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yakyb 2nd November 2010, 11:54 Quote
have had a glance read over this and looks fairly promising, will there be further reviews once ITX versions are availible
Bungletron 2nd November 2010, 12:40 Quote
looks half decent if they can get th video optimisation and pricing right
V3ctor 2nd November 2010, 13:13 Quote
It's a great product, but it should come up earlier... When AMD unleashes it's Zacate cpu/apu, it will totally kill this VIA... I don't know how VIA can survive for much longer.
SaNdCrAwLeR 2nd November 2010, 13:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by V3ctor
It's a great product, but it should come up earlier... When AMD unleashes it's Zacate cpu/apu, it will totally kill this VIA... I don't know how VIA can survive for much longer.

are you certain? it's AMD we're talking about... the days when they showed awesome stuff to the consumer is long gone (well in the CPU marketplace anyway)
xaser04 2nd November 2010, 14:17 Quote
It looked promising right up until I read this:
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General CPU performance might be firmly ahead of Intel's Atom, but it falls short of the CULV Core 2 Duo: a part that's now nearing the end of its life. The advantage of the Core 2 Duo's common L2 cache between both cores is clearly apparent when we consider the SU7300 has a clock speed of only 1.3GHz, versus the Nano Dual-Core at 1.8GHz. Even then, the TDP of the SU7300 - which, bare in mind has 1MB more cache to power - is around 10W less than VIA's anticipated final TDP when the Nano Dual Core moves to 40nm. That's a considerable downside for VIA if it wants this CPU to be seriously considered for laptops - ultra-thin or not.
jrs77 2nd November 2010, 14:18 Quote
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are you certain? it's AMD we're talking about... the days when they showed awesome stuff to the consumer is long gone (well in the CPU marketplace anyway)

Yeah, it's exactly 50 days when AMD last showed some awesome stuff

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3920/amd-benchmarks-zacate-apu-2x-faster-gpu-performance-than-core-i5
Ross1 2nd November 2010, 15:13 Quote
heh, i didnt realise you used the planet earth bird scene.
Adnoctum 2nd November 2010, 17:23 Quote
I has Socket A flashbacks on that motherboard and cooler. From the stencilled lettering and baby-poo colouring, can I assume the board was made by Asus (or is that Pegatron now)?

When was the last time you saw a product with a VIA CPU? My guess it has been a while. I only see them occasionally in corporate thin client laptops (HP ones). I understand that VIA platforms are more common, and more popular, in Asia. I assume this is where VIA is focussing their energies now, and incidentally, probably why Richard was the only Euro journalist to get to try it out.

It looks pretty poor when the 1.3GHz SU7300 outperforms it.
And they will have no chance against AMD's Zacate/Ontario. All the strengths of this VIA platform pale when compared Zacate. With TSMC spewing forth in January, the Nano is too little, too late.
Which is sad because I like VIA, the little computer company that could.
Andy Mc 2nd November 2010, 18:48 Quote
I know the board is a engineerign sample, but the 3rd PCIe 4x slot and the 2 1x slots in the first pic of the board looked back to front to me???
xaser04 2nd November 2010, 18:58 Quote
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It looks pretty poor when the 1.3GHz SU7300 outperforms it.

It not only out peforms it, it does so whilst using 10w less which in ultra portable terms is a massive amount.
andrewf 5th November 2010, 02:32 Quote
My analysis is over at The Daily Circuit (if you remember what dual celeron 300a's are, you will enjoy that site). You Nano naysayers are thinking about it wrong. Regardless of the any laptop claims, it is a netbook or mini-tablet processor, and a darn good one of that. It toasts everything out there right now, and it is an open question as to whether that crown will be taken before it's hard launch. If not, it will have its day in the sun, and we will all benefit from some refreshing, real, actual, honest-to-goodness competition (remember what that was like?)
Bindibadgi 8th November 2010, 06:58 Quote
A 20W tablet and netbook processor? Good luck with that. ;)

VIA folks told me themselves it's not really aimed at netbooks. It's value laptops, budget 'ultra-thins' and nettop PCs for emerging markets predominantly.
Adnoctum 9th November 2010, 06:58 Quote
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Regardless of the any laptop claims, it is a netbook or mini-tablet processor, and a darn good one of that. It toasts everything out there right now, and it is an open question as to whether that crown will be taken before it's hard launch.

Ha Ha Ha. This is either a terrific troll, or a clueless commentator.

You are incredibly confused I think. You are probably looking at the specifications of all those Chinese tablets running Android floating around, seeing that they have a VIA CPU, and then you mixed them up with the Nano.
Mate, the WM8505 is an ARM-based System-on-Chip design that has nothing to do with the Nano.
andrewf 10th November 2010, 03:59 Quote
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Regardless of the any laptop claims, it is a netbook or mini-tablet processor, and a darn good one of that. It toasts everything out there right now, and it is an open question as to whether that crown will be taken before it's hard launch.

Ha Ha Ha. This is either a terrific troll, or a clueless commentator.

You are incredibly confused I think. You are probably looking at the specifications of all those Chinese tablets running Android floating around, seeing that they have a VIA CPU, and then you mixed them up with the Nano.
Mate, the WM8505 is an ARM-based System-on-Chip design that has nothing to do with the Nano.

Anybody remember the QX9650? It had less than 65w power consumption under load but was rated by Intel at 130 watt TDP despite receiving a 65nm to 45nm die shrink. TDP ratings rarely reflect actual power consumption and can easily be off by 2x, as was the case with that processor.

The article clearly shows the performance is not on par with current good laptop processors like the Core 2 Duo, and why should it be, the die area of that C2D is about twice what the dual core Nano will be in 40nm and the C2D is priced more than double what the Nano needs to be at to make money for VIA. Zacate will also be larger than Nano and cost more. Ontario will probably consume less power but won't perform as well as Nano.

The Nano delivers good performance for netbook applications at what will probably be a low price. If the power consumption really is 25 watts whenever you browse the web, then that is another thing, but that is very unlikely.
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