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Redbeaver 30th November 2007, 19:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tim S

I'd clock the hell in the short term - there'll be faster stuff out in the future and I'm sure your card is just fine as it is at the moment. ;)

agree. specially the news post on Geforce9 coming next Feb LOL
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Originally Posted by Jipa
I don't see _ANY_ reason to upgrade a GTS640 to GT, unless if you manage to do it so you don't have to pay anything (i.e. sell the GTS and buy the GT for cheaper).

well, some of us (not me) have the eVGA 90-days step up program :) (or step-down if u wanna look at it financially lol wonder if evga would credit us if we "step-down")
Techno-Dann 30th November 2007, 21:38 Quote
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One interesting tidbit I did learn was that AMD is looking at ways to make multi-GPU as transparent as possible, because it no longer sees a future in making increasingly large GPUs. I’m speculating here, but I can see AMD using something like a HyperTransport bus to pass data between the two (or more) GPUs and a PCI-Express controller, which may also have the render back-ends incorporated that talk directly to the on-board memory. It sounds crazy I know, but I really believe that if multi-GPU is going to be the future, it needs to be as transparent for the user as humanly possible.

Forget just having GPUs talking via a HyperTransport-like bus. I'm guessing that the moment we see bandwidth between CPU and GPUs becoming an issue, AMD will rebuild their PCI-express controller onto the CPU, so when you plug an AMD video card into an AMD motherboard, rather than talking via PCI-express, they talk across HyperTransport. HyperTransport proved itself to be vastly superior to slower, northbridge-handled data transfer in the dual-core CPU wars, and I'm betting that AMD is smart enough to pull off a similar coup in the video card world the moment it becomes worth doing.
Anakha 1st December 2007, 03:56 Quote
HT was (is) superior to PCI-E v1. V2, though, I'm not so sure about.

Still, it's disappointing that the very best ATi can come up with is beaten by the "Lowest of the high-end cards" from NVidia. And with GeForce 9 on the horizon, which you can bet has good power management, and DX 10.1, and wipes the floor with the current generation of cards from both players (Unless, of course, they make another GeForce FX mistake), things aren't looking good for team red... erm... green... erm... whatever colour AMD/ATi are these days.

Mind you, we've also yet to see NVidia's answer to Spider, what's happening with SLI (Will Quad SLI make a comeback?), How NV is going to handle PCI-E2... There's a lot of maybes at the moment, and I'm (still) going to play "Wait and see" 'til I decide who's won. This round, though, has to go to NVidia. the 8-series is dominating, and the promise of more will always whet the appetite of the enthusiasts out there.
Woodstock 1st December 2007, 11:59 Quote
shame about the steam updates preventing source engine based games, and possible future benchmarks on them... on a different note, hear in nz the 3870 and 8800 gt are within 5 dollars difference
[USRF]Obiwan 1st December 2007, 18:50 Quote
So... a crossfired ati is almost as fast as a single 8800GT in most benches. Great find Tim! But jokes aside, i loved the whole dx10.1 vs dx10 story. Awesome writing.
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