Sounds nice, but I think I'd rather go for an X2 setup. Especially as I multitask quite a bit, and the real-world gaming results are about the same across the line. A fun bench to throw in there would be xvid encoding while mp3 ripping (or something like that), just to see how the extra mhz compares to a second core in multitasking.
It's only "crappy" at high resolution gaming, when you are heavily GPU limited - I'm sure Tim will be benching 7800GTX SLI on it at some point to test that theory. The X2 is arguably a better buy in terms of future-proofing, but let's just see how pricing settles down after the initial demand is satisfied
the higher resolutions are there as they are more 'realistic' settings that you might use for real-world gaming... that is the theory behind including those results. surely you arent going to buy an X2 4800+ or FX57 and game at minimum detail. :)
Originally Posted by Stephen Brooks I'm amused by the way you don't include any Intel processors _at all_, presumably on the assumption that they'll all be crap.
I've not had a working intel platform available to me for about 2 months now - it's frustrating. Hopefully that will change very soon when I have a look at some stuff that arrived the other day.
Originally Posted by Stephen Brooks I'm amused by the way you don't include any Intel processors _at all_, presumably on the assumption that they'll all be crap.
Ummm, I don't think I've ever seen a review that was that one-sided by any intent. I would figure biggles has a pretty good reason for that oversight.
Well, here's another review. The P4's aren't doing half bad these days, so I wouldn't go around parading that they're crap for losing by only a few frames a second.
We've made no assumptions that Intel processors are 'crap'. There are a number of reasons to buy an Intel processor ahead of its AMD counterpart, much like there are many reasons to buy an AMD processor ahead of its Intel counterpart.
If you want a gaming system, we believe that an Intel system would be second best, but if you want a fast single cored day to day processor an Intel Pentium 4 with HyperThreading Technology makes a lot of sense. Having said that, a Pentium D 2.8GHz is a better purchase than a similarly priced, 'faster' single-cored Pentium 4 or Athlon 64 for that matter, as you just can't match the smoothness of Dual Core with a Pentium 4 HT CPU or a single cored Athlon 64 for day to day usage and multitask performance.
OK sorry I didn't mean you to take my comment so seriously. I was just left with a funny feeling reading that review and then suddenly thought "Hey, where have the Intel processors gone?"
It's absolutely fine to just compare them to AMD ones if that's what you want to do (or all you're able to do). I don't count leaving something out as bias.
I've also already read that Anandtech article I was referred to. The FX-57 is actually 10-20% faster in games/FPS than the nearest Intel processor in their benchmarks, so I don't know if that's really "only a few frames a second"? The difference between the fastest and the slowest Intel processor is about the same size as that in the three games they tried!
Also I noticed (and nearly commented) in that other review that the 670 was showing superlinear scaling compared to the rest of its 6xx series. I don't know exactly why - all I knew they'd changed in that processor was an enhanced halt state/thermal thing - but anyway, it does kind of just begin to close the gap with AMD if you stand on your head and squint at the graphs.
Originally Posted by padrejones2001 Well, here's another review. The P4's aren't doing half bad these days, so I wouldn't go around parading that they're crap for losing by only a few frames a second.
its more than FPS that matters. What about thermal issue.
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More details on the processors used? afaik theres a 2.6ghz 512kb cache 4000+ and a 2.4ghz 1MB cache 4000+
didn't exactly clot well either :)
value for money... :| nope :)
edit: me thinks it more to do with GPU limitations :)
Re: coolers... I shall see what i can do.
Thats obviously down to reaching the graphics card limit, maybe with the new nvidia 7800 we would see a bigger increase.
the x2 4800+ has beenincluded?
If you want a gaming system, we believe that an Intel system would be second best, but if you want a fast single cored day to day processor an Intel Pentium 4 with HyperThreading Technology makes a lot of sense. Having said that, a Pentium D 2.8GHz is a better purchase than a similarly priced, 'faster' single-cored Pentium 4 or Athlon 64 for that matter, as you just can't match the smoothness of Dual Core with a Pentium 4 HT CPU or a single cored Athlon 64 for day to day usage and multitask performance.
Ah, well, there's always one, eh?
It's absolutely fine to just compare them to AMD ones if that's what you want to do (or all you're able to do). I don't count leaving something out as bias.
I've also already read that Anandtech article I was referred to. The FX-57 is actually 10-20% faster in games/FPS than the nearest Intel processor in their benchmarks, so I don't know if that's really "only a few frames a second"? The difference between the fastest and the slowest Intel processor is about the same size as that in the three games they tried!
Also I noticed (and nearly commented) in that other review that the 670 was showing superlinear scaling compared to the rest of its 6xx series. I don't know exactly why - all I knew they'd changed in that processor was an enhanced halt state/thermal thing - but anyway, it does kind of just begin to close the gap with AMD if you stand on your head and squint at the graphs.
its more than FPS that matters. What about thermal issue.
Intell need to >