Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]What i see:

All of the Game benches are won by the ATI HD4870 X2 2GB
The only Application bench (folding at home) is won by Nvidia cards
And in the power consumption part the ATI HD4870 X2 2GB is left out of it. (probably because it has higher power usage then anything else)

IMHO you should have left out the ATI Dualcore card completely, now people will get the wrong idea. Without it Nvidia wins.
Infact you should have left out all the ATI card and other Nvidia cards and only compare the Non watercooled GTX285 to the MSI watercooled GTX285.

Originally Posted by SiliconDoc

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Originally Posted by Baz

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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]What i see:

All of the Game benches are won by the ATI HD4870 X2 2GB
The only Application bench (folding at home) is won by Nvidia cards
And in the power consumption part the ATI HD4870 X2 2GB is left out of it. (probably because it has higher power usage then anything else)

IMHO you should have left out the ATI Dualcore card completely, now people will get the wrong idea. Without it Nvidia wins.
Infact you should have left out all the ATI card and other Nvidia cards and only compare the Non watercooled GTX285 to the MSI watercooled GTX285.

If we didn't include the HD 4870X2, it would make for an extremely misleading article. It's in there to demonstrate that for less cash, you can get a significant amount more performance. An HD 4870X2 can be had for less than £250 - thats less than the watercooler GTX 285. Of course, the watercooled card will be quieter and cooler, but if all you want is performance, a reader needs to know what else is out there - that;s why we have all these fancy graph engines and stuff, so show you what else is available!

That's an amazing conclusion. I look at page 13 when the water cooled nvidia card is finally overclocked, and comparing the frames to the 4870x2 results on page 5 for the same game at the same rez and settings, the 4870x2 LOSES, scoring a 44.0, while the GTX285 TAKES THE WIN with 50.7 frames.
LOL
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It is amazing to me how badly nearly the entire internet is filled with ati red rooster card slant articles. I talk to some of those raving reds sometimes, and what eventually comes out is their intense hatred for NVidia, for some reason they state - one was "hurting the schoolchildren because die substrate on some laptop cards was faulty and NVidia fixed the situaton by replacing the fan with one more powerful." Then the person went on a raving ranting loonfest telling me he would like to beat nvidia reps to death after telling them how to properly do their jobs.
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It's funny, on the last page - the conclusion in this article, the author whines about the GTX285 not being overclocked out of the box, pretending that someone using water cooling is not inherently an overclocking fanatic, especially with this high end of a card. He babbles on that "if overclocking is your thing you might like this card".... that even as on the same single page showing the massive overclock even the dissing tester got out of it - the author compares it only to itself.
LOL
IT BEAT THE 4870X2 BY QUITE A LOT - all you have to do is look at the info the author provided, but covered up with separation and complaints.
If find the bias and predjudice quite amazing- and it is nearly everywhere.
Why does the article put up the 4890 xxx TOXIC, and a 4870x2, but no overclocked 285 and no 295 ? I know why, we all know why, but then again lying and hating is just the way some people are, always, and they never come clean. What comes next is another pile and bale of total horse crap, no doubt.
ATI has been losing a BILLION a year, every year, while NVidia has made a profit - so don't believe that crap about the smaller ati core making them money, or causing nvidia to collapse.
Those dorks yakking up that red lie never thought for a second the card manufacturers might pay ATI substantially less for the tiny hot core they know costs less to make than the giant hated "brute force" nvidia core. LOL THEY HAVE FLUNKED DAY 1 OF GRADE SCHOOL ECONOMICS as they cheered and jeered stomping around lying for ati.
It's amazing how STUPID the great geeky headed fans are.
Have a nice day - hopefully your eyes were opened a bit.

Originally Posted by SiliconDoc

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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]What i see:

All of the Game benches are won by the ATI HD4870 X2 2GB
The only Application bench (folding at home) is won by Nvidia cards
And in the power consumption part the ATI HD4870 X2 2GB is left out of it. (probably because it has higher power usage then anything else)

IMHO you should have left out the ATI Dualcore card completely, now people will get the wrong idea. Without it Nvidia wins.
Infact you should have left out all the ATI card and other Nvidia cards and only compare the Non watercooled GTX285 to the MSI watercooled GTX285.

Check the overlcocked page on the WATERBLOCKED card, it's near dead last, right before the whining ending - and you'll see the 4870x2 LOSES EVERY GAME TEST.
Thank for playing, and being utterly duped.