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DirectX 10: The Future of PC Gaming

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FragK 4th December 2006, 17:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tim S
Yes, the DirectX 10 libraries aren't available until January when Windows Vista ships.

SC is to be released in 'early 2007', that'll be a quick job implementing dx10
Tim S 4th December 2006, 17:21 Quote
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SC is to be released in 'early 2007', that'll be a quick job implementing dx10
Well, Devs have had DirectX 10 hardware since October at the earliest, maybe even late September. :)
zeoverlord 5th December 2006, 17:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tim S
Well, Devs have had DirectX 10 hardware since October at the earliest, maybe even late September. :)
True, but they had DX10 hardware emulators (+ DX10 proto drivers running on XP) for quite some time now, it's not that hard to do on DX9 hardware, it will look the same, but you just won't get any umpf out of it.
Kurayamino 7th December 2006, 01:16 Quote
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There are two versions of DirectX installed on Windows Vista - DirectX 10, and DirectX 9Ex. DirectX 9Ex is "compatible" with all GPUs and DirectX 10 is only used with DirectX 10 hardware - any hardware that isn't DirectX 10 compatible will not use DirectX 10.


Thanks everyone that replied :D
LancerX 11th December 2006, 19:09 Quote
Tim -

So let's say that we've already got a powerful DX9 WinXP gaming rig. Besides a nice DX10 GPU (or two), what other hardware bits are going to need upgraded to run Vista well? (By well, I mean being able to run bleeding edge games, silly!)

For example, I'm hearing some buzz about how Vista won't run well on existing hard drive technology. Apparently, there's a new HD tech on the horizon which is, in my simple understanding, a typical hard drive with a bunch of flash memory integrated (for fast access to frequently-used data).
Nikumba 11th December 2006, 19:35 Quote
Vista runs find on existing drive tech
Alex25994 14th March 2007, 17:02 Quote
Does anyone have any idea how long it will be till we get DX10 GPUs on laptops?
"Nvidia Geforce GO 8800" thats what i want! :D
The_Pope 14th March 2007, 19:39 Quote
Hi Alex25994 - welcome to the bit-tech forums.

DX10 on notebooks? It will certainly happen. I don't have any specific roadmap info (and would be bound by an NDA if I did) BUT I would take a stab at "Summer 2007". Mobile graphics aren't really influenced in the same way that the desktop race-for-pace is. Having said that, I read today somewhere that ATI are prepping DX10 mobile chips (though beware: not all X2xxx mobile series are DX10; some are still DX9 apparently).

My question to you is this: do you *really* want to play DX10 games on the move? OR do you want the portability of a notebook with the option to play games when you're plugged in at home? Keep an eye on the site for news of a funky Docking Station that lets you use *desktop* PCI-E graphics.

That way you can have Intel integrated graphics and a thin laptop (battery life ++ ) when you travel BUT with the grunt of a desktop 8800 GTX for when you want to game at home.
Cthippo 14th March 2007, 19:46 Quote
There are some people for whom mobile gaming is somthing of a must. Two years ago I spent three months living in a hotel room on deployment with FEMA and spent a lot of my off time playing CS:CZ on my laptop. In that instance battery life was unimportant but performance was. I can see laptops splitting into two evolutionary paths, a "luggable" desktop replacement and the more portable thin systems. To some extent it is already happening, but the distinction has not hit the marketing departments yet.
Tyinsar 14th March 2007, 19:58 Quote
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... I can see laptops splitting into two evolutionary paths, a "luggable" desktop replacement and the more portable thin systems. To some extent it is already happening, but the distinction has not hit the marketing departments yet.
:) I'd like to see that happen. I know a number of people who (myself included) would opt for the "'luggable' desktop replacement" (especially if it was economical and somewhat upgradeable) but I wonder how far beyond the "enthusiast on the go" / LAN gamer this would go.
ou7blaze 14th March 2007, 21:10 Quote
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braggart.

I'm glad supreme commander will have a DX10 mode.

/AND a Dx9 mode. still on 7800GTX.

What do you mean STILL. I'M STILL, on my Radeon9800pro and it's showing it's age...

One question, if I buy a dx9 card now like a 7900 I can play all the DX10 enabled games in the future just not be able to use the higher settings that DX10 brings like the "ultra" setting or something on company of heroes right?
Alex25994 14th March 2007, 22:43 Quote
Thanks for the replys guys. Well i use my laptop mainly as a "desktop substitute" however i am at university and do need mobility. Also i dont have the budget to have a desktop and a laptop.

But this docking station sounds interesting. Did i understand you right - it would allow hardcore desktop/directX 10 graphics power on a laptop with intergrated intel graphics? And would a laptop with a lesser Nvidia card, say the Go 7600 be able to use it? And finally is it going to be very expensive? Sorry for all the questions! :D
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