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ATI Radeon HD 6970 2GB Review

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Yslen 15th December 2010, 05:17 Quote
<rubs eyes sleepily>

Thanks Bindi, got up early for this!!

Edit: Well, I think I'll stick with my 6870 to be honest. The price difference is pretty huge compared to the performance gap.

<goes back to read article in-depth instead of just skimming the benchmark charts>
Kenny79 15th December 2010, 05:29 Quote
But can it play Minecraft?
Autti 15th December 2010, 05:31 Quote
Yawn. What a lame release.
ssj12 15th December 2010, 05:32 Quote
from what I can tell, AMD needs more mature drivers, but still the GTX580 is a beast. AMD has a real fight on their hands again with Nvidia. I only wonder how next gen will play out.
PhoenixTank 15th December 2010, 05:41 Quote
A bit of an anticlimax, I guess. I suppose that was inevitable though - I have a feeling it'll be more interesting once the GPUs move to 32nm. (make that 28nm)
play_boy_2000 15th December 2010, 05:48 Quote
After the 6870, I was expecting far better numbers than this...

I guess the only thing for ATI to do is cut prices.
Fizzban 15th December 2010, 05:54 Quote
So after all the waiting a 570 is basically a better buy anyway.
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 15th December 2010, 06:24 Quote
Wow very surprising.....NOT if your in the know then you understand that AMD new scheme for the HD 6970 to be on par with the GTx 570 and the HD 6950 top have it's own tier. Once all eye candy is applied with 8x AA 16 AF then the HD 6970 really shines and does come closer to the GTX 580. Tessellation performance has been vastly improved and in the event Developers get real and start using Ray Tracing, the HD 5970 5870 6970 6950 all surpass the GTX 580.

The GTX 580 goes back and forth with the HD 5970 untill the HD 6990 is released but at $350 the HD 6970 is a good deal but so is the GTX 570. Most people will see this a an Nvidia win by not understanding AMD will use the HD 6990 to compete with the GTX 580 at the over $500 a card position. Can't wait to find some CF vs Sli benchmarks.
ssj12 15th December 2010, 06:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by Krayzie_B.o.n.e.
Wow very surprising.....NOT if your in the know then you understand that AMD new scheme for the HD 6970 to be on par with the GTx 570 and the HD 6950 top have it's own tier. Once all eye candy is applied with 8x AA 16 AF then the HD 6970 really shines and does come closer to the GTX 580. Tessellation performance has been vastly improved and in the event Developers get real and start using Ray Tracing, the HD 5970 5870 6970 6950 all surpass the GTX 580.

The GTX 580 goes back and forth with the HD 5970 untill the HD 6990 is released but at $350 the HD 6970 is a good deal but so is the GTX 570. Most people will see this a an Nvidia win by not understanding AMD will use the HD 6990 to compete with the GTX 580 at the over $500 a card position. Can't wait to find some CF vs Sli benchmarks.

the 6990 is a dual GPU card... it cant be compared evenly with the GTX580. Now when manufacturers make a deal GPU out of say the GTX560 like they did the GTX460 then we can compare. Unless you want to compare 6990 performance versus two GTX580s in SLi.
djzic 15th December 2010, 06:38 Quote
:( I hate to see nvidia having the lead, always been a bit of an AMD/ATI fanboy.
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 15th December 2010, 06:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by ssj12


the 6990 is a dual GPU card... it cant be compared evenly with the GTX580. Now when manufacturers make a deal GPU out of say the GTX560 like they did the GTX460 then we can compare. Unless you want to compare 6990 performance versus two GTX580s in SLi.

At $550 for a GTX 580 or $600 for a HD 6990 why can't you compare the two? A $500 HD 5970 still out performs a GTX 580 at the same price point.

A GTX 580 SLI is $1000 so that wouldn't be fair to compare $1000 worth of performance versus $500 worth of performance. That's like comparing a Porche 911 Turbo S to a Ford Mustang GT.

AMD doesn't care about the set-up (single gpu/ dual gpu) I see AMD competing at PRICE POINTS like most companies do. For Example AMD 6 core $300 CPU's compete with Intels 4 core $300 core i7s and not Intels $1000 6 Core i7

Price Points!!
Blackie Chan 15th December 2010, 07:00 Quote
Wow! You guys get reamed in the UK for prices. I'm sorry.
Digi 15th December 2010, 07:14 Quote
Damn, was heavily anticipating something to stand out, if only by a few fps. I am a red team fan boy though so I hope it's a temporary blip. It's not like these cards are BAD and the 570 hasn't been out long which means that, although it got the jump in terms of release time, it's still fairly similar and in the same price bracket.

That's a funny thing actually - how do you think it would have been if ATI released these cards BEFORE nvidia released the 570 (even 580)? Do you think this would have changed the perspective?
Goty 15th December 2010, 07:23 Quote
Better efficiency and better performance all around, so there' not much to hate here. This is basically the 4870/4850 launch all over again.
true_gamer 15th December 2010, 07:27 Quote
I'm so glad I went for 3x 580GTX over waiting for the HD6970!!!
Otis1337 15th December 2010, 07:33 Quote
i am disappoint..... :(
Sloth 15th December 2010, 07:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by ssj12
the 6990 is a dual GPU card... it cant be compared evenly with the GTX580. Now when manufacturers make a deal GPU out of say the GTX560 like they did the GTX460 then we can compare. Unless you want to compare 6990 performance versus two GTX580s in SLi.
Why not? If it's at the same price range then it's an alternative.
frontline 15th December 2010, 07:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by Goty
Better efficiency and better performance all around, so there' not much to hate here. This is basically the 4870/4850 launch all over again.

This. 2 x 4850's were excellent value and 2 x 6950's look to be excellent value compared to a GTX580.
Snips 15th December 2010, 08:01 Quote
WOW this really is hilarious. How deflated could you possibly get? What an epic let down!
wuyanxu 15th December 2010, 08:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Krayzie_B.o.n.e.
Wow very surprising.....NOT if your in the know then you understand that AMD new scheme for the HD 6970 to be on par with the GTx 570 and the HD 6950 top have it's own tier. Once all eye candy is applied with 8x AA 16 AF then the HD 6970 really shines and does come closer to the GTX 580. Tessellation performance has been vastly improved and in the event Developers get real and start using Ray Tracing, the HD 5970 5870 6970 6950 all surpass the GTX 580.

The GTX 580 goes back and forth with the HD 5970 untill the HD 6990 is released but at $350 the HD 6970 is a good deal but so is the GTX 570. Most people will see this a an Nvidia win by not understanding AMD will use the HD 6990 to compete with the GTX 580 at the over $500 a card position. Can't wait to find some CF vs Sli benchmarks.

the review made it clear, it is competing with gtx570, and with AA applied, gtx570 is faster.

where did you pull out 8xAA makes 6970 closer to gtx580? and any evidence on your ray tracing claims?

most people should see this, as written very clearly in the review, a nvidia win by gtx570. gtx580 is not competing at all at this point in time.


great review, very anticlimax after all the delays and hype. it's not even faster than gtx570 in most of the Dx11 titles in the review. :(
GravitySmacked 15th December 2010, 08:03 Quote
Somewhat disappointing but hey ho.
Xtrafresh 15th December 2010, 08:12 Quote
What i want to see is a head-to-head on HD6970 CF vs GTX 570 SLI on triplescreen resolutions. The benchmarks suggest that the HD6970 is getting closer at high resolutions, which is no surprise given it's 2GB memory.

Oh, and please don't make this out to be a fanboy thing, looking for the one thing the D6970 could excel at. I have the triplescreen setup, and am looking to do a jump up in performance from the single 5870 i have now.
Nikols 15th December 2010, 08:14 Quote
New tech sounds promising. Good to see AMD tackle tesselation but it really does look like they got caught with their pants down on this :-(

Relieved with my decision to chuck a gtx580 in my rig. I genuinely thought I'd regret it
wuyanxu 15th December 2010, 08:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh
I have the triplescreen setup, and am looking to do a jump up in performance from the single 5870 i have now.

if you run multiple screens, avoid nvidia if you can. their cards suck up lots power at full 3D clock speed when more than 1 screen is running, and they require SLi for surround.

these 2GB cards will be great for high resolution eyefinity gaming.
mrbens 15th December 2010, 08:38 Quote
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UK price (as reviewed) £310 (inc VAT) MSRP
Might aswell save yourself £60 and get a 480 that performs the same for only £249.99 :)

Although after checking Scan, the prices of both this 6970 and the 570 start at about £278, so I'd go for one of those over the 480.
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