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Intel Core i7 - Nehalem Architecture Dive

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Langer 3rd November 2008, 06:32 Quote
Sounds very promising.
RotoSequence 3rd November 2008, 06:44 Quote
Looks interesting, but there's a strong overtone of reservation in the article. Were you perchance thinking "why is everything but the execution core changed?"
Adnoctum 3rd November 2008, 07:13 Quote
I'm unsure of BitTech's feeling on links to competing sites, so I don't know if I'm committing a massive faux pas or what.

TechReport previewed two X58 mobos (Intel DX58SO, Asus P6T Deluxe) hitched up to a Core i7-965 Extreme. It includes some benchmarks.
They can't give an i7 preview yet, but you can compare specific application performance figures with a big CPU comparison review they did in April on the Q9300.

I'm not too impressed by the i7 just yet, and this architecture briefing explains why. Hugely more expensive (both CPU and entire platform), with mixed performance results.

BTW, P6T FTW. Cheaper and faster.
xtremeownage 3rd November 2008, 07:17 Quote
Any new processor that requires a new socket is an expensive upgrade. Intel can forget getting my money for a while because the q6600 hasn't even been pushed to its limits let alone have all the 4 cores running at 100% load at any given time. Hardly any game as come to this point. Alan Wake may in fact pull this 1 off but even then the xbox 360 has 3 cores so why bother upgrading from q6600 to i7 when the 360 price has fallen dramatically for us gamers.

From a a developers point of view whether it be 3d animation and other intensive tasks then maybe they can consider these new processors. I would like to also stress the introduction of Physic cores in graphics card play a better role in processing physics calculations. Adobe and other companies use Nvidia GPU Cores to run software intensive tasks these days and the performance gains are phenomenal. I really don't see the point of upgrading if you already own the latest GPU's from Nvidia and ATi riding shot gun along side a Q6600.
Tim S 3rd November 2008, 07:25 Quote
there is a full i7 performance breakdown coming... we're just triple checking everything before hitting fire :)
Singularity 3rd November 2008, 08:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tim S
there is a full i7 performance breakdown coming... we're just triple checking everything before hitting fire :)

Coming today, or...? Sorry, just can't wait to see benchmarks :D
Tim S 3rd November 2008, 08:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Singularity
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
there is a full i7 performance breakdown coming... we're just triple checking everything before hitting fire :)

Coming today, or...? Sorry, just can't wait to see benchmarks :D

yes :)
Kúsař 3rd November 2008, 09:06 Quote
1366 BGA balls...now that's a real challange for motherboard manufacturers. Did intel make any changes to that stupid cooler mounting system? Or at least recommended back plate(like AMD boards use) to MB manufacturers? And god forbid they use micro BGA balls...
djDEATH 3rd November 2008, 15:03 Quote
win and want

i think unless somethign rather spectacular happens, i may have to throw in my AMD fanboy towel for the last time (sniff)

i was really really hoping that something amazing was going to happen and a magical Phenom that actually doesn't suck balls would appear.. alas its never going to happen
Redbeaver 3rd November 2008, 16:08 Quote
DFI Lanparty X58 certified for 3-way SLI............


*drool*
Cupboard 3rd November 2008, 20:02 Quote
One day I will even be able to understand everything that you say!

quick question: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/11/03/intel-core-i7-nehalem-architecture-dive/5
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It has moulded a power efficient pipeline originating from P6-Pentium M-Core-Core 2 era with the resource efficient width that Pentium 4 later tried to achieve.
P6? is that P3?

edit: love the writing on this picture:
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2008/11/intel-core-i7-nehalem-architecture-dive/ich10c-8.jpg
*Alex* 3rd November 2008, 23:26 Quote
id like to be able to get an i7 setup as rendering is taxing my q6600 and would liek to see how much better these are.
Shadowed_fury 4th November 2008, 04:22 Quote
above reported. ^^


I dunno whether to hold on for i7, or not. Tough choice.
willyolio 4th November 2008, 04:51 Quote
honestly, while this undoubtedly is a very powerful architecture, i just can't get excited about it. i seriously can't think of a single time in the past year where i've been aching for more CPU power. GPU, for sure. but CPUs? even budget processors have enough power for me, so another high-end product really doesn't make a difference.
Shielder 4th November 2008, 13:13 Quote
Why all the fuss over 8 threads on a 4 core chip. I'm using a Sun chip with 32 threads on a 4 core chip. True, it isn't as fast as a P3, but, 32 threads!!!

Heh, okay, so I want an i7, who wouldn't? I'll just keep my Q6600 soldiering on for another year or two and then think about upgrading.

Andy
r4tch3t 11th November 2008, 09:33 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cupboard
One day I will even be able to understand everything that you say!

quick question: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/11/03/intel-core-i7-nehalem-architecture-dive/5
P6? is that P3?

edit: love the writing on this picture:
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2008/11/intel-core-i7-nehalem-architecture-dive/ich10c-8.jpg
It is the P3, the P6 is the sixth gen Intel architecture that was in the P3, the Pentium M used that as a base for it's architecture.
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