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Originally Posted by Harlequin
and who cares if BT doesn't have raided SSD`s - 1 ssd is enough unless you stare at benchmarks all day.
Originally Posted by Harlequinthe only thing really an SSD does for games is when its loading levels - wow for example. in FPS it doesn't really help as a `map` only starts when all players are in , or games have preloading of levels (skyrim for example)
a PS3 shows very little benefit of an SSD over a HDD.
Originally Posted by MeanmotionThat's not strictly true. Many games only partially load a level fully into memory, instead requiring regular mini-loads as you progress through the level. An SSD can have quite an impact in these instances.
Originally Posted by Harlequinjrs77
you average person who walks into pcworld doesn't know or care a hoot about jibbabytes or NVidia raydeons - they care about candy crush and how flash games don't work on ipads.
does pc go on facebook + you tube + Skype , can it open a text document , have anti virus - and maybe play half life 2 I just bought in the steam sale for the price of a banana? yes?
good then its a sle!!
Originally Posted by Gareth HalfacreeQuote:Originally Posted by DbDIn reality there is basically 0 market for ultra budget igp gaming desktops. Either you don't really care and any integrated is fine, or you care and you buy a cheap discrete card. I beg to differ. You've missed off a small market segment there - and I know you have, because I'm in that very segment: people who want a low-power system capable of playing a few games.
My desktop is an AMD A10-5800K, because I wanted something that drew less power than my old Intel and GeForce combo yet would still allow me to play games from the Humble Bundle and similar - even if I have to turn the settings down a bit, or run at a non-native resolution. In that, I excelled: for £500, I got a system with specifications that matched my requirements (A10-5800K, motherboard with at least one PCI slot for a legacy card I use, 16GB of reasonable-speed RAM, SSD, SATA optical drive to replace my old IDE one, nice quiet case and a few extra cooling fans) and performs brilliantly. More importantly, it draws significantly less power than my old system, both at idle and under load.
Job done, happy customer. If it starts to struggle with the type of game I play, I may stick a cheap graphics card in there - a passively cooled one, for preference, as my rig is near-silent at the moment and I wouldn't want that to change - but for now I'm gold.
Originally Posted by DbDIn reality there is basically 0 market for ultra budget igp gaming desktops. Either you don't really care and any integrated is fine, or you care and you buy a cheap discrete card.
Originally Posted by SchizoFrogI am still not convinced that building a 'gaming machine' of any description is worth while with onboard graphics. I would much rather have an Intel CPU and a separate GPU, even if it is a little more expensive. The long term benefits make it worth while to me.
Originally Posted by DbDIf you're happy you're happy, but I suspect your choice of cpu has more to do with liking AMD then power usage.
Originally Posted by DbDA10-5800K is hardly a low power chip, in fact it takes about twice the power at load an i3 would do:
Originally Posted by Gareth HalfacreeQuote:Originally Posted by DbD
Originally Posted by DbD
Originally Posted by rolloWe can all agree that theres a usage for these chips, but to state they are for gamers is misleading at best. You would struggle to get the 5 most popular pc titles to run at 1080 resolution on either of these setups which is the bear minimum if your connecting to a tv of some sort ( Which is how many famillys do cheap pcs they put it onto the kids bedroom telly which already does 1080 anyway)
top 5 by sales in the last year in pc gaming. ( all 5 have been tested at one point or another by various sites on different gpu setups )
BF3 no chance of running,
World of Warcraft Mists of panda land will run outside of a raid scenerio at least.
Diablo 3 it will run how well depends on the act your running it on and how many people your playing it with.
Crysis 3 no chance of running
Starcraft 2s expansion will once again run but your not gpu limited its cpu limited.
change the gpu from onboard to a 7770 and all will run add a 7850 to the mix and you can max out 3 of the 5 and have above console details in the other 2. all for not alot more than the price of the amd chip + the 6670.
Originally Posted by MeanmotionAll told, I feel another feature coming on...
Originally Posted by ShirtyI read a statistic somewhere that 86% of personal computers in the world are not used for gaming in any meaningful capacity. Of the 14% that are, only 21% have a dedicated GPU..... FACT !
Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
So, feel free to disagree with me all you want - although I suspect it has more to do with your dislike of AMD than actually knowing anything about my reasoning behind my purchase.
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