So this is the card to go if you don't want to overclock, right?
Slightly better temps, quieter, less power hungry, same performance. Sounds good to me.
Also, Fudzilla's review of the Gainward GTX 260 GS, sporting the same cooler, suggested the card was more powerhungry than the reference card, because it never dropped to the special 2D mode. That seems to have changed here?
Originally Posted by azrael- Isn't this card identical to Gainward's offering?
Palit = Gainward, same company, they just release cards under both brands. yes, otherwise they are identical.
Insofar as power consumption, yep, the firmware worked perfectly and the card's idle power consumption was exactly what we've come to expect from GT-200.
always a bit sad, seeing new shiny cards. they always outperform my 4850 and are not that much more expensive. but at the time the 4850 was the way to go. so i did.
i think i'll add another soon enough. and for all those anti-crossfire/sli rebels: i am kind of a ATI fanboy. so i'll go crossfire.
Originally Posted by alpaca always a bit sad, seeing new shiny cards. they always outperform my 4850 and are not that much more expensive. but at the time the 4850 was the way to go. so i did.
i think i'll add another soon enough. and for all those anti-crossfire/sli rebels: i am kind of a ATI fanboy. so i'll go crossfire.
I'd just hang on to that HD4850. It won't be that long until DX11 cards hit the market and I'd expect your HD4850 will work just fine until then.
very good card, extremely tempted to ditch my card on the bay and add £50 for this one......... can't decide!
I know it's briliant. My Palit 275 arrived today in the post from Novatech, and a copy of Far Cry 2 is a very nice extra as I would have probally brought it anyway. I'm so glad it got a good review, as I was worried that it wouldn't be as good as a normall 275.
Edit: To big up Nova techs delivery, I selected the free 3-4days, and it arrived the next day (allthough I was asleep yesterday, so they redelivered today).
I bought one from Novatech as well. The card is great. Maybe I'm just a sucker for these things, but I do like the way the fans ramp up to full speed as the PC boots, and then slow down. Makes the PC sound like it's about to take off!
During gaming I haven't noticed the fan noise though, so either the card isn't getting hot enough to turn up the fan speed, or my speakers are turned up too loud to notice ;)
Its remarkable that all the new NVIDA beta driver game improvements, are allmost all the games BT uses for benchmarking:
From Nvidia 185.65 beta release note:
* Up to 11% performance increase in Call of Duty: World at War
* Up to 5% performance increase Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
* Up to 22% performance increase Crysis: Warhead with antialiasing enabled
* Up to 11% performance increase in Fallout 3 with antialiasing enabled
* Up to 14% performance increase in Far Cry 2
* Up to 45% performance increase in Mirror’s Edge with antialiasing enabled
From Nidia 182.50 WHQL release note:
* Up to 8% performance increase in Fallout 3 at high resolution and AA.
* Up to 10% performance increase in F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin.
* Up to 9% performance increase in Half-Life 2 at high resolution with AA.
* Up to 11% performance increase in Left 4 Dead at high resolution with AA.
* Up to 10% performance increase in Race Driver: GRID at high resolution and AA.
Note the 45% increase of Mirrors edge. If it was benched at 30fps it would now be at 43fps
I like PALiT a lot, but their American division seems to have given up. Its too bad i have a 9600GT Sonic 1GB mostly for the fatc it has some gaming power and has a ton of connections for me to use.
Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan Its remarkable that all the new NVIDA beta driver game improvements, are allmost all the games BT uses for benchmarking:
Note the 45% increase of Mirrors edge. If it was benched at 30fps it would now be at 43fps
We take the most popular selling games and so do they. It's not a secret sauce. :)
I imagine both ATI and Nvidia keep a master list of benchmarks, settings and resolutions tested by all of the top publications (it'd be what I'd do if I was running their marketing dept and performance lab)... that'll be where a lot of the driver focus goes. I imagine the list of improved titles would change if a decent section of influential sites started using different or more obscure games.
Wasn't the first batch of 275's cherry picked (or so they said at the time) ? for the reviewers pleasure ?
I seem to remeber some sites not getting any (HardOCP...) ?
Originally Posted by Evildead666 Wasn't the first batch of 275's cherry picked (or so they said at the time) ? for the reviewers pleasure ?
I seem to remeber some sites not getting any (HardOCP...) ?
I think that was the GTS 250 - we didn't get one either.
Originally Posted by Tim S I imagine both ATI and Nvidia keep a master list of benchmarks, settings and resolutions tested by all of the top publications (it'd be what I'd do if I was running their marketing dept and performance lab)... that'll be where a lot of the driver focus goes. I imagine the list of improved titles would change if a decent section of influential sites started using different or more obscure games.
Also, our choice of test games is at least partially influenced by the popularity of games currently being bought and played. Quite a few of the test games have been in the top 10 games chart for a while now, while other games are firm favourites of ours (and, hopefully, yours too). Then there are games such as Crysis and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. which pick themselves as benchmark games because of their high hardware demands (when will we see the first sub £200 card to play Crysis at Very High detail is something we're all interested in).
There's almost certainly an cynical 'let's win the benchmarks' element to driver-based performance improvements (especially if the driver only improves 3DMark!) but the performance updates should also deliver extra speed for the thousands of people who enjoy playing any games that gets an update.
Hopefully that doesn't sound too much like I'm sitting on the fence... :D
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ReplySlightly better temps, quieter, less power hungry, same performance. Sounds good to me.
Also, Fudzilla's review of the Gainward GTX 260 GS, sporting the same cooler, suggested the card was more powerhungry than the reference card, because it never dropped to the special 2D mode. That seems to have changed here?
Palit = Gainward, same company, they just release cards under both brands. yes, otherwise they are identical.
Insofar as power consumption, yep, the firmware worked perfectly and the card's idle power consumption was exactly what we've come to expect from GT-200.
i think i'll add another soon enough. and for all those anti-crossfire/sli rebels: i am kind of a ATI fanboy. so i'll go crossfire.
in stock and gives you a Far Cry 2 ;)
very good card, extremely tempted to ditch my card on the bay and add £50 for this one......... can't decide!
Thanks for the review ;)
It's not worth the upgrade from a 260 imo.
I know it's briliant. My Palit 275 arrived today in the post from Novatech, and a copy of Far Cry 2 is a very nice extra as I would have probally brought it anyway. I'm so glad it got a good review, as I was worried that it wouldn't be as good as a normall 275.
Edit: To big up Nova techs delivery, I selected the free 3-4days, and it arrived the next day (allthough I was asleep yesterday, so they redelivered today).
During gaming I haven't noticed the fan noise though, so either the card isn't getting hot enough to turn up the fan speed, or my speakers are turned up too loud to notice ;)
From Nvidia 185.65 beta release note:
* Up to 11% performance increase in Call of Duty: World at War
* Up to 5% performance increase Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
* Up to 22% performance increase Crysis: Warhead with antialiasing enabled
* Up to 11% performance increase in Fallout 3 with antialiasing enabled
* Up to 14% performance increase in Far Cry 2
* Up to 45% performance increase in Mirror’s Edge with antialiasing enabled
From Nidia 182.50 WHQL release note:
* Up to 8% performance increase in Fallout 3 at high resolution and AA.
* Up to 10% performance increase in F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin.
* Up to 9% performance increase in Half-Life 2 at high resolution with AA.
* Up to 11% performance increase in Left 4 Dead at high resolution with AA.
* Up to 10% performance increase in Race Driver: GRID at high resolution and AA.
Note the 45% increase of Mirrors edge. If it was benched at 30fps it would now be at 43fps
We take the most popular selling games and so do they. It's not a secret sauce. :)
Yeah thats what all 'governments' say to people who think its a conspiracy...
:p
I seem to remeber some sites not getting any (HardOCP...) ?
I think that was the GTS 250 - we didn't get one either.
Also, our choice of test games is at least partially influenced by the popularity of games currently being bought and played. Quite a few of the test games have been in the top 10 games chart for a while now, while other games are firm favourites of ours (and, hopefully, yours too). Then there are games such as Crysis and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. which pick themselves as benchmark games because of their high hardware demands (when will we see the first sub £200 card to play Crysis at Very High detail is something we're all interested in).
There's almost certainly an cynical 'let's win the benchmarks' element to driver-based performance improvements (especially if the driver only improves 3DMark!) but the performance updates should also deliver extra speed for the thousands of people who enjoy playing any games that gets an update.
Hopefully that doesn't sound too much like I'm sitting on the fence... :D
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