Personally I would have given this cooler 1/10 for performance. When an aftermarket cooler is barely able to out-do the stock HSF something is seriously afoot.
Does this company do any sort of quality control or testing?!
Its interesting that so many of these coolers with the heatpipes in direct contact with the heat spreader seem to perform worse than the previous generation of coolers without direct contact.
Originally Posted by Cobalt Its interesting that so many of these coolers with the heatpipes in direct contact with the heat spreader seem to perform worse than the previous generation of coolers without direct contact.
my thoughts as well.
or is it the fan? do you guys ever wonder why these coolers have all the makings, then fail so miserably? maybe put a good fan on it just for comment?
Originally Posted by Cobalt Its interesting that so many of these coolers with the heatpipes in direct contact with the heat spreader seem to perform worse than the previous generation of coolers without direct contact.
my thoughts as well.
or is it the fan? do you guys ever wonder why these coolers have all the makings, then fail so miserably? maybe put a good fan on it just for comment?
I think a lot of the time it comes down to the mounting mechanism; newer CPUs (45nm Core 2s, i5 and i7) feature an insane amount of transistors in a very small space, so they're incredibly dense - and actually extracting the heat from the CPU is a problem if the cooler isn't well attached. Large size then exacerbates this problem as the cooler's weight pulls it away from the CPU - it's one reason the stock coolers are always fat and squat, as opposed to the big tower designs a lot of 3rd party HSFs use.
i can see that being a problem...so really, until someone comes out with a new mounting system, we're going to be seeing alot of very average cooling then. what about adding a portion to these reviews that also looks at how much air the stock fans push?
Originally Posted by trig i can see that being a problem...so really, until someone comes out with a new mounting system, we're going to be seeing alot of very average cooling then.
Not necessarily - coolers such as the Titan Fenrir, some of the Noctua models cool brilliantly, so the problem of designing a mounting system for a large tower cooler is not insurmountable.
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what about adding a portion to these reviews that also looks at how much air the stock fans push?
It's something we could do, but I'm curious as to what you think that would really tell you. You've got the cooling results across a variety of systems, and where appropriate, at high and low fan speed settings; in terms of modding the cooler to use a different fan, is that something people would really do? Wouldn't people just go and buy a different HSF?
It's something we could do, but I'm curious as to what you think that would really tell you. You've got the cooling results across a variety of systems, and where appropriate, at high and low fan speed settings; in terms of modding the cooler to use a different fan, is that something people would really do? Wouldn't people just go and buy a different HSF?
I think with people who mod their cases, and like everything to look nice, would change the fan to one with better performance or looks, to suit their case. Obviously this is only the ones who can't afford or manage to cram a watercooling system into their case.
You mentioned in the article that the TIM was strange. What about testing with a known, good TIM. That seems like something that most people would have around anyway.
Originally Posted by Makaveli Maybe i'm missing something but how are your idle temps so low on the 1366 setup??
Is this test done inside a case or open test bench?
Is Hyperthreading on?
What is the ambient room temp?
They aren't the temps, they are the temperature difference between ambient. So the 17 for example you see for idle, is 17 above ambient at the time of the review. Probably something in the mid 30s.
Originally Posted by Sifter3000 It's something we could do, but I'm curious as to what you think that would really tell you. You've got the cooling results across a variety of systems, and where appropriate, at high and low fan speed settings; in terms of modding the cooler to use a different fan, is that something people would really do? Wouldn't people just go and buy a different HSF?
Off hand I imagine that not knowing if the cooler is part of the problem they would go ahead and just buy a different hsf. but if the price was really good, and they knew the fan blew, or didn't blow enough lol, they (or i for sure) would judt grab a better fan.
i also never knew the fenrir had the same direct contact pipe setup...
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Originally Posted by bigdunge You mentioned in the article that the TIM was strange. What about testing with a known, good TIM. That seems like something that most people would have around anyway.
another good point i didnt even think about...you guys aren't using a standard tim? most of us i am sure don't care what it comes with. we are going to use our tim of choice (for me as5). i'm surprised you guys don't, that could really change things...
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ReplyDoes this company do any sort of quality control or testing?!
With specs like that, I was waiting for something to give TRUE and Titan Fenrir real run for their money.
my thoughts as well.
or is it the fan? do you guys ever wonder why these coolers have all the makings, then fail so miserably? maybe put a good fan on it just for comment?
I think a lot of the time it comes down to the mounting mechanism; newer CPUs (45nm Core 2s, i5 and i7) feature an insane amount of transistors in a very small space, so they're incredibly dense - and actually extracting the heat from the CPU is a problem if the cooler isn't well attached. Large size then exacerbates this problem as the cooler's weight pulls it away from the CPU - it's one reason the stock coolers are always fat and squat, as opposed to the big tower designs a lot of 3rd party HSFs use.
lol...spaceballs
Not necessarily - coolers such as the Titan Fenrir, some of the Noctua models cool brilliantly, so the problem of designing a mounting system for a large tower cooler is not insurmountable.
It's something we could do, but I'm curious as to what you think that would really tell you. You've got the cooling results across a variety of systems, and where appropriate, at high and low fan speed settings; in terms of modding the cooler to use a different fan, is that something people would really do? Wouldn't people just go and buy a different HSF?
I think with people who mod their cases, and like everything to look nice, would change the fan to one with better performance or looks, to suit their case. Obviously this is only the ones who can't afford or manage to cram a watercooling system into their case.
Is this test done inside a case or open test bench?
Is Hyperthreading on?
What is the ambient room temp?
They aren't the temps, they are the temperature difference between ambient. So the 17 for example you see for idle, is 17 above ambient at the time of the review. Probably something in the mid 30s.
Off hand I imagine that not knowing if the cooler is part of the problem they would go ahead and just buy a different hsf. but if the price was really good, and they knew the fan blew, or didn't blow enough lol, they (or i for sure) would judt grab a better fan.
i also never knew the fenrir had the same direct contact pipe setup...
another good point i didnt even think about...you guys aren't using a standard tim? most of us i am sure don't care what it comes with. we are going to use our tim of choice (for me as5). i'm surprised you guys don't, that could really change things...
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