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Zotac GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core Limited Edition Review

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adidan 29th November 2011, 16:08 Quote
The price on this is shocking.

You can get a full blown 570 for that price, why on earth would I pay the same amount for a less capable card, no matter how good it is?
Baz 29th November 2011, 16:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by adidan
The price on this is shocking.

You can get a full blown 570 for that price, why on earth would I pay the same amount for a less capable card, no matter how good it is?

It's priced for performance; this Zotac card is about as fast as a stock GTX 570, for less monies (GTX 570's might dip down to a similar level, but only stock ones, and only briefly).
adidan 29th November 2011, 16:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
It's priced for performance; this Zotac card is about as fast as a stock GTX 570, for less monies (GTX 570's might dip down to a similar level, but only stock ones, and only briefly).
With the discount code at Dabs you can get a KFA2 570 for £10 less than this.

How does that make sense?
noizdaemon666 29th November 2011, 16:17 Quote
There's a distinct lack of GTX 470 results, even though you list it as one of the GPUs included as a comparison. I only say this because I just got one from the forums, but I'd still like to know how it compares with the newer tech. Not a big ask I think, given you've included 5770 results lol
Baz 29th November 2011, 16:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
It's priced for performance; this Zotac card is about as fast as a stock GTX 570, for less monies (GTX 570's might dip down to a similar level, but only stock ones, and only briefly).
With the discount code at Dabs you can get a KFA2 570 for £10 less than this.

How does that make sense?

You've answered your own question there; with discount codes etc. Performance and pricing will always go hand in hand and this card = 570 performance. partner to partner pricing will always differ as someone is always ready to undercut someone else. As I said in the review, factory and user applied overclocks muddy the water, but on average You'll find the 570 is generally at least £10-20 more.
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Originally Posted by noizdaemon666
There's a distinct lack of GTX 470 results, even though you list it as one of the GPUs included as a comparison. I only say this because I just got one from the forums, but I'd still like to know how it compares with the newer tech. Not a big ask I think, given you've included 5770 results lol

As I said in the performance analysis, we're kind of between graphics benchmark updates at the moment. It's frustrating, but we sadly we can't re-test 30 cards just for one review, so while the 470 features in some, its not in all the results. We'll be putting together a new suite of benchmarks in time for the shiny genuine-new-GPU-ness next year, including BF3 and Skyrim.
trig 29th November 2011, 16:36 Quote
odd choice of games to run other than bf3...

the hexus review was able to achieve an oc to 950 on the core and 4400 on the memory...that's impressive...still this thing needs to fall about 5-10% to be a good buy
noizdaemon666 29th November 2011, 16:37 Quote
Can I ask why you tested low end cards such as the 5770 and the GTS 450 but not higher end ones like the 470 first? Not that I'm having a dig, just curious :D

And apologies, I skipped the analysis bit to write my initial comment lol
adidan 29th November 2011, 16:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
Performance and pricing will always go hand in hand and this card = 570 performance. partner to partner pricing will always differ as someone is always ready to undercut someone else. As I said in the review, factory and user applied overclocks muddy the water, but on average You'll find the 570 is generally at least £10-20 more.
Actually, I said the 570 is cheaper with codes, it's the same price otherwise.

So, out of interest, would you spend the same amount on a card with 448 cores as you would on one with more cores, considering the fact that you may decide to overclock?

Anyway, the point is moot for me know. Nvidias tactics worked, they forced me into buying a 570. A Phantom for £260 will do me.

Don't get me wrong BTW, it was a good review, it's just the price I have a gripe with.
Hustler 29th November 2011, 16:49 Quote
"while the GTX 560 448 Core looks a sound investment right now; it might not stay that way for long. "

Lolz...Bit Tech being polite to it's readers...actual translation, 'you'd be incredibly dumb to pay this much now for a pimped up 560'.
deanimate 29th November 2011, 17:07 Quote
That price can smeg right off. Maybe I was being optimistic with thoughts of a £200 price but this? pffft.
560ti it is.
£167 vs £234 going by ebuyers pricing. Can't justify that hike.
Bede 29th November 2011, 17:08 Quote
I am surprised to see it outperform the 570, kudos to nvidia's engineers.
adidan 29th November 2011, 17:25 Quote
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I am surprised to see it outperform the 570, kudos to nvidia's engineers.
Oddly enough other reviews have had it performing 5-10% slower than a 570 as was expected initially. Weird.

What's also weird is that Zotac said it would retail for $289 which is about £185....
Shuttlemodder 29th November 2011, 17:41 Quote
i think ill avoid this one :)
Floyd 29th November 2011, 17:48 Quote
*waits in the wings calmly with my old GTX275s*
I think ill wait for the new stuff to come out. Heck I can play BF3 and Skyrim almost maxed out.
Redbeaver 29th November 2011, 17:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hustler
"while the GTX 560 448 Core looks a sound investment right now; it might not stay that way for long. "

Lolz...Bit Tech being polite to it's readers...actual translation, 'you'd be incredibly dumb to pay this much now for a pimped up 560'.

correction: 'you'd be incredibly dumb to pay this much now for a gimped 570'
Somer_Himpson 29th November 2011, 18:08 Quote
Bought an MSI GTX 570 2 weeks ago from Scan for £245...overclocked to similar levels.
kzinti1 29th November 2011, 20:41 Quote
That sure is a pretty card. I wonder how a pair or a trio would work together?
I don't know about them "sneaking" this card out when damned near every review site in existance is posting reviews of it. Google "Zotac GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core Limited Edition" and you'll see what I'm talking about. Kind of like trying to "sneak" the murderous dictator Kim Jung Il through the front door of the White House.
Redbeaver 29th November 2011, 21:00 Quote
lol yup. so lotsa reviews. some have multiple cards or multiple reviews or both. nothing sneaky here. i think they just wanna kill the 570 slowly before Keppler next year.

thx to the price tho i think ill wait for Keppler afterall...
Landy_Ed 29th November 2011, 23:33 Quote
So. anyone thinking of buying a 2nd 560ti for SLI with an existing card should avoid this one, yes?
adidan 29th November 2011, 23:36 Quote
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So. anyone thinking of buying a 2nd 560ti for SLI with an existing card should avoid this one, yes?
Actually, that's a good point.

I don't think they'd actually work with the non 448's in SLi would they (irrespective of the cost) what with them having different core counts and different GPUs (GF114 and 110).
metarinka 30th November 2011, 02:43 Quote
bummer, I'm sitting with my 5850 right now, considering whether I should upgrade or hang out for the next gen, I think if I upgrade now I could sell the 5850 and still get maybe 80-100$ for it which would be cash towards the next card...

but the current gen is old and the next gen is still waiting and there's no gauruntee the next gen will be at a good price/performance
GiantKiwi 30th November 2011, 02:43 Quote
Adidan: HardwareHeaven confirmed it, no SLI with older 560 Ti's, youve got to pair them up like for like.
adidan 30th November 2011, 08:25 Quote
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Adidan: HardwareHeaven confirmed it, no SLI with older 560 Ti's, youve got to pair them up like for like.
Aye, I thought as much. I shall be slightly smug for being right even though I was right about something obvious. :)
law99 30th November 2011, 09:01 Quote
I don't see what the beef with this card is if it on the whole is slightly cheaper than the 570. It seems to have done better than the 570 in the review and you get that little extra memory over the 560ti whilst retaining the memory speeds, unlike if you buy a 2gb 560ti.

The only uncertainty is whether you can get a 570 cheaper or if there is a 6XX or 7XXX on the horizon.
Xir 30th November 2011, 09:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by law99
The only uncertainty is whether you can get a 570 cheaper or if there is a 6XX or 7XXX on the horizon.
Yes.
This year is strange, I'd have expected new cards to arrive before Christmas (right about now).
Is there an approximate due date? Before CeBit?
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