Published on 27th July 2012 by
Originally Posted by .//TuNdRaIf AMD goes Bankrupt; Intel wouldn't be allowed to buy them up in Liquidation, another company would have to take possession, to ensure that Intel still has competition.
Originally Posted by Harlequinand what if no one bought them?
Originally Posted by .//TuNdRaI was suspecting that was the case, from the absolute lack of information i'd heard about a different stepping, while AMD was busy pushing Piledriver as hard as they could.
Originally Posted by Harlequinso if AMD goes bankrupt , how wouldnt it happen?
Originally Posted by AnfieldAs the financial crisis has taught us, they'll simply get tax money if they are risk of going under, so no need anymore for buying amd cpus as a charitable act.
Originally Posted by fluxtaticThey've sunk enough into it now that they'll keep on with the BD-derivations to the end of the roadmap they laid out (2014 or so, iirc), I suspect. I wouldn't be surprised if they bailed after that and concentrate on the low- and mid-range in the consumer space. What'll really kill them is if they can't come up with competitive server procs. AMD and Intel both make an absolute killing on server platforms, and things aren't so rosy for AMD there, either. BD is awesome at some very specific server applications, but that can't carry them. They need to get back to the drawing board and figure out how they'll beat Intel in the server space again.
Originally Posted by EltonFor some reason I get the inkling of a feeling that AMD might end up combining K10 and BD architectures. I'm sure there's still some way to pull it off. After all Intel did it before.
Originally Posted by Action_Parsnip
Intel never merged Pentium M (Conroe predecessor) and Pentium 4. Hyper Threading and a trace cache are not things that made the P4 a P4, a very long pipeline, high latencies for even common, simple instructions and horrendous branch-missprediction penalties were those things.
Originally Posted by .//TuNdRaWho knows? At this point in time; they're just upping clock speeds and IPC, which means they'll have to alleviate some of that branch prediction penalty that's kicking the IPC in the teeth.
Does mean, however, that Piledriver might have lower temps. Bulldozer is wieeeerd with the temperature scales. Phenom II Chips went through reasonable curves. BD chips just jump. There's no curve there. 30-*load*-50. 51. 52. So on and so forth. Even did the same thing under water, cheeky bugger! (Yes. I had a good application of thermal paste. Yes. The block was unclogged. And yes, I checked all of this on first install on air anyhow. BD is just weird.)
Originally Posted by Harlequini cant see Piledriver being a huge step from BD - its the one after which should fix the issues.
Originally Posted by .//TuNdRaIt's not the engineers. AMD is using artificially generated CPU Silicon designs, not the original Hand-designed, carefully planned pathways that wound up more efficient and smaller. Which is letting them down in some areas.
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