A Good card for a full HD HTC which also lets you play at high res.
What about its hdmi-audio extra features ?
Did not find the ambiant Lab. temperature ?
Same Q as above; Which Intel or Amd CPU may limits it (in case of an upgrade)
Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan I have a request. Is it possible to make some benchmarks on a AMD configuration. Not everyone can afford a top of the line Intel I7 rig see. It would be nice for the middle man among us to see how it hold up on this.
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Originally Posted by d1ck0 totally agree , why carnt we have a comparative test of a average users setup ? , now THAT'S real world testing.
Because the "average user" setup, as you put it, wouldn't hold up to scrutiny. Imagine a situation where performance was bottlenecked so heavily by a CPU, that every card delivered identical frame rates in every resolution, at every quality setting, across every game.
Using the i7-965, the 6GB RAM, the SSD, etc, means the system is seriously unlikely to bottleneck - this is essentially the fastest system money can buy. If your system is slowing down your new £300 graphics card that badly, then you shouldn't be buying £300 graphics cards. These graphs present clear advice - X card is better than Y card at your settings - instead of just having a lot of straight flat graphs, and the conclusion will never end up being "Wow, this Radeon 5970 Crossfire setup is giving the same performance as a 9500GT!"
Originally Posted by MaverickWill Because the "average user" setup, as you put it, wouldn't hold up to scrutiny. Imagine a situation where performance was bottlenecked so heavily by a CPU, that every card delivered identical frame rates in every resolution, at every quality setting, across every game.
Using the i7-965, the 6GB RAM, the SSD, etc, means the system is seriously unlikely to bottleneck - this is essentially the fastest system money can buy. If your system is slowing down your new £300 graphics card that badly, then you shouldn't be buying £300 graphics cards. These graphs present clear advice - X card is better than Y card at your settings - instead of just having a lot of straight flat graphs, and the conclusion will never end up being "Wow, this Radeon 5970 Crossfire setup is giving the same performance as a 9500GT!"
Oh, and d1ck0, welcome to the forums. :-)
Very well said maverick.
You forgot one point - Can't have a test system that is inferior to all to other hardware sites which are all using i7 testbeds for benching :D
You really need to send the games you're testing in straight to the bin. Of the games you include, the one game thats even remotely interesting nowadays is DoW2, because of it's CF issues. Perhaps you should look into more relevant titles, like Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2, Borderlands, Dragon Age: Origins etc etc and so on? Knowing how you like to accomodate your readers, I'm looking forward to a remake of this particular review. Cheers!
Originally Posted by bob_lewis Excellent review, as always.
BUT!
You really need to send the games you're testing in straight to the bin. Of the games you include, the one game thats even remotely interesting nowadays is DoW2, because of it's CF issues. Perhaps you should look into more relevant titles, like Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2, Borderlands, Dragon Age: Origins etc etc and so on? Knowing how you like to accomodate your readers, I'm looking forward to a remake of this particular review. Cheers!
Because Crysis is still the most demanding game, and because STALKER:CS scales well at high resolutions. MW2 is just the same as COD4, which was never the most demanding game (can you even benchmark in MW2? is it balanced for that?:D), Borderlands is a UT3 engine game but because of the unique gfx style you cant test AA/AF properly (i think HOCP had an experience with this).
Also, you tend to stick with games as you build up a database of review scores, meaning like-for-like comparisons are easy.
the single gpu hd5870 increases the delta T by 25 degrees. if you pass that same exhaust over the 2nd gpu of the hd5970 it will increase by another 25 degrees. rather simplistic but you get the idea.
Originally Posted by barndoor101 the single gpu hd5870 increases the delta T by 25 degrees. if you pass that same exhaust over the 2nd gpu of the hd5970 it will increase by another 25 degrees. rather simplistic but you get the idea.
Hmm, I don't think we're on the same track - my question was: Why is the standard ATI Radeon HD 5870 listed as having a delta T of 25 degrees in two other Bit Tech reviews and a delta T of 50 degrees in this one? I mentioned the HD 5970 review as that also lists the HD 5870 in its heat performance chart.
Originally Posted by Lobosolitario Hmm, I don't think we're on the same track - my question was: Why is the standard ATI Radeon HD 5870 listed as having a delta T of 25 degrees in two other Bit Tech reviews and a delta T of 50 degrees in this one? I mentioned the HD 5970 review as that also lists the HD 5870 in its heat performance chart.
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ReplyWhat about its hdmi-audio extra features ?
Did not find the ambiant Lab. temperature ?
Same Q as above; Which Intel or Amd CPU may limits it (in case of an upgrade)
Because the "average user" setup, as you put it, wouldn't hold up to scrutiny. Imagine a situation where performance was bottlenecked so heavily by a CPU, that every card delivered identical frame rates in every resolution, at every quality setting, across every game.
Using the i7-965, the 6GB RAM, the SSD, etc, means the system is seriously unlikely to bottleneck - this is essentially the fastest system money can buy. If your system is slowing down your new £300 graphics card that badly, then you shouldn't be buying £300 graphics cards. These graphs present clear advice - X card is better than Y card at your settings - instead of just having a lot of straight flat graphs, and the conclusion will never end up being "Wow, this Radeon 5970 Crossfire setup is giving the same performance as a 9500GT!"
Oh, and d1ck0, welcome to the forums. :-)
Very well said maverick.
You forgot one point - Can't have a test system that is inferior to all to other hardware sites which are all using i7 testbeds for benching :D
BUT!
You really need to send the games you're testing in straight to the bin. Of the games you include, the one game thats even remotely interesting nowadays is DoW2, because of it's CF issues. Perhaps you should look into more relevant titles, like Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2, Borderlands, Dragon Age: Origins etc etc and so on? Knowing how you like to accomodate your readers, I'm looking forward to a remake of this particular review. Cheers!
Because Crysis is still the most demanding game, and because STALKER:CS scales well at high resolutions. MW2 is just the same as COD4, which was never the most demanding game (can you even benchmark in MW2? is it balanced for that?:D), Borderlands is a UT3 engine game but because of the unique gfx style you cant test AA/AF properly (i think HOCP had an experience with this).
Also, you tend to stick with games as you build up a database of review scores, meaning like-for-like comparisons are easy.
Hmm, I don't think we're on the same track - my question was: Why is the standard ATI Radeon HD 5870 listed as having a delta T of 25 degrees in two other Bit Tech reviews and a delta T of 50 degrees in this one? I mentioned the HD 5970 review as that also lists the HD 5870 in its heat performance chart.
oh right. well spotted.
bindi? why is the peak temp in this review (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/12/01/sapphire-radeon-hd-5870-1gb-vapor-x-review/8) 50 degrees whereas the other 2 are 25 degrees? (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/10/20/asus-ati-radeon-hd-5870-volt-tweak-review/9)
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