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AMD A10-5800K review

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Bungletron 3rd October 2012, 14:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic
What makes you think that ?

I think they crossfired a HD 6670 with the onboard at tomshardware
Bungletron 3rd October 2012, 14:32 Quote
At scan I can buy the chip, no motherboards to put it in!
GuilleAcoustic 3rd October 2012, 14:44 Quote
Trinity IGP is based on VLIW4 architecture (i.e. HD6000) and not on GCN (i.e. HD7000). That's why you can't xFire it with HD7000 series. GCN is due to be used in Kaveri, the 3rd gen APU (with up to 512 SP).
veato 3rd October 2012, 14:49 Quote
My nephew needs a cheap gaming PC but still wants to play modern shooters, etc.

I could buy this:

A10 + 6670 in hybrid crossfire and FM2 board (£215 approx)

or this:

i3-2120 + B75 board + 7750 (£223 approx)

Would the A10 work out better here?
GuilleAcoustic 3rd October 2012, 14:53 Quote
I'd go for i3 + 7750. xFire is not supported by all games and can end up with worse performances than with a single card.
littlepuppi 3rd October 2012, 14:58 Quote
get the pentium G850 and put the extra 30 - 40 quid towards getting a 7850 - if he games you need GPU GPU GPU...
GuilleAcoustic 3rd October 2012, 14:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by littlepuppi
get the pentium G850 and put the extra 30 - 40 quid towards getting a 7850 - if he games you need GPU GPU GPU...

was going to add this same advise.
sandys 3rd October 2012, 15:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by rollo
Image editing I'd say is pretty critical for most low end pcs as that will be one of the top 5 uses of there pc ahead of games. If you don't edit photos looks like a great little chip.

Are we likely to see anything to compete with intel in the £120-£220 brackets I wonder.

The people that buy these low end systems are quite likely to be the same people who were buying Atom/Brazos and crappy old celerons and quite happy doing photo editing with those chips having never seen a benchmark.
veato 3rd October 2012, 15:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by littlepuppi
get the pentium G850 and put the extra 30 - 40 quid towards getting a 7850 - if he games you need GPU GPU GPU...

Although probably better that's still around £40 more than the A10 option. Depending on how generous his parents are feeling it might not be an option.
Gareth Halfacree 3rd October 2012, 16:51 Quote
I've got my proposed build planned out - comes in at just shy of £450, including an £80 case, £50 PSU, £55 120GB SSD ('cos why not) and 16GB of CL9 1,866MHz RAM. Should make for a tasty little upgrade, if I can ever afford it...
http://www.ebuyer.com/lists/list/67705
whatsthatnoise 3rd October 2012, 17:10 Quote
Seems not really worth to overclock this one, does it? The performance gain is really small, compared to an even higher power draw.
GuilleAcoustic 3rd October 2012, 17:10 Quote
I'm going for roughly the same but with 2400MHz ram and A10-5700. Scratch case design incoming, with DIY DAC and DIY power amp inside :D .... muMetal shielding planned too
mediapcAddict 3rd October 2012, 17:45 Quote
I think AMD would have been better having an option for a seperate channel for graphics memory. For a modern cpu 1600Mhz is plenty, but for a gpu faster is better. ( currently 8 gb of 1600mhz ddr3 is £31 - 8 GB of 2133 is £47 - at the value end of the scale it is noticable )
andrew8200m 3rd October 2012, 17:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by faxiij
I wish AMD would stop failing. :(

Less than an i3, similar performance and a GPU built in 2-3x as fast?

I think you have failed to grasp the concept of this product.
[PUNK] crompers 3rd October 2012, 18:04 Quote
Quite, its excellent for what its made for. No news on the heat output though?
SexyHyde 4th October 2012, 04:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by mediapcAddict
I think AMD would have been better having an option for a seperate channel for graphics memory. For a modern cpu 1600Mhz is plenty, but for a gpu faster is better. ( currently 8 gb of 1600mhz ddr3 is £31 - 8 GB of 2133 is £47 - at the value end of the scale it is noticable )

agree on the separate channel idea. prices are a bit off though, i can get 8Gb 1600 ddr3 for £24 and my 8Gb 2133 ddr3 cost me £36 delivered. from large online retailer too. although i did sell my 6Gb 1600 ddr3 triple channel for £35 and used the money to offset my 8Gb 1600 ddr3 samsung green which set me back £48. some stores are being really slow at passing on the reduced prices of ram so it does check to shop around.
Bindibadgi 4th October 2012, 06:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic
The Asrock FM2A75M-ITX accpets 2600+ MHz memory :D and with this layout has a great compatibility with CPU coolers.

Let's just be clear here: any number printed on a motherboard or product page is just marketing. Every company will strive to put the fastest possible on it to make them appear faster. The real capacity lies within the CPU IMC though.

Antony - can you do a memory scaling article and see if other boards can hit 2400-2600? And whether latency has an affect because many memory kits now are dropping CL11 rather than CL9.

If not I'll see if we can do something here cause I'm interested :P /raids the ROG labs for 3GHz mem sticks.
Anfield 4th October 2012, 11:50 Quote
@Bindi, cpu performance doesn't scale much with ram speed, the gpu part however is a different story and scales pretty well. No idea about lower latency, most of my ram acts up if I push the latency down.
GuilleAcoustic 4th October 2012, 12:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by veato
That's a tiny H61 and the two RAM slots might be a problem. I might consider it to squeeze a 7850 in though.

Why would two slot be an issue ? You still can use dual-channel and 2x 4GB is more than enough ^^
Anfield 5th October 2012, 18:06 Quote
@Bindibadgi, found some numbers on the gpu scaling with ram speed, sorry the text isn't exactly in english, but graphs work in any language xD

http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/182755.htm
impar 5th October 2012, 21:03 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by Anfield
@Bindibadgi, found some numbers on the gpu scaling with ram speed, sorry the text isn't exactly in english, but graphs work in any language xD
http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/182755.htm
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/print/amd-trinity-graphics.html
littlepuppi 5th October 2012, 21:13 Quote
1866 looks like a sweet spot, most 1600 kits will do this, but performance does keep rising, if u oc the gpu it will probably help even more


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-EVRE- 13th August 2013, 18:12 Quote
I came to BT to read this review...
What a lame review, seriously... 1 game benchmark?!
I have almost no idea how fast this GPU/CPU is when compared to others on the market.
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