I read on another forum that the 6000 series is due to launch in November, with price cuts across the 5000 range shortly, so now is probably not the best time to be picking up a card? Maybe the 460 in the sub £200 range, but then if the 5850 drops to the same sort of price or lower in the next few weeks... The end of the year could be a good time for GPU purchasing.
Meh, the cool and silent Sapphire VaporX is 375euros, the 2GB variant is 400euros.
This one (isnt available in Germany) is in between those two. So it's not very attractive.
And yes, as stated in the intro, it's the dissappointing Fermi's that are keeping the prices up.
Originally Posted by frontline I read on another forum that the 6000 series is due to launch in November, with price cuts across the 5000 range shortly, so now is probably not the best time to be picking up a card?
This would be nice, let's hope the 6000 series keeps up the comparative performance levels of the 5000 series. A sub 300 EUR 5870 would be nice, as I really can't justify the purchase at present prices since my GTX 275 isn't holding anything back tbh.
Shame on the Asus' card though. I can't see why they even bother to bring out a card like that.
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While Asus should be commended for producing a card with a custom PCB
Couldn't really disagree with you more. Custom PCB are a real pain if you're about to watercool your card or use some other aftermarket cooling solution. I'm still angry at myself for getting Asus GTX275 :(
While Asus should be commended for producing a card with a custom PCB
Couldn't really disagree with you more. Custom PCB are a real pain if you're about to watercool your card or use some other aftermarket cooling solution. I'm still angry at myself for getting Asus GTX275 :([/QUOTE]
Sorry, it was meant as a "shorter custom PCB." I mention the annoying waterblock incompatibility on the first page of the review.
due to baffling inadequacies such as not being unable to smoothly drag the application around and only being adjust overclocks using the mouse and not the arrow keys
Not being *unable*? Interesting. ;)
And I think there's a word missing before adjust - able perhaps?
due to baffling inadequacies such as not being unable to smoothly drag the application around and only being adjust overclocks using the mouse and not the arrow keys
Not being *unable*? Interesting. ;)
And I think there's a word missing before adjust - able perhaps?
/grammer nazi
It's spelt grammar!
/spelling nazi :D
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn All in all this card is actually well disappointing but damn does that heatsink look cool. :)
Nice selection of games tested, nice write-up, nice review bit-tech!
@frontline - The latest rumours are an october announcement followed by a november release. My spidey-senses tell me to expect a small nudge in performance with much higher ddr5 speeds. If it will have the uncore of a future 28nm part as rumoured than it should be able to handle much higher memory speeds. The fastest ddr5 modules are rated for 1500mhz I believe so I reckon around 1475mhz on the 6000 series will be likely.
Nope your wrong there, I use a reverse ATX standard where the CPU is at the bottom and the cards at the top, effectively flipping the board upside down so yes I can see the heatsinks but I water cool anyways, also use a test bench where the cards are visible.
As for custom PCB, ASUS did that with the 4870 Dark Knight series but I was able to cut and modify EK full coverage blocks to work with it so Im sure any configuration they come up with you could still cool it using a stand a long GPU block and then air cooling the ram.
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn Nope your wrong there, I use a reverse ATX standard where the CPU is at the bottom and the cards at the top, effectively flipping the board upside down so yes I can see the heatsinks but I water cool anyways, also use a test bench where the cards are visible.
As for custom PCB, ASUS did that with the 4870 Dark Knight series but I was able to cut and modify EK full coverage blocks to work with it so Im sure any configuration they come up with you could still cool it using a stand a long GPU block and then air cooling the ram.
Ek have actually made a proper block for this card - you can get it from aquatuning :D
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn Nope your wrong there, I use a reverse ATX standard where the CPU is at the bottom and the cards at the top, effectively flipping the board upside down so yes I can see the heatsinks but I water cool anyways, also use a test bench where the cards are visible.
As for custom PCB, ASUS did that with the 4870 Dark Knight series but I was able to cut and modify EK full coverage blocks to work with it so Im sure any configuration they come up with you could still cool it using a stand a long GPU block and then air cooling the ram.
Ek have actually made a proper block for this card - you can get it from aquatuning :D
No I was talking about the 4870 Dark Night. card not this card thats been reviewed.
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn As for custom PCB, ASUS did that with the 4870 Dark Knight series but I was able to cut and modify EK full coverage blocks to work with it so Im sure any configuration they come up with you could still cool it using a stand a long GPU block and then air cooling the ram.
Yea, standalone block is (almost) allways an option, I was referring to fullcover cheesecake.
And tbh I'm not really excited about chopping up 85+ EUR waterblock ;)
EK does make a dedicated block for this card, though I can't really see the point for getting non-reference cooling solution and replace it waterblock, unless the card in question is cheaper, which, to my knowledge, this isn't.
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn As for custom PCB, ASUS did that with the 4870 Dark Knight series but I was able to cut and modify EK full coverage blocks to work with it so Im sure any configuration they come up with you could still cool it using a stand a long GPU block and then air cooling the ram.
Yea, standalone block is (almost) allways an option, I was referring to fullcover cheesecake.
And tbh I'm not really excited about chopping up 85+ EUR waterblock ;)
EK does make a dedicated block for this card, though I can't really see the point for getting non-reference cooling solution and replace it waterblock, unless the card in question is cheaper, which, to my knowledge, this isn't.
ya I think Im done with full coverage blocks and plan to go back to GPU cooled water blocks because those at least have a better lifespan of being able to go from card to card, they may not look as cool but the pocket book would be grateful lol.
Originally Posted by SaNdCrAwLeR 2x 460GTX 768MB -> 10 pounds more... but FAAAAAR superior to this piece of *bleep*
2 of them? for 30" screens yes, but then better the 1GB version.
For a 1920x1080 / 1920x1200 Screen or less one of them will be enough for any current Game (and with most games being console ports I don't see hw requirements increasing too soon).
Ati really needs to adjust their pricing to reality, the 5xx0 series launched ages ago and have we seen any significant pricedrops? no.
Originally Posted by Anfield Ati really needs to adjust their pricing to reality, the 5xx0 series launched ages ago and have we seen any significant pricedrops? no.
Compared to nVidia, ATI is still cheaper thus why no price drop and given how crappy firmi has been there really is no reason for once for ATI to drop prices, but wait a few months and the 6 series will come out and then you will see price drops.
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn Nope your wrong there, I use a reverse ATX standard where the CPU is at the bottom and the cards at the top, effectively flipping the board upside down so yes I can see the heatsinks but I water cool anyways, also use a test bench where the cards are visible.
As for custom PCB, ASUS did that with the 4870 Dark Knight series but I was able to cut and modify EK full coverage blocks to work with it so Im sure any configuration they come up with you could still cool it using a stand a long GPU block and then air cooling the ram.
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ReplyThis one (isnt available in Germany) is in between those two. So it's not very attractive.
And yes, as stated in the intro, it's the dissappointing Fermi's that are keeping the prices up.
This would be nice, let's hope the 6000 series keeps up the comparative performance levels of the 5000 series. A sub 300 EUR 5870 would be nice, as I really can't justify the purchase at present prices since my GTX 275 isn't holding anything back tbh.
Shame on the Asus' card though. I can't see why they even bother to bring out a card like that.
Couldn't really disagree with you more. Custom PCB are a real pain if you're about to watercool your card or use some other aftermarket cooling solution. I'm still angry at myself for getting Asus GTX275 :(
Couldn't really disagree with you more. Custom PCB are a real pain if you're about to watercool your card or use some other aftermarket cooling solution. I'm still angry at myself for getting Asus GTX275 :([/QUOTE]
Sorry, it was meant as a "shorter custom PCB." I mention the annoying waterblock incompatibility on the first page of the review.
Not being *unable*? Interesting. ;)
And I think there's a word missing before adjust - able perhaps?
/grammer nazi
It's spelt grammar!
/spelling nazi :D
You won't see that when its upside down in your case tho. The side of graphics cards you can actually see always look boring. They should but a snazzy LED lit top on them but it'd probably affect temps.http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1287/asus_gtx470_back.jpg
@frontline - The latest rumours are an october announcement followed by a november release. My spidey-senses tell me to expect a small nudge in performance with much higher ddr5 speeds. If it will have the uncore of a future 28nm part as rumoured than it should be able to handle much higher memory speeds. The fastest ddr5 modules are rated for 1500mhz I believe so I reckon around 1475mhz on the 6000 series will be likely.
if its no faster than the 5870 ( memory bandwidth on gpus is rarely the case for fps problems exept at eyeinfinity rez)
i dout we will see the 5970 sudenly been beating by the 6870 or whatever they call it
Nope your wrong there, I use a reverse ATX standard where the CPU is at the bottom and the cards at the top, effectively flipping the board upside down so yes I can see the heatsinks but I water cool anyways, also use a test bench where the cards are visible.
As for custom PCB, ASUS did that with the 4870 Dark Knight series but I was able to cut and modify EK full coverage blocks to work with it so Im sure any configuration they come up with you could still cool it using a stand a long GPU block and then air cooling the ram.
Ek have actually made a proper block for this card - you can get it from aquatuning :D
No I was talking about the 4870 Dark Night. card not this card thats been reviewed.
This Asus 5870 is no better than a reference card.
Yea, standalone block is (almost) allways an option, I was referring to fullcover cheesecake.
And tbh I'm not really excited about chopping up 85+ EUR waterblock ;)
EK does make a dedicated block for this card, though I can't really see the point for getting non-reference cooling solution and replace it waterblock, unless the card in question is cheaper, which, to my knowledge, this isn't.
Right up until you play a game that requires 769mb of vram. :p
You are right though, GTX460 in SLI (even the 768mb variety) offers excellent performance for the outlay.
One could also say that a single HD5850 (£220ish) overclocked to 900/5000 would be faster than this card as well.
ya I think Im done with full coverage blocks and plan to go back to GPU cooled water blocks because those at least have a better lifespan of being able to go from card to card, they may not look as cool but the pocket book would be grateful lol.
2 of them? for 30" screens yes, but then better the 1GB version.
For a 1920x1080 / 1920x1200 Screen or less one of them will be enough for any current Game (and with most games being console ports I don't see hw requirements increasing too soon).
Ati really needs to adjust their pricing to reality, the 5xx0 series launched ages ago and have we seen any significant pricedrops? no.
Compared to nVidia, ATI is still cheaper thus why no price drop and given how crappy firmi has been there really is no reason for once for ATI to drop prices, but wait a few months and the 6 series will come out and then you will see price drops.
Well, apart from you, everybody else sees this: :D http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1287/asus_gtx470_back.jpg
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