we need more testing on other chips.... with the 6 core being so highly priced 400 quid might make a i5 750 competitive for gaming... regardless it'd be a keeper between systems - also could you cool multiple systems?
But although I do agree with the principle of the 5970 (It being the fastest card and all), It still only cracks around 48° at peak.
Whereas the 480 can hit 80°c at peak.
Now I think that to put this baby through it's paces would require at least 1, if not 2, 480s and then see how they perform on the loop, just to see what it can really do.
Sweet! I've just been playing a bit of Alien Swarm and for some reason my lead GPU got up to 107C - hence I'm now on the lookout for some extreme cooling. This may be the answer.
Originally Posted by Bad_cancer Now I think that to put this baby through it's paces would require at least 1, if not 2, 480s and then see how they perform on the loop, just to see what it can really do.
Unfortunately, as we gave the GTX 480 such a bashing, Nvidia (and its partners) don't want to send us cards anymore ;)
It's something that would be interesting to try though.
Originally Posted by Fingers66 Would it simply depend on the flow rate?
That would be the principle limiting factor yes, although that problem could be got around by installing multiple pumps in the loop or a big monster AC pump.
"Unfortunately, as we gave the GTX 480 such a bashing, Nvidia (and its partners) don't want to send us cards anymore "
"Sweet! I've just been playing a bit of Alien Swarm and for some reason my lead GPU got up to 107C - hence I'm now on the lookout for some extreme cooling. This may be the answer."
Originally Posted by Lizard That would be the principle limiting factor yes, although that problem could be got around by installing multiple pumps in the loop or a big monster AC pump.
Hmmm, would one big pump for all rigs work?
We are geting into the realms of modular water cooling now. A number of micro-ATX rigs with SLI GPU's, all watercooled and running through one pump and heat chiller? You could even do it with a rack mounted farm...
Originally Posted by Bad_cancer Now I think that to put this baby through it's paces would require at least 1, if not 2, 480s and then see how they perform on the loop, just to see what it can really do.
Unfortunately, as we gave the GTX 480 such a bashing, Nvidia (and its partners) don't want to send us cards anymore ;)
It's something that would be interesting to try though.
So childish... Honestly I would have thought that it was because you drilled / dremelled it, rather than the fact that you told the truth :p
Ah well...send the chiller over to pete j then, that way we can get an opinion :p
I like it! I just wish it wasn't so spectacularly ugly, and I'm looking forward to the first mod that rehouses the entire shebang in either the base of a V2000, or in it's own case. Seems to solve a lot of the problems with phase-change - namely, that your GPU reaches the surface temperature of the sun, and you have to smother the CPU socket in Vaseline - without crushing the performance.
My system holds an i7 920 at 4.2ghz (-41c load), 4.6ghz (-39c), 4.96ghz (-35c, MAX board FSB 236) which is nice, and cost me less than this water cooler unit :P
Curious to see how cold an 980X or 970 would sit on this system.
Putting that to one side... Keeping an overclocked 5970 and an 980x at those speeds and temps is very respectable I must say!
I was always under the impression that going below ambient opened up a can of condensation or two ?
Was there no possibility of condensation anywhere ?
I would have thought that with liquid entering the CPU block at 14°C odd, it would have droplets of water forming on the tube, and maybe on the cpu block ?
Looing good, I would've considered one if it was noise-free (or at least like a few case fans) and if it was in the region of +/- £300.
Always thought of building something similar myself. The basterds beat me to it. I guess I can forget that patent now :( ;p
The noise kills it for me. My PC is all air cooled and it's practically silent. The PSU is completely silent, and the CPU and case fans are Sharkoon golf ball 1000's so they are barely audible. It's also using a SSD.
The only real noise is the graphics card when it kicks up, but that only happens in the middle of gaming when I have my speakers turned up anyway.
So if I was to 'upgrade' to a water cooling setup, although I could get everything cooler and overclock higher, I would definitely be looking to at least match this kind of volume.
Originally Posted by Evildead666 I was always under the impression that going below ambient opened up a can of condensation or two ?
Condensation wil occur yes, but this isn't a problem if it stays on the tubing/waterblock and doesn't bead. Beading is when the condensation reaches a level where it gets so large it drops off the tubing. At that point, you're in a world of hurt, unless you have protected your PC.
"You can avoid beading one of two ways: either protect your components with a moisture absorbing material such as neoprene pads, or set the coolant temperature to be above the dew point (the temperature at which condensation starts to form) of the room. You can calculate the dew point in your room using this calculator. Fortunately, the HC-500A allows you to control the coolant temperature in 1°C steps, via the small screen and the three buttons on the front panel."
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ReplyLooks like a nice bit of kit, though.
But although I do agree with the principle of the 5970 (It being the fastest card and all), It still only cracks around 48° at peak.
Whereas the 480 can hit 80°c at peak.
Now I think that to put this baby through it's paces would require at least 1, if not 2, 480s and then see how they perform on the loop, just to see what it can really do.
Just my 2c. :D
Unfortunately, as we gave the GTX 480 such a bashing, Nvidia (and its partners) don't want to send us cards anymore ;)
It's something that would be interesting to try though.
How petty. If they made decent stuff in the first place they wouldn't get such a (well-deserved) slating!
I too would be interested to know if it could cool multiple systems (in parallel). Imagine having one cooling setup for multiple rigs...
Would it simply depend on the flow rate?
Water cooled folding farm anyone? It would work out more efficient than independent w/c setups for each rig.
That would be the principle limiting factor yes, although that problem could be got around by installing multiple pumps in the loop or a big monster AC pump.
"Sweet! I've just been playing a bit of Alien Swarm and for some reason my lead GPU got up to 107C - hence I'm now on the lookout for some extreme cooling. This may be the answer."
get the box over there man!
;-)
Hmmm, would one big pump for all rigs work?
We are geting into the realms of modular water cooling now. A number of micro-ATX rigs with SLI GPU's, all watercooled and running through one pump and heat chiller? You could even do it with a rack mounted farm...
(pokes Ph4lanx)
So childish... Honestly I would have thought that it was because you drilled / dremelled it, rather than the fact that you told the truth :p
Ah well...send the chiller over to pete j then, that way we can get an opinion :p
Yes, but don't forget that's with a 6-core CPU overclocked to 4.72GHz and a Radeon HD 5970, all at full load.
Nice review of a very special product.
Curious to see how cold an 980X or 970 would sit on this system.
Putting that to one side... Keeping an overclocked 5970 and an 980x at those speeds and temps is very respectable I must say!
Andy
Was there no possibility of condensation anywhere ?
I would have thought that with liquid entering the CPU block at 14°C odd, it would have droplets of water forming on the tube, and maybe on the cpu block ?
Always thought of building something similar myself. The basterds beat me to it. I guess I can forget that patent now :( ;p
The only real noise is the graphics card when it kicks up, but that only happens in the middle of gaming when I have my speakers turned up anyway.
So if I was to 'upgrade' to a water cooling setup, although I could get everything cooler and overclock higher, I would definitely be looking to at least match this kind of volume.
Condensation wil occur yes, but this isn't a problem if it stays on the tubing/waterblock and doesn't bead. Beading is when the condensation reaches a level where it gets so large it drops off the tubing. At that point, you're in a world of hurt, unless you have protected your PC.
"You can avoid beading one of two ways: either protect your components with a moisture absorbing material such as neoprene pads, or set the coolant temperature to be above the dew point (the temperature at which condensation starts to form) of the room. You can calculate the dew point in your room using this calculator. Fortunately, the HC-500A allows you to control the coolant temperature in 1°C steps, via the small screen and the three buttons on the front panel."
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