It doesnt seem that long ago when I bought my 260-216core... the 275 is a decent increase from that... and for less money than I paid for mine (it was the XFX Black Edition though .. so decently overclocked).
I also have an iMac and one of the beauty's of the machine is the fact that it is practically silent. The Gaming PC (whilst not a vacuum cleaner) is noticeably louder.
The fact that the 4890 runs 'hot and noisy' to quote the review is an instant turn off for me.
As well as the fact that AMD have 'widened the copper' etc to cope !!! It has the equivalent of RROD written all over it!
Originally Posted by leexgx can you please add an print option for bit tech or any one know an web site that does it
Nope sorry - the formatting in each of the articles is specific and sometimes specialised so that doesn't translate easily into a simplified version.
Also, people use the printer friendly option to strip out the ads or google/digg links use it. It's how we solely fund the site and pay for our jobs :p so it was a business decision at the start to not include sorry :)
The fact that the 4890 runs 'hot and noisy' to quote the review is an instant turn off for me.
As well as the fact that AMD have 'widened the copper' etc to cope !!! It has the equivalent of RROD written all over it!
To say that the 4890 runs "hot" is complete rubbish. Did anyone even look at the load temperature of the 275? Yikes! I'm sure NVIDIA will bring that down when they release some actual retail cards, but then you can guarantee that their noise advantage will go out the window (especially when ATI board partners get around to lower the fan speeds under load).
As for saying "It has the equivalent of RROD written all over it," evidently you're a little fuzzy about what exactly caused the RRoD incidents.
Originally Posted by Jojii I thought Asus provided a overclocking tool that allows you to adjust the core voltage of the gpu?
Yes, it's something we'll come back to... there's been three (and sometimes four) of us working on this for almost the whole week and I don't know about the other guys, but I'm ready for a beer. :)
I'd like to see a couple of board partners use a GTX285 or GTX260 cooler on the 275 as I think that'd allow them a fair amount more overclocking headroom too with the more efficient cooling.
Do bit have any plans on doing an overall forceware 185 review? As it'll obviously bump performance on all Nvidia cards and may change some recommendations (GTX260 vs 4870) and see how the GTX 285 performance compares to the GTX275 on a level playing field.
We'll be doing a performance update article soon and that'll use whatever the latest available drivers are for both sides. It'll probably be in a month or so now. Next on the agenda is a clock-for-clock comparison across the various cards we've tested here in more theoretical terms looking at the architecture changes that were made in the 4890 in particular.
Originally Posted by uncle_fungus As the author of FahMon I feel obliged to point out that there is no "@" in the name. It's FahMon, not F@hMon (or FAHMon for that matter).
Originally Posted by leexgx can you please add an print option for bit tech or any one know an web site that does it
Nope sorry - the formatting in each of the articles is specific and sometimes specialised so that doesn't translate easily into a simplified version.
Also, people use the printer friendly option to strip out the ads or google/digg links use it. It's how we solely fund the site and pay for our jobs :p so it was a business decision at the start to not include sorry :)
was guessing that realy , you could but ads inside the printed page
using nibitor, I found that my 260 can run oc'd on lower than stock volts- the temps are really really low like this too around 50C loaded but you can't push it too far.. there was occasional artifacts in game up around 725 core 1512 shader which seems to be the limit, any higher and you would black screen (and the errors were like white spots once in a while- really didn't mess with it too much after seeing this, but it might be something someone would like to try at a lower core/shader)
but that's pretty good considering stock volts load around 7-8C higher.. you could probably run the fan really low like this and still have a decent gaming experience
Good article. A couple of points to clear up.
P7 - "the HD 4890 is firmly in the shade of the GTS 275" (GTX)
P18 - "Either that, or it'll have to look into a re-vamped HD 4850 X2 card based on a pair of RV790 GPUs" Does that signify that any 4890 X2 will not be an official ATI product?
I don't want to repeat all the compliments to this article that have been made. So, well done, I did not feel like I was left hanging on any information. I loved it! :D
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can you please add an print option for bit tech or any one know an web site that does it
Nope sorry - the formatting in each of the articles is specific and sometimes specialised so that doesn't translate easily into a simplified version.
Also, people use the printer friendly option to strip out the ads or google/digg links use it. It's how we solely fund the site and pay for our jobs :p so it was a business decision at the start to not include sorry :)
I forgot what it was like to use IE, but if your using Firefox there are several EASY options.
If you just click on (File then Print Preview) you will have a clean page layout with no ADs and can even increase font or arrange to print layout.
If you install the addon "Web to PDF" from: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/?application=firefox
you can have a PDF format. It will include Ads. Bit-Tech might prefer this option.
Cut and paste works. ;) Simple amature stuff. Should not have a problem.
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ReplyMe too, I think 275 is better.
Dude, how quick do you read? We only put that up two minutes ago! lols
I also have an iMac and one of the beauty's of the machine is the fact that it is practically silent. The Gaming PC (whilst not a vacuum cleaner) is noticeably louder.
The fact that the 4890 runs 'hot and noisy' to quote the review is an instant turn off for me.
As well as the fact that AMD have 'widened the copper' etc to cope !!! It has the equivalent of RROD written all over it!
Nope sorry - the formatting in each of the articles is specific and sometimes specialised so that doesn't translate easily into a simplified version.
Also, people use the printer friendly option to strip out the ads or google/digg links use it. It's how we solely fund the site and pay for our jobs :p so it was a business decision at the start to not include sorry :)
To say that the 4890 runs "hot" is complete rubbish. Did anyone even look at the load temperature of the 275? Yikes! I'm sure NVIDIA will bring that down when they release some actual retail cards, but then you can guarantee that their noise advantage will go out the window (especially when ATI board partners get around to lower the fan speeds under load).
As for saying "It has the equivalent of RROD written all over it," evidently you're a little fuzzy about what exactly caused the RRoD incidents.
Yes, it's something we'll come back to... there's been three (and sometimes four) of us working on this for almost the whole week and I don't know about the other guys, but I'm ready for a beer. :)
Do bit have any plans on doing an overall forceware 185 review? As it'll obviously bump performance on all Nvidia cards and may change some recommendations (GTX260 vs 4870) and see how the GTX 285 performance compares to the GTX275 on a level playing field.
Duly corrected, thanks for pointing it out.
was guessing that realy , you could but ads inside the printed page
but that's pretty good considering stock volts load around 7-8C higher.. you could probably run the fan really low like this and still have a decent gaming experience
P7 - "the HD 4890 is firmly in the shade of the GTS 275" (GTX)
P18 - "Either that, or it'll have to look into a re-vamped HD 4850 X2 card based on a pair of RV790 GPUs" Does that signify that any 4890 X2 will not be an official ATI product?
P.. Is the What Hardware article out soon:)
I forgot what it was like to use IE, but if your using Firefox there are several EASY options.
If you just click on (File then Print Preview) you will have a clean page layout with no ADs and can even increase font or arrange to print layout.
If you install the addon "Web to PDF" from: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/?application=firefox
you can have a PDF format. It will include Ads. Bit-Tech might prefer this option.
Cut and paste works. ;) Simple amature stuff. Should not have a problem.
Apparently, that didn't do much? :/
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