I may consider this for my next project, however if you mount the rad with cooling lines on the side instead of on bottom or top and at equal hieght as the cpu you should achieve come convection flow throught the system in the event of a pump failure.
Very nice and consistent temps. and no refilling or cleaning.
[QUOTE=Bindibadgi;2054168]If you read the above that is put underneath the AMD graph, to explain it, not once do I allude it was to the CPU alone.
AMD/Intel CPUs are simply heat generators. No one CPU is representative of an entire socket. If anyone claims to test "AMD" alone is misinforming their readers. The only thing you can test is how easy it is to install on that socket and if the contact works effectively, but other than that, all a heatsink has to do is suck away the heat generated. All our CPUs are over volted in a "typical overclock" but there's no way we could test every CPU, every overclock, every motherboard, etc. What is tested is a typical system: an environment. NOT a CPU.
From your accusation about meanless testing we might as well not test in a case at all or might as well just used a hotplate of CPU surface area size.
If we had only used a Stacker in all our tests we would conclude that the H50 is fantastic and would recommend it for everyone, which is clearly NOT the case. Some people would buy it and get worse temps than they would have with a cheaper CPU cooler because their case is better designed to make use of that instead if it doesn't have many intake fans.
I do concede perhaps we should test cases and CPUs separately but it would not represent a real world environment or system, and it would take an exponential amount of time considering the MANY inevitable requests we would have to review x, y, z case. It's simply infeasible for any review site. Perhaps we should use three entirely different cases representing three completely different builds?
Any graph out of context can direct wrong information and assumption, that's why we add the entire setup list and results discussion to explain our findings.
A respectfull suggestion, perhaps consider performing any cpu cooling or any cooling tests
in a room 70 F-75 F with the complete system out of a case on a bench so that there are no case air flow issues to skew the temps.
A consistency of performing bench test's in a room within 5 F (or C) with clear unrestricted air flow will show the product being tested's ability to remove heat in a controlled enviorement.
And then the consumer will know that by the test's if thier "upgrading" from a system that had lower test result do not show better cooling then it's thier system air flow is an issue.
NOT in any way being disrespectfull just making an observation and suggestion.
As you said testing in each different case is impossible but a bench test in a controlled enviroment is a "standard" for comparison.
Hey guys, I must have something wrong about my installation cause my results aren't anywhere near the ones obtained at this test (and by the majority of the people).
I'm using my Hydro H50 with a i7 920 CPU and my case is the Cooler Master 690 II Advanced, I respected the fabricant instructions and I have the fan intaking air through the radiator in the back of the case. So resuming, I have 1 fan intaking air in the front, another fan, the H50 fan, intaking air through the radiator in the back, and 2 fans in the top of the case exhausting air. My motherboard is the ASUS P6X58D Premium and I took the care to connect the pump to the power fan connector (which they say it's allways at max power), and still my temperatures in the cores (measured with realtemp) are:
Any ideas about what is going wrong here? I was honestly expecting better performances from this cooler, so I reckon I must be doing something wrong...
zesbotte,
fwiw
i,ve got one installed on i7 930 oc 4.00 on the same mobo...push pull into case ( 800d case). 3 fans on top taking heat out.
my temps are identical to yours.... using coretemp
i've wondered if i put the heat transfer paste on incorrectly. (too much)
not sure on the pump connector ...will chk it. ..
thanks for posting your temps ..I was wondering the same thing.
thinking of trying the Chill tech thermoelectric but haven't given up on h50 yet.
i built this thing to game so when i tire of gaming i work on the problems.
Originally Posted by whamio zesbotte,
fwiw
i,ve got one installed on i7 930 oc 4.00 on the same mobo...push pull into case ( 800d case). 3 fans on top taking heat out.
my temps are identical to yours.... using coretemp
i've wondered if i put the heat transfer paste on incorrectly. (too much)
not sure on the pump connector ...will chk it. ..
thanks for posting your temps ..I was wondering the same thing.
thinking of trying the Chill tech thermoelectric but haven't given up on h50 yet.
i built this thing to game so when i tire of gaming i work on the problems.
I've got one too and I can't get anywhere near those results. I'd be very satisfied if I could reach your temps.
My rig:- Corsair Hydro Series H50 with 2 fans.
Cooler Master CM Storm Sniper Black with an extra 140mm fan in the floor a Scythe Slip Stream SM1425SL12H
ASUS P6X58D-E
Core i7 I7-930 8 MB
Corsair Dominator 3 x 2 GB
Sapphire RADEON HD 5970 with Arctic Cooling Accelero XTREME 5970
or 2 x Saphire HD4890 in CrossfireX. I've tried both setups.
I've tried intake and exhaust mode and even with the HD4890s blowing all their warm air out the back. My temps are dangerously high when gaming with a modest OC of 3.6GHz.
After a half hour of online Battlefield Bad Company 2 I'm up, way up over 70 degrees, 75-78 degrees infact. Let's not get started on stress test temps!
My room temp is 22-23 degrees and my idle is 48-49 degrees.
So I've either got a very hot CPU or a dud H50. I don't think my case is to blame, with a 200mm intake fan at the front and a 140mm fan in the floor. A 240mm in the side and 2 x 120mm on the H50. I've lately installed an extra 120mm fan top front just to try something, but it has no effect.
I'm stumped.
Any ideas?
ps. I must say, I find it surprising that the temps in the review are so low. After reading reviews on other websites.
for example http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_h50_review/4
Those temps are nearer mine and contradict the temps in this review especially with regard to the H50 soundly beating the Noctua NH-D14. A result i haven't seen before.
How can two well established and respected websites have so different results.?
One of you got it wrong....
[/QUOTE]....especially with regard to the H50 soundly beating the Noctua NH-D14. A result i haven't seen before.....[/QUOTE]
Yeah... sorry I am mixing your reviews a bit. I saw in one of your Akasa cooler reviews, that the Noctua NH-D14 got the same results as the ThermalTake 120 xxxx in this review. I find that hard to believe.
Sorry to necro this thread, but I'm getting similar temps to the posters above, 46° idle & topping 70° at full load. I have an i7 920 in an antec 1200 using 1 intake on the radiator. I think my main problem is it's not getting much cool air to suck in. my room temp is around 20°, the case is sitting on top of a desk but the area behind it is always a lot hotter even with around 6-8" clearance. I've been trying to find a way to redirect cooler air to the back of the case but to no avail.
The case has 3 intake fans at the front, a large roof exhaust, and 2 exhaust fans at the back, the lower of which is now the intake for the radiator. It seems that the hot air is moving out through the upper rear exhaust & getting sucked straight back through the lower radiator again, but I can't be 100% sure on that.
I hadn't really thought too much of the temps as while gaming it never reached above 60°, but while starting up my smp bigadv folding after a break from it thats when I noticed how high the temps were getting & realised something wasn't right.
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ReplyVery nice and consistent temps. and no refilling or cleaning.
AMD/Intel CPUs are simply heat generators. No one CPU is representative of an entire socket. If anyone claims to test "AMD" alone is misinforming their readers. The only thing you can test is how easy it is to install on that socket and if the contact works effectively, but other than that, all a heatsink has to do is suck away the heat generated. All our CPUs are over volted in a "typical overclock" but there's no way we could test every CPU, every overclock, every motherboard, etc. What is tested is a typical system: an environment. NOT a CPU.
From your accusation about meanless testing we might as well not test in a case at all or might as well just used a hotplate of CPU surface area size.
If we had only used a Stacker in all our tests we would conclude that the H50 is fantastic and would recommend it for everyone, which is clearly NOT the case. Some people would buy it and get worse temps than they would have with a cheaper CPU cooler because their case is better designed to make use of that instead if it doesn't have many intake fans.
I do concede perhaps we should test cases and CPUs separately but it would not represent a real world environment or system, and it would take an exponential amount of time considering the MANY inevitable requests we would have to review x, y, z case. It's simply infeasible for any review site. Perhaps we should use three entirely different cases representing three completely different builds?
Any graph out of context can direct wrong information and assumption, that's why we add the entire setup list and results discussion to explain our findings.
A respectfull suggestion, perhaps consider performing any cpu cooling or any cooling tests
in a room 70 F-75 F with the complete system out of a case on a bench so that there are no case air flow issues to skew the temps.
A consistency of performing bench test's in a room within 5 F (or C) with clear unrestricted air flow will show the product being tested's ability to remove heat in a controlled enviorement.
And then the consumer will know that by the test's if thier "upgrading" from a system that had lower test result do not show better cooling then it's thier system air flow is an issue.
NOT in any way being disrespectfull just making an observation and suggestion.
As you said testing in each different case is impossible but a bench test in a controlled enviroment is a "standard" for comparison.
I'm using my Hydro H50 with a i7 920 CPU and my case is the Cooler Master 690 II Advanced, I respected the fabricant instructions and I have the fan intaking air through the radiator in the back of the case. So resuming, I have 1 fan intaking air in the front, another fan, the H50 fan, intaking air through the radiator in the back, and 2 fans in the top of the case exhausting air. My motherboard is the ASUS P6X58D Premium and I took the care to connect the pump to the power fan connector (which they say it's allways at max power), and still my temperatures in the cores (measured with realtemp) are:
Room Temp: +/- 20ºC
Idle: +/- 40ºC
Gaming: +/- 53ºC
Stress Testing: +/- 64ºC
Any ideas about what is going wrong here? I was honestly expecting better performances from this cooler, so I reckon I must be doing something wrong...
fwiw
i,ve got one installed on i7 930 oc 4.00 on the same mobo...push pull into case ( 800d case). 3 fans on top taking heat out.
my temps are identical to yours.... using coretemp
i've wondered if i put the heat transfer paste on incorrectly. (too much)
not sure on the pump connector ...will chk it. ..
thanks for posting your temps ..I was wondering the same thing.
thinking of trying the Chill tech thermoelectric but haven't given up on h50 yet.
i built this thing to game so when i tire of gaming i work on the problems.
I've got one too and I can't get anywhere near those results. I'd be very satisfied if I could reach your temps.
My rig:- Corsair Hydro Series H50 with 2 fans.
Cooler Master CM Storm Sniper Black with an extra 140mm fan in the floor a Scythe Slip Stream SM1425SL12H
ASUS P6X58D-E
Core i7 I7-930 8 MB
Corsair Dominator 3 x 2 GB
Sapphire RADEON HD 5970 with Arctic Cooling Accelero XTREME 5970
or 2 x Saphire HD4890 in CrossfireX. I've tried both setups.
I've tried intake and exhaust mode and even with the HD4890s blowing all their warm air out the back. My temps are dangerously high when gaming with a modest OC of 3.6GHz.
After a half hour of online Battlefield Bad Company 2 I'm up, way up over 70 degrees, 75-78 degrees infact. Let's not get started on stress test temps!
My room temp is 22-23 degrees and my idle is 48-49 degrees.
So I've either got a very hot CPU or a dud H50. I don't think my case is to blame, with a 200mm intake fan at the front and a 140mm fan in the floor. A 240mm in the side and 2 x 120mm on the H50. I've lately installed an extra 120mm fan top front just to try something, but it has no effect.
I'm stumped.
Any ideas?
ps. I must say, I find it surprising that the temps in the review are so low. After reading reviews on other websites.
for example http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_h50_review/4
Those temps are nearer mine and contradict the temps in this review especially with regard to the H50 soundly beating the Noctua NH-D14. A result i haven't seen before.
How can two well established and respected websites have so different results.?
One of you got it wrong....
Yeah... sorry I am mixing your reviews a bit. I saw in one of your Akasa cooler reviews, that the Noctua NH-D14 got the same results as the ThermalTake 120 xxxx in this review. I find that hard to believe.
The case has 3 intake fans at the front, a large roof exhaust, and 2 exhaust fans at the back, the lower of which is now the intake for the radiator. It seems that the hot air is moving out through the upper rear exhaust & getting sucked straight back through the lower radiator again, but I can't be 100% sure on that.
I hadn't really thought too much of the temps as while gaming it never reached above 60°, but while starting up my smp bigadv folding after a break from it thats when I noticed how high the temps were getting & realised something wasn't right.
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