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Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 Review

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slaw 9th November 2010, 14:07 Quote
Now for some overtime!
digitaldunc 9th November 2010, 14:13 Quote
This is what I was hoping to see -- now the gloves are off, lets see what AMD has in store with their high end cards (If they can sort out their rumoured fab problems.)
Dom99 9th November 2010, 14:16 Quote
This card is just a beast and im on the verge of buying one, but as the review says it is foolish to rush in and not wait 13 days for the hd 6970.
Im not keen on the power consumption but I suppose thats what comes with a top of the range card like this, no doubt cayman will be the same. Also driver revisions may also bring sizeable improvements.
Still very impressed at how it matches and surpases the 5970 which is dual GPU, so this card is definitly a better option. I seriously doubt cayman will top this performance wise but maybe with less TDP it could be better option, not sure
lp1988 9th November 2010, 14:16 Quote
someone at Nvidia really got their finger out, finally.

Now I just hope AMD beats this one, but that may be asking for a bit much as they are properly mainly working on getting the 28nm to perform properly.
wuyanxu 9th November 2010, 14:16 Quote
but when ATI's new flagship launch, will there be any gtx580 left to buy?

£400 seems like an excellent deal, for me, it'd be a £200 upgrade when selling my 5870, which means huge tessellation performance increase, large RAM increase and amp memory bandwidth for my 2560x1440 resolution.

hum..... very tempted.
Dom99 9th November 2010, 14:19 Quote
yeh so tempted not to wait for cayman....especially if its delayed
V3ctor 9th November 2010, 14:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by digitaldunc
This is what I was hoping to see -- now the gloves are off, lets see what AMD has in store with their high end cards (If they can sort out their rumoured fab problems.)

Honestly I don't think they have any problems, they are just beeing secretive because they still have to unload all those HD5850/5870 out of the retail channel... Let's just wait a few days for the HD6900 reviews, but if the HD6850/6870 were designed to replace the HD5700 series (at sub 200), I'm thinking of a great, but really great HD6900 series...
memeroot 9th November 2010, 14:30 Quote
So this is the card for me to finally upgrade my 9800gx2 (I want 3d so ati not an option)

and it would seem the price is about right also.
Mraedis 9th November 2010, 14:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lizard
The new Fermi Mk II GPU hits all the performance highs we expected from the GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/11/09/nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-review/1

Ahem. ^^
memeroot 9th November 2010, 14:32 Quote
what overclock?
play_boy_2000 9th November 2010, 14:33 Quote
Looks like just a fixed fermi, so ATI should have the upper hand with the 69xx
play_boy_2000 9th November 2010, 14:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mraedis
Ahem. ^^
no typo

The GTX580 has finally delivered what nvidia promised from the gtx480
Mraedis 9th November 2010, 14:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by play_boy_2000
no typo

The GTX580 has finally delivered what nvidia promised from the gtx480

Makes even more sense then.

Seems like a good GPU overall, but still, pricey!
proxess 9th November 2010, 14:37 Quote
But will it play Gran Turismo 6 when it's out for PC...?
Adnoctum 9th November 2010, 14:39 Quote
So it has the same cluster sizes as the GTX480, and not the revised GTX460? And it has 512 stream processors? The same number that the GTX480 was supposed to launch with?

It's a "fixed" Fermi! This isn't even an updated Fermi 1.5, like the GTX460. It's what Nvidia promised to deliver A YEAR AGO.
leveller 9th November 2010, 14:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by memeroot
So this is the card for me to finally upgrade my 9800gx2 (I want 3d so ati not an option)

and it would seem the price is about right also.

I think ATi now includes 3D.
V3ctor 9th November 2010, 14:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
But will it play Gran Turismo 6 when it's out for PC...?

I don't think you'll be alive by that time...
fingerbob69 9th November 2010, 14:47 Quote
"It's a "fixed" Fermi! This isn't even an updated Fermi 1.5, like the GTX460. It's what Nvidia promised to deliver A YEAR AGO."

^This and the fact every review I've read have all had the caveat of wait and see what AMD's 69xx have to offer in a couple of weeks time. That's got to be disappointing for nVidia.
memeroot 9th November 2010, 14:47 Quote
@leveller
"ATi now includes 3D."

no 3d vision - nvidia = closed system again :-(

still like with physx it does get investment and works (ish)
mi1ez 9th November 2010, 15:00 Quote
Where are the folding figures!
Looks my next card after the prices have leveled out.
earlydoors 9th November 2010, 15:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
So it has the same cluster sizes as the GTX480, and not the revised GTX460? And it has 512 stream processors? The same number that the GTX480 was supposed to launch with?

It's a "fixed" Fermi! This isn't even an updated Fermi 1.5, like the GTX460. It's what Nvidia promised to deliver A YEAR AGO.

They're just doing what all tech manufacturers do. Milking the early adopters until their udders are bone dry & raw.

But, hey, if you're not impatient/rich/dumb ("enthusiastic") enough to buy early, it shouldn't be a problem.
Adnoctum 9th November 2010, 15:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Article
Perhaps this layout will change with TSMC’s 25nm process, but that’s not due until halfway through 2011...

28nm.
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Originally Posted by digitaldunc
This is what I was hoping to see -- now the gloves are off, lets see what AMD has in store with their high end cards (If they can sort out their rumoured fab problems.)

The rumour started by some unknown blogger over on Techeye, and was propagated by that fraud at Fudzilla.
It seems that BIOSes and samples were tardy in turning up at OEMs from AMD (2) and someone added (???) to make ("AMD can't make Cayman"), and Fuad takes the speculation from there. Whether it is true or not, I don't know and don't much care, but I can think of several reasons why BIOSes might not have been finalised two or three weeks ago, one of which has been reviewed here today.
You won't have to wait long to see whether it is true or not.

Regarding the yields, I find it difficult to believe, if only because this isn't AMD's first dance with TSMC's 40nm process. This will have been their 3rd architecture using 40nm: 4770, 5xxx and 6xxx. It couldn't possibly be as low as Fuad is claiming.
I also note that in my region (YMMV) although there are some brands and models of 6850/6870 are sold out, there are still plenty out there to buy. If yields were as abysmal as Fuad is claiming, there should be very few of these around.

Incidentally, the GTX580 should have been called the GTX485, seeing as it is basically the same card.
It is still out of my league though. What on earth would I play on it at 1920x1200? I don't want 3D, nor multi-monitor gaming. I'll be looking at what happens on the prices of GTX460/58xx/68xx cards.
maverik-sg1 9th November 2010, 15:05 Quote
Yes finally a fermi card I can belive and and use - I will be getting one of these :)
mecblade 9th November 2010, 15:11 Quote
Finally, Nvidia has produced a high end GPU (in the fermi series, and im counting 460 as a mid range) worth buying! Ill be interested in AMD's (ATI FOREVER!) response to this. However the power consumption is still incredibly high, even if it is lower than the 480.
Tangster 9th November 2010, 15:11 Quote
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Even Nvidia sees the 32 layout as a less efficient design, but we suspect that it’s not possible to get four GPCs (Graphics Processing Clusters) with four SMs each onto a die small enough to actually make if each SM contained 32 stream processors rather than 32.

Typo guys, I think you meant 48.
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