Im looking forward to power savings of being on the lower process and 3D transistors. In theory it should offer much lower consumption, especially at the lower end of the scale.
Originally Posted by Goty Why would anybody need something like Ivy Bridge for a NAS box?
I think the point being made was that with the potentially substantial power savings that tri - gate may provide, you could have a NAS box which was both extremely frugal on power while doing nothing and extremely fast when called upon to upload a video (or many small files for that matter) over your gigabit ethernet cabling. Sure the Ivy Bridge parts coming out soon probably aren't the best choice for a NAS box, but the lower power mobile parts might be pretty well suited to such a role.
The low end of Ivy Bridge presumably like the low end of Sandy bridge on MITX makes for a great NAS box. The extra reduction in power consumption at idle and the performance when pushing bytes will make it cheap to run a box capable of maxing out 1 gbit/s.
The NAS boxes I see reviewed rarely max out ethernet, the low end of them barely hit 15MB/s instead of the 120 MB/s the hard drives and the cable is capable of. A Sandy Bridge CPU on MITX will hit peak performance at a mere 20% CPU usage with software raid 5. Its overkill but there is nothing in between the two to deliver the top performance. Ivy Bridge will allow further reductions in power which is always welcome for the low end.
If you're building a NAS box, why not use an AMD E-350 M-ITX board? It's plenty fast and will be much cheaper.
Anyway, NAS boxes are a bit off topic for this thread, anyone excited by the new maximum CPU multiplier that's gone from 57x to 63x? Did anyone even hit the 57x limit of Sandy Bridge?
It's a shame Intel are still focusing on making Quick-sync faster, rather than improving the encoring quality. It's currently about the same perceptual quality as x.264's "superfast" preset, and largely the same speed (check appendix 1). However, with quicksync fast-but-rubbish-mode is all you have, whereas at least you can vary the encoding quality of x.264 all the way up to lossless depending on how long you want to wait.
Originally Posted by Christopher N. Lew Any hint of Ivy Bridge CPUs with more than 4 cores?
Considering there will be a mobile quadcore version of Ivy Bridge with a TDP of 35W they could easily make a 12 core version with a TDP no higher than that of a 6 Core SB-E.
But of course they won't do that, why?
Ivy Bridge is the low end - mid range cpu for 2012 from Intel, it is not supposed to be faster than the highend SB-E due soon or IB-E due later in 2012.
There is a big but though, that being the Xeon branded IB chips.
I'm particularly excited about manually adjusting the multiplier from within Windows, not from an overclocking standpoint, but an underclocking standpoint.
I can finally clock the CPU right down when I'm just browsing the web, saving on power and heat!
The questions:
Same amount of electrons move at smaller amount of space creating the same amount of heat as before. How about overheating?
If the total length remains 22nm, 3D or 2D, were does the efficiency advantage comes from? Yes it's smaller, but it moves the same amount of electrons doesn't it?
Originally Posted by Claave If you're building a NAS box, why not use an AMD E-350 M-ITX board? It's plenty fast and will be much cheaper.
I am in the market for a Ivy Bridge board for a 24/7 Super-NAS. Personally I need a board with a full PCIe 16x slot for a super-beefy multiport SATA card. AMD's Fusion chipset only has a PCIe 4x slot which doesn't cut the mustard :-) I need that uber-low power consumption as well!!
Originally Posted by GreekUser The questions:
Same amount of electrons move at smaller amount of space creating the same amount of heat as before. How about overheating?
If the total length remains 22nm, 3D or 2D, were does the efficiency advantage comes from? Yes it's smaller, but it moves the same amount of electrons doesn't it?
There is actually less electrons as the smaller transistors need less power to operate.
It is more efficient because the 3D nature of the transistor means there is a larger surface area the gate is in contact with the silicon substrate. This means the transistors require a lower voltage to switch on and switch on faster when a voltage similar to levels used by the older 32nm planar transistors is used
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Why would anybody need something like Ivy Bridge for a NAS box?
I think the point being made was that with the potentially substantial power savings that tri - gate may provide, you could have a NAS box which was both extremely frugal on power while doing nothing and extremely fast when called upon to upload a video (or many small files for that matter) over your gigabit ethernet cabling. Sure the Ivy Bridge parts coming out soon probably aren't the best choice for a NAS box, but the lower power mobile parts might be pretty well suited to such a role.
The NAS boxes I see reviewed rarely max out ethernet, the low end of them barely hit 15MB/s instead of the 120 MB/s the hard drives and the cable is capable of. A Sandy Bridge CPU on MITX will hit peak performance at a mere 20% CPU usage with software raid 5. Its overkill but there is nothing in between the two to deliver the top performance. Ivy Bridge will allow further reductions in power which is always welcome for the low end.
Anyway, NAS boxes are a bit off topic for this thread, anyone excited by the new maximum CPU multiplier that's gone from 57x to 63x? Did anyone even hit the 57x limit of Sandy Bridge?
Nice one Bit Tech.
Info is coming out by the end of the week? Good stuff!
Considering there will be a mobile quadcore version of Ivy Bridge with a TDP of 35W they could easily make a 12 core version with a TDP no higher than that of a 6 Core SB-E.
But of course they won't do that, why?
Ivy Bridge is the low end - mid range cpu for 2012 from Intel, it is not supposed to be faster than the highend SB-E due soon or IB-E due later in 2012.
There is a big but though, that being the Xeon branded IB chips.
To bad the game dev's are not interested in using it simply because of the consoles.
I'm particularly excited about manually adjusting the multiplier from within Windows, not from an overclocking standpoint, but an underclocking standpoint.
I can finally clock the CPU right down when I'm just browsing the web, saving on power and heat!
Bios Ref 2001 - Enable support for Next Gen 22nm Processor
Same amount of electrons move at smaller amount of space creating the same amount of heat as before. How about overheating?
If the total length remains 22nm, 3D or 2D, were does the efficiency advantage comes from? Yes it's smaller, but it moves the same amount of electrons doesn't it?
I am in the market for a Ivy Bridge board for a 24/7 Super-NAS. Personally I need a board with a full PCIe 16x slot for a super-beefy multiport SATA card. AMD's Fusion chipset only has a PCIe 4x slot which doesn't cut the mustard :-) I need that uber-low power consumption as well!!
There is actually less electrons as the smaller transistors need less power to operate.
It is more efficient because the 3D nature of the transistor means there is a larger surface area the gate is in contact with the silicon substrate. This means the transistors require a lower voltage to switch on and switch on faster when a voltage similar to levels used by the older 32nm planar transistors is used
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