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HIS Radeon X850XT IceQ II Turbo

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Shadowed_fury 30th June 2005, 13:20 Quote
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Wrong link! :)
Tim S 30th June 2005, 13:29 Quote
fixed, thanks
Shadowed_fury 30th June 2005, 13:31 Quote
Nice review, that card looks good, but I think i'd have to spend my money on a Nvidia card.
Since it has SM3.0, HDR...
In my eyes, Ati hold nothing if your spending that sort of money. :)
bwlonsdale 30th June 2005, 17:37 Quote
That is a nice card and a good price, but I think the X800XTs are the best value for money right now.

I just bought an Asus AX800XT Platinum Edition for £234 from Overclockers (and that was including VAT). It runs at a default 520/1120 core/mem which is remarkably close to the X850XT in this review and I don't think you're going to see much, if any, difference in frame rate.

I've OC'd the card last night and got 570/1140 core/mem out of it (that was with water cooling on the GPU and some copper RAM sinks on the mem so your mileage may vary).

Just checked and OCers have just bunged the price up a touch...it's now £252 inc VAT but that's still a very good deal in comparison and £50 cheaper than HiS.

[Update] OCers have now removed this card from their website...sorry! Maybe cos I complained it didn't ship with the webcam it was meant to!!
Shadowed_fury 1st July 2005, 02:00 Quote
I agree, very nice ;)
Da Dego 1st July 2005, 14:43 Quote
I was actually just about to comment on them, Pope!

I think these new tables really are quite nice. They make the summary of information very easy to look at, particularly since the style of review is "best playable" instead of "how many FPS can I cram". It's this type of innovative stuff that sets BT's reviews apart from the rest.
The_Pope 1st July 2005, 15:02 Quote
Glad to hear - we do try ;)
Da Dego 1st July 2005, 15:28 Quote
If I may make one request, though...Perhaps you guys should work on making the text a little more legible in the pictures. Depending on the image, they can be a little harder to read. For instance, with the HL2 one, the first NVidia line is difficult. Not sure what can be done here, but perhaps something little would make a big difference. The bars are easier because they have that glow around them, maybe that will help you?
Tim S 1st July 2005, 15:53 Quote
I've already mentioned that and we're developing them so that they are a little more legible :)
Da Dego 1st July 2005, 16:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigz
I've already mentioned that and we're developing them so that they are a little more legible :)
Oops! Sorry biggles. Where did you say that? I must have just missed it.
Tim S 1st July 2005, 16:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
Oops! Sorry biggles. Where did you say that? I must have just missed it.
I've already mentioned it internally... sorry, I confused matters :)
Da Dego 1st July 2005, 17:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigz
I've already mentioned it internally... sorry, I confused matters :)
Oooh, sure. :) I see how it is, blame me for questioning you talking to yourself.
Tim S 1st July 2005, 17:08 Quote
ongoing development to provide you guys with the information that you want, as they say
JADS 2nd July 2005, 12:59 Quote
It may be more effort, but wouldn't it be useful to take three resolutions say 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 then show the maximum capabilities for the cards at each resolution with playable framerates?

I'm still waiting to see if the 7800GTX cards in SLI can play at playable frame rates at 2560x1600, they support one dual-link DVI socket now so it should be possible :)
Shadowed_fury 2nd July 2005, 21:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by JADS
It may be more effort, but wouldn't it be useful to take three resolutions say 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 then show the maximum capabilities for the cards at each resolution with playable framerates?
This would be nice for me, and plenty of other people I imagine.
I only game at 1280x1024 (17" TFT)...
Tim S 3rd July 2005, 00:29 Quote
i like your thinking... but that is around three times the work. It depends whether you want 2 reviews a month, or 6+ reviews a month....
The_Pope 3rd July 2005, 02:42 Quote
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This would be nice for me, and plenty of other people I imagine.
I only game at 1280x1024 (17" TFT)...

Why would knowing the max fps at 1024 and 1600 be useful if you only game at 1280?

Benchmarking is very time & labour intensive, and Tim is quite correct: would you prefer only one or two reviews a month with a billion different resolutions, or 6+ per month with a sensible compromise of representative settings?

1280 is an obvious sweet-spot for gaming: everyone with a 17" TFT or larger will be running this as their minimum desktop resolution; every CRT of 17" or larger can do this resolution too. When Tim has spent a great deal of time figuring out the Best Playable Settings, which are 30fps min and around 60fps average, and those results say all but one card in one game runs smoothly at 1280 or higher, why then would we benchmark at 1024?

Of course, if something *really* intensive came out, like maybe Half Life 2: Lost Coast and the HDR creates SUCH a hit, then IF the Best Playable Settings are only 1024, then we'd bench at 1024. The idea is to provide Apples vs Apples numbers that are applicable to the most number of people. If the MaxFPS was only 20 at anything higher than 1024, *nobody* would substitute smoothness for a higher resolution.

Am I making sense?
Shadowed_fury 3rd July 2005, 14:37 Quote
Oh yeah, I get what you mean.
1280x1024 benchies would be useful to know for us 17" TFT guys, but if its gonna cost more reviews, nevermind!
Tim S 3rd July 2005, 14:38 Quote
I've been conducting apples-to-apples at 1280x1024... ;)

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/06/30/his_x850xt_iturbo/10.html
Shadowed_fury 3rd July 2005, 15:02 Quote
Thanks for that Bigz.
Hopefully if you can do that when the 7600-series comes out, that would be great. :)
rupbert 4th July 2005, 12:20 Quote
It would be nice to have a 9800xt or something similar as a comparison, as I believe many people (inlcuding myself) would be upgrading from that generation of card...

I know it would involve using a completely different system, however the benchmark results do that seem that impressive. The inclusion of another previous generation would show the actual gap in performance...
mol_007 2nd February 2006, 10:57 Quote
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I having a problem as I cannot adjust my fan spped on my ATI X850 Platiunm card.
And when I play games like Doom 3 the card over heast as the fan does not change speeds. I tried the ATI tools but the option to adjust fan spped does not show.

I suspect there something wrong with the card and in the catalyst smartgear does not show.

How can I adjust the fan spped as it runs at only one speed.

It on a MSI 915P/G Neo2 motherboard and I have 450 Watt power supply

any suggestions?

mol_007@hotmail.com
Brian
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