texture quality of the likes of BF4 or Crysis 3. There's also future games to consider @ 2560x1440, I suppose @ 1080p 3GB is good enough for a long while with a 780 ti but at 2560x1440? I think 4GB should be at least considered or maybe I just want to run Witcher 3 at max at 2560x1440 .
rollo 27th February 2014, 17:58 Quote
To max witcher 3 will require more than 1 gpu id imagine, Witcher 2 required 2 of the best at the time to max.
true_gamer 27th February 2014, 23:31 Quote
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To max witcher 3 will require more than 1 gpu id imagine, Witcher 2 required 2 of the best at the time to max.

Even with 3 GTX670 4GB cards, Witcher 2 still eat my system maxed at 2560x1440. So god knows what Witcher 3 is gonna be like maxed out!
littlepuppi 28th February 2014, 00:23 Quote
looks like you need titan blacks!
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