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Originally Posted by rolloThis is a high end forum in a way very few people are on low end computers on this forum, Everyone just about has spent £1k on there pcs minimum. Some have spent double or tripple that on them. Theres even foke with £2k-3k Alienware Rigs out in this forum.
Originally Posted by rolloAs people have said for the Low end AMD is fine but if you have a discrete gpu for 1080p gaming and you must have AMD is a none entity. the i3 which is £93 does the same job in games as this chip does.
Originally Posted by rolloLets get this clear niether AMD or Intels onboard will do 1080p gaming at any decent settings you would be better off on a xbox or playstation. You may not like this fact but its the truth however blunt it might be.
Originally Posted by rolloOf the 3 computers in my house I personally brought them all and handed them down once I was finished with them. My parents are on a core 2 duo system from the stone age, Guess what its still far to fast for them with a SSD equiped it flys through tasks like no tommorow for there very basic usages.
They will get my current gaming pc when I finally retire it and it will last them till 2020 id imagine before it will be showing its age for there very basic usage. ( which is the same thing 90% of the population use it for Word, Facebook, Email)
Originally Posted by rolloCompare the 5800k of AMD to this 6800k if i was buying either id buy the 5800k its a much better value for money chip that does the same in games - 1-2fps. I mensioned what it does in games as thats what people seem to be arguing as a benifit.
Originally Posted by law99Rover were awful anyway.
I don't think liking things that are the best is a bad thing, but, because of a gaming bias, people are jumping on the "AMD is not relevant anymore" band wagon and making spurious value comments without checking any facts on the matter or considering other positions, be it intended main function or whatever.
Sites like Bit-Tech have reviewed the APU honestly with a mean to understand it's function and place in the market. For low power gaming it fits the bill. The scores they give are relevant for the time and place.
If I want to build a media pc that can play some Diablo or Skyrim at 720p on a low preset without breaking 100 watts... I can with the 6700. I can play quite a lot of games actually at probably almost similar settings to an HD console... which I can't with an i3 without making more serious concessions, like losing HTPC functionality. (read: I don't want to sacrifice form factore. I don't want to lose an HD tuner pcie card. I don't want to use a discreet card)
In fact at the level of performance you get, I fail to understand how you couldn't arguably call it an "enthusiast" part, because, actually it is reasonably competitive. (probably because you are missing the point of intended use; be it form factor or whatever)
I read this forum and site and I am not on minimum wage. I have a fairly reasonable PC. I am interested in PC tech. Therefore, I'm interested in pretty much the whole thing, not just the range at the top. If there is an experience to have and you can't see past your GTX670 and core i CPU then that is your problem... this review is a review on the merits available to its price point. Not your £500+ gaming pc build.
It is to AMDs credit that the APU can invoke these arguments. The fact that they have an APU that is clearly playable in this market obfuscates your judgement. A quick look around the internet reveals I could play Bioshock infinte for instance, on the previous model at reasonable settings at 720p... is that a bad thing? What about the new model with slightly better power consumption? (why not look here at what anandtech are showing today?)
Then you start saying things like "if you were building from scratch" ??? What sort of justification is that? Are you saying that I should only buy second hand so that I can receive worse performance in the key areas I'd be looking at buying this APU for?
This argument boggles me. (Let alone before we look at it from the perspective of Bit-Tech who are doing a job of describing what we have now... which is considerable better than recycling a core2 if you want to do anything other than simple playback and spreadsheets and need a small form factor and tdp)
I don't want to use old tech for things it wasn't designed for with diminishing support. Which is basically what you are inferring. That I should dig out my 4200+ because it is good enough... which is hilarious really because the fact is; the argument flipped on its head. I have the money to go out an build a low power machine for an HTPC that can also be used for light gaming, with support for the latest features, and you want me to start recycling old stuff to ... I don't know what you want me to do??? It's like my head is caving in on its self trying to understand what you want from me or the rest of the public for that matter.
And I'm not unaware of the irony of the above statement - which is what further makes me feel like giving up typing as it is like a complete wallbash - the a10 series offers good enough processing for everything else... but the fact is, it is almost exemplary in the market it is trying to occupy at the given price point. Something that core2, i3 or Atom and Pentium cannot deliver.
Originally Posted by SuicideNeilWho the feck games at 720p? There are several small gfx cards around that fit perfectly into htpc cases, and will give the same or better performance than the AMD APU route.
Originally Posted by SuicideNeilConsole gamers.... *vomits*
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