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ATI Radeon HD 6850 Review

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GoodBytes 22nd October 2010, 05:13 Quote
How about noise level? That small vent whole is bound to make more noise, as air pass faster, is what I am guessing.
leexgx 22nd October 2010, 06:11 Quote
sneeky with theses cards been posted now :)
docodine 22nd October 2010, 07:08 Quote
"ATI has said previously that it worried that the difference in name between a single-GPU HD 3870 and a dual-GPU HD 3890 wasn’t enough to justify the large price difference"

Wasn't it the 3870 X2?
Zeus-Nolan 22nd October 2010, 07:26 Quote
Is it a worthy upgrade from a overclocked 4890? 1ghz gpu and 4ghz mem? or would a 6870 be better? im talking bang-per-buck (or pound)
CowBlazed 22nd October 2010, 07:34 Quote
Does it really make sense to have 2 separate reviews for these cards?
ADJB 22nd October 2010, 07:48 Quote
Where's Crysis?.

My next card (I run a 4850 at the moment) will be in the £100 - £150 price range and will be the first card that can run Crysis. Yes, its an old game, yes, its a DX10 game but that doesn't mean it still isn't a good standard to judge cards against. Even at the very top end how many cards can run this game at top quality and decent resolution, none to not many, so if its still such a hard challenge for games I don't see why its been dropped as a judging standard,

By your own recent commentsa it's the first "benchmark" the majority of people turn to so I can't be on my own thinking its a solid standard.
Ph4ZeD 22nd October 2010, 07:53 Quote
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 22nd October 2010, 08:33 Quote
Great review Bit-Tech but.........
I really want to thank you guys very much for using Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead as one of the benchmarks.
It's a great looking game and I appreciate you guys adding it to your testing.
bout wet myself when I saw that.
Tim S 22nd October 2010, 09:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by docodine
"ATI has said previously that it worried that the difference in name between a single-GPU HD 3870 and a dual-GPU HD 3890 wasn’t enough to justify the large price difference"

Wasn't it the 3870 X2?
Yes it was. The 5970 was the first dual GPU Radeon to drop the X2 moniker
Bonzo45 22nd October 2010, 09:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by ADJB
Where's Crysis?.

My next card (I run a 4850 at the moment) will be in the £100 - £150 price range and will be the first card that can run Crysis. Yes, its an old game, yes, its a DX10 game but that doesn't mean it still isn't a good standard to judge cards against. Even at the very top end how many cards can run this game at top quality and decent resolution, none to not many, so if its still such a hard challenge for games I don't see why its been dropped as a judging standard,

By your own recent commentsa it's the first "benchmark" the majority of people turn to so I can't be on my own thinking its a solid standard.

+1 - Was looking for this as well! Glad to see ARMAII up there, though - that's a quality game. Probably a pretty balanced set of games up there to be honest, but surely there's room for Crysis!?
bagman 22nd October 2010, 09:39 Quote
wow that was disappointing from the 6850 i thought it was going to do quite a bit better!!

and how well does it overclock? and why no crysis?
Senilex 22nd October 2010, 10:02 Quote
AMD Radeon guys, not ATI Radeon, how can you make such a poor mistake?
r3loaded 22nd October 2010, 10:29 Quote
Since the prices are so similar, I'd go for Team Green, due to their reputation for better drivers, and far better folding performance.
Xir 22nd October 2010, 10:41 Quote
+1 for crysis.
yes, it's old, but it's still THE raw-graphics-power-eater

Looking forward to the price-war (though that will mean I'll have to wait a bit more)
PlayedStation 22nd October 2010, 10:46 Quote
So I'm looking at buying a sub £150 graphics card next week for my new build. I Was almost certain I was going for the 460 768mb and now this comes out.

What would you guys go for? I'm buying it on wednesday next week... maybe pricing will settle by then?
Lizard 22nd October 2010, 11:11 Quote
For everybody asking about us not including Crysis in our benchmark suite anymore, there are several very good reasons for not doing so:

1. Crysis is a 3 year old game that a) never sold very well and b) according to all the stats we've seen very few people play these days.
2. Crysis is so poorly optimised that its unlikely to ever run particularly well on any hardware in the forseable future, especially as...
3. ATI and Nvidia both gave up optimising their hardware and drivers for this old, not very popular game a long time ago.

Instead, we'd rather focus our attention on games that people are playing, as that ultimately is what matters.
bogie170 22nd October 2010, 11:17 Quote
I can't wait for the HD6950, HD6970, and HD6990(x2?) reviews.

Any ideas when the release dates are for these cards?
murraynt 22nd October 2010, 11:33 Quote
I can see why bit-tech didnt use crysis, but the only problem is for people like me.
I own a 4850, i can not compare any of there bench marks to my 4850.
Time to do some benchmarks
Great review Bit-tech,Fair and unbiased as usual
Archandel 22nd October 2010, 11:40 Quote
Wait for the review of the retail cards. Asus 6850 hitting 1000MHz on Core, and stable. These new cards from AMD are absolutely BONKERS! Goodbye nVidia, I can't say im gonna miss you...

I feel a new 4850 on the horizon! AMD FTW!
impar 22nd October 2010, 11:41 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by CowBlazed
Does it really make sense to have 2 separate reviews for these cards?
No. Just gets cross talk between threads.
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Originally Posted by ADJB
Where's Crysis?
Warhead:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-6850-renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market/6
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Originally Posted by bagman
and why no crysis?
Lizard justifies Crysis removal:
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=2457630#post2457630
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Originally Posted by Xir
+1 for crysis.
+1
Claave 22nd October 2010, 11:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by Senilex
AMD Radeon guys, not ATI Radeon, how can you make such a poor mistake?

Hey Senilex. Obviously we hear what you're saying, but all the branding around the card and it's driver is ATI rather than AMD. Also, far more people Google search for ATI Radeon than AMD Radeon at the moment, and as we want as many people to read our reviews as possible we choose to call these cards ATI Radeons.

We're planning to drop the ATI brand from our articles when AMD launches Fusion, so you have until then to change AMD's driver branding and everyone's search habits! :)
LeMaltor 22nd October 2010, 12:00 Quote
No Crysis benchmark, ow dear ow dear
TWeaK 22nd October 2010, 12:24 Quote
I feel quite sorry for AMD here, because if it wasn't for TSMC failing to deliver both these cards would be cheaper and trounce Nvidia. Still, at least some board partners are managing to price to a good budget.

Those wearing tinfoil hats might think that Nvidia pulled an Intel with TSMC to cut AMD of at the source.
javaman 22nd October 2010, 12:51 Quote
On page 1:
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While the HD 6860 is slated to drop into shops at £150

Should it be 6850?

On page 3:
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At the moment there are very few displays that ATI’s version of 3D.

That sentence doesn't totally make sense.

So this is just a refresh with a few new added features and a new generation name?I wonder how the 32nm Node would of changed things. Possibly higher clock speeds and better power numbers? Unless ATI improve folding performance my next setup will be Nvidia and ill hold out to their next generation when the midrange gets a bit of extra performance.
Xir 22nd October 2010, 14:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lizard
Instead, we'd rather focus our attention on games that people are playing, as that ultimately is what matters.

Shame that that doesn't allow to put the performance into (retro)perspective
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