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MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3GB Review

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Gradius 10th October 2013, 02:21 Quote
My GTX 580 started to show issues, when R9 290X will be out? I need one ASAP!
Speed 10th October 2013, 02:57 Quote
The reviewers are under NDA so they won't say, but I've heard that the NDA expires on the 15th, so that would be a good bet.
Bede 10th October 2013, 05:18 Quote
Typo on the first line - what is sub-editor for?
Dogbert666 10th October 2013, 10:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Speed
The reviewers are under NDA so they won't say, but I've heard that the NDA expires on the 15th, so that would be a good bet.

15th was just the original NDA for 280X etc. that got moved to the 8th :P As of yet we don't have one for 290 series.
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Typo on the first line - what is sub-editor for?

Fixed. It's been a long few days...
sakzzz 10th October 2013, 11:10 Quote
The overclock is admittedly marginal, but there's a decent amount of extra headroom for more, especially on the memory chips, indeed it's something of a shame MSI hasn't "overclcoked" the memory by default.

Over-Coke
Hustler 10th October 2013, 12:05 Quote
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Nvidia has already announced price cuts to its lower end cards.

Where?
Corky42 10th October 2013, 12:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hustler
Where?

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131009PD215.html
Smellyhead 10th October 2013, 18:27 Quote
So would if be worth upgrading to one of these from a 7870 or better to buy a 7970 while their cheap?
Speed 10th October 2013, 18:31 Quote
In my mind there is no point paying more money for what is effectively the same card. I think we'll see some 7970 discounts as retailers clear their stocks so get one of those.
Corky42 10th October 2013, 18:47 Quote
If you are planning on buying a 7970 you may want to think about making it quick, according to rumor...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63551-will-crossfire-r9-280x-hd-7970-scaling-tested.html
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if AMD is to be believed and the sales of HD 7970 and its GHz Edition counterpart continue apace, they will soon be gone from the retail channels. According to some of our retail contacts, that day is actually right around the corner with their stocks expected to be depleted by mid-November at the latest.
Kovoet 11th October 2013, 09:02 Quote
I'm waiting for the 290. Saving up now as I will get one the end of the month. Can't wait to see a proper review on that one
Panos 15th October 2013, 11:05 Quote
Hey, are we going to see a review for the Sapphire R9 280X Toxic? Or you do not want a humble AMD exchange blows with the GTX780 at half the price as it seems from other reviews?
Corky42 15th October 2013, 11:44 Quote
Got a link to such a review ? as the only ones i have seen are comparing it to a GTX 770, not the 780.
Panos 15th October 2013, 14:23 Quote
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Got a link to such a review ? as the only ones i have seen are comparing it to a GTX 770, not the 780.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7406/the-sapphire-r9-280x-toxic-review/3

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-r9-280x-toxic-edition-oc-3gb-review/

For £270 is bargain given that you can still get 2 for the price of a GTX780!!!
Corky42 15th October 2013, 17:48 Quote
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But at the end of this first review you link to it says...
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Meanwhile we’ll also quickly point out that the 280X Toxic ends up being faster than a stock GTX 770 by several percent for $50 less. But that’s a tricky comparison at best since we’re now comparing different cooler types (blower versus open air), a significant difference in power consumption, and it doesn’t take into account any of the customized GTX 770 cards. But it’s at least food for thought.
And at the end of the next link...
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It says...
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If you are in the market for a new high performance AMD graphics card then we have to put the Sapphire R9 280X Toxic Edition at the top of the list. It is not only faster than any other R9 280X we have tested to date, but it is actually very competitively priced at £269.99 inc vat. The GTX780 might still be faster, but the price difference of £230+ means that many gamers will invest the difference into other hardware components and upgrades.
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For £270 is bargain given that you can still get 2 for the price of a GTX780!!!

That its a bargain, is something i can agree on but trying to compare a highly overclocked card with a stock card is a bit of a stretch, you are tying to compare apples with pears.
Panos 15th October 2013, 22:55 Quote
The card is sold as is. And AS IS = beats the GTX780.
Corky42 16th October 2013, 00:18 Quote
The card being sold is highly overclocked, and even then it doesn't beat a stock clocked 780 in some benchmarks.
Surrender_Monkey 16th October 2013, 14:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gradius
My GTX 580 started to show issues, when R9 290X will be out? I need one ASAP!

Get another GTX580 from E-Bay and go SLI. I have two overclocked to 910ghz and they fly. Been playing BF4 at 80 to 100 fps at 1080p on full Ultra. Nvidia sli scales well and I very rarely get any micro-stutter. The R9 290x is a great card but too expensive. Only worth considering if you are playing at higher resolutions.
Surrender_Monkey 16th October 2013, 15:04 Quote
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The card being sold is highly overclocked, and even then it doesn't beat a stock clocked 780 in some benchmarks.

That is true, but it is very close to a stock GTX 780 at about 55% of the price. Those extra few fps from the GTX 780 cost c£240 which is simply not worth it. Notwithstanding this it is good to see the video card market hotting up after a rather stale period. Nvidia has more in the pipeline and what it means for us all is that we will get more for our money as the competition increases.
Corky42 16th October 2013, 15:24 Quote
Yea, but isn't it always the case of having to pay silly money for just a little bit more.
I'm not saying the R9 280X is a bad card, far from it. But i think its better to compare it with a 770, as when you do the R9 280X beats it in both performance and price.

On a side note, does anyone know if you could take a 7970 and flash it to a R9 280X ?
Maki role 16th October 2013, 15:29 Quote
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Notwithstanding this it is good to see the video card market hotting up after a rather stale period.

Personally I don't quite see how having only one real new product from each company translates to the market 'hotting up'. To me it just seems stale as ever. The switch from AMD's 6xxx line to the 7xxx line was quite exciting, as was Nvidia's 5xx to 6xx (slightly less so thanks to the GK 110 swap and wait). But this current generation is a bore to say the least.

Whilst I'm definitely not looking to upgrade any time soon (given the only upgrade path is adding another Titan, anything else is a downgrade), I do hope the next generation (and process shrink?) is more exciting at least from a by-stander's perspective.
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