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Intel Xeon X7560: Nehalem EX Review

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p-dawg86 7th April 2010, 08:34 Quote
Hmm. Interesting. One hell of a price though. Oh and quad-sockets do exist. I used to see them on Newegg all the time with AMD's F series.
p-dawg86 7th April 2010, 08:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by p-dawg86
Hmm. Interesting. One hell of a price though. Oh and quad-sockets do exist. I used to see them on Newegg all the time with AMD's F series.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200302%201071330126&name=Quad%201207(F)
Ph4ZeD 7th April 2010, 08:53 Quote
Folding stats are insane. Shame you'd need a wallet to match :)
Lizard 7th April 2010, 08:55 Quote
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Good spot, but that motherboard is for older Socket F Opterons, not the the new G34 Opterons which launched last week.
Mraedis 7th April 2010, 09:11 Quote
Is it me, or are the benchmarks rather disappointing? :?
confusis 7th April 2010, 10:23 Quote
4 of these setups and we'll rush up the team charts in F@H!

Anyone have a wad of dosh they want to blow on scientific research?
Gonzalo-Gonads 7th April 2010, 10:57 Quote
I want to see a 256 socket motherboard!!!
Tangster 7th April 2010, 11:11 Quote
Seems that 2 dual socket opterons would be more efficent for folders though, the power consuption on that thing is huge.
rickysio 7th April 2010, 11:16 Quote
I want to see what happens when you chain 64 of these motherboards with 4 CPUs each and Fold...

As F@H has roughly 75% efficiency with addition of 1 more core (I calculated based on the PPD), I guess...
114958 * 64 * 75% = 5517984
yanglu 7th April 2010, 12:24 Quote
How can the power consumption be 1.13KW when the TDP of each CPU is supposed to be 130W? 4 x 130 = 520W... What on earth is eating the remaining 600W!!!????
murtoz 7th April 2010, 13:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mraedis
Is it me, or are the benchmarks rather disappointing? :?

No, simply the wrong benchmarks to run on a system like this.
Lizard 7th April 2010, 13:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by yanglu
How can the power consumption be 1.13KW when the TDP of each CPU is supposed to be 130W? 4 x 130 = 520W... What on earth is eating the remaining 600W!!!????

There's a lot more hardware in the system than just the CPUs. For example, there are two chipsets on the motherboard, not one. There are also 16 AMBs and a lot more memory.
TAG 7th April 2010, 13:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by yanglu
How can the power consumption be 1.13KW when the TDP of each CPU is supposed to be 130W? 4 x 130 = 520W... What on earth is eating the remaining 600W!!!????

I wouldn't be surprised if the massive 128GB RAM drained in excess of 350W on it's own.

If you recall the "Energy Efficient Hardware Investigated" article you can see that dropping an intel platform from 2x2GB 1.5v 1333MHz memory to 1.35 drops the overall power consumption 11W. So it's fair to say the 4GB consume more than 11W.
The nehalem system embarks 32 times as much memory, granted it's only 1066Mhz but you can see where I'm going:
32x11=352W

So we have 130W (TDP) x 4 and 350W that brings the total to 840W.
Add to this the motherboard itself, the efficiency of the PSU (+20%) and you wouldn't be very far off.
Gradius 7th April 2010, 15:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gonzalo-Gonads
I want to see a 256 socket motherboard!!!

You'll never see that. Isn't practical at all.
Gradius 7th April 2010, 15:17 Quote
AFAIK, 8 socket and up are available through specifc resellers only.
HourBeforeDawn 7th April 2010, 19:12 Quote
Is it me or overall did the 2 x AMD Opteron 6174 seem lke the better way to go? and Im sure for a hell of a lot less making it a better choice for at least the small time server out of your home or small business the way to go.

However staring at all those threads on the performance screen shot still makes you want to drool a bit. :)
Lizard 7th April 2010, 19:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Is it me or overall did the 2 x AMD Opteron 6174 seem lke the better way to go? and Im sure for a hell of a lot less making it a better choice for at least the small time server out of your home or small business the way to go.

Yes, a quad-processor server is complete overkill for any small business - both in terms of the hardware cost and the running cost (power, cooling, space). That said, depending on your requirements, a pair of Xeon X5650s would probably be better than a pair of Opteron 6174s.
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However staring at all those threads on the performance screen shot still makes you want to drool a bit. :)

Grin :)
DogBoy 7th April 2010, 23:02 Quote
Why run the LightWave test on only 2 threads on a 32 thread monster? No wonder this machine underperformed. If you get a chance to retest this machine, possibly you could set Multithreading to "Automatic" (under Render Globals). It might give a clearer idea of the power of this machine.
Lizard 7th April 2010, 23:13 Quote
The Lightwave test was run with the automatic setting, so was rendering on 16 threads (the maximum that 9.6 supports. I presume you thought it was run on two threads because of the screenshot? If so, that's a generic shot (actually my desktop work PC), not the Nehalem EX system.
Elton 7th April 2010, 23:45 Quote
This is quite impressive, although it's acutal use is a bit limited.
DogBoy 8th April 2010, 08:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lizard
The Lightwave test was run with the automatic setting, so was rendering on 16 threads (the maximum that 9.6 supports. I presume you thought it was run on two threads because of the screenshot? If so, that's a generic shot (actually my desktop work PC), not the Nehalem EX system.

My mistake. I'm kind of surprised as I find it scales pretty well with more cores. Anyway thanks for clearing that up.
overdoze 19th June 2011, 19:44 Quote
Something must went wrong with Folding review for bigadv

For example from our folding rigs:

2x xenon 5650 at 4ghz yield 11 mins frame time or 179,000 points per day
4x opteron 6172 at 2.1ghz yield 6'10 frame time or 400,000 points per day

http://f.tkaraoke.com/bd.png
What the review means to me is, it's a waste of money to buy this system
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