Author: Anthony Leather. He's not on the about-page, so i'm assuming this is a CPC-review in disguise? And I agree with the sentiment above that you cannot properly review a heatsink without comparing it to the TRUE, a bit of kit that has bested everything you guys ever threw at it, plus you gave it an award.
On top of that, you score it a 9/10 and give it no rewards... i'mconfused
Author: Anthony Leather. He's not on the about-page, so i'm assuming this is a CPC-review in disguise? And I agree with the sentiment above that you cannot properly review a heatsink without comparing it to the TRUE, a bit of kit that has bested everything you guys ever threw at it, plus you gave it an award.
On top of that, you score it a 9/10 and give it no rewards... i'mconfused
If it were a real Bit-Tech review, one of the guys would have answered our queries, the same thing happened with the Swifttech H20 test, the author never responded to our valid questions.
Originally Posted by Turbotab Buy it:), what cooler are you using at the moment?
Stock cooler... system not overclcoked... I've just been waituing, deciding what to buy.. so imagine how disappointed I was with this essentially... strange test.
Anyone else get the feeling that Bit Tech and CPC don't actually talk to one another?
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Originally Posted by Turbotab If it were a real Bit-Tech review, one of the guys would have answered our queries, the same thing happened with the Swifttech H20 test, the author never responded to our valid questions.
Originally Posted by Mankz Did it not get a reccomended award? I couldn't see one
Very strange. I uploaded one this morning!!
EDIT: My fault. I labelled it .gif and not .jpg
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Originally Posted by numanoid you can use this with the am3, i use it to cool my phenom 955 black edition, the only problem is, i cant get my side panel on, and im using a huge coolermaster cosmos s case,
i did finaly get the side panel on but i had to remove the large side panel fan
The same with any 120mm heatsink and case with fan side. Lian Li's and Akasa's that are thinner are potentially more prone.
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PS if you do use this for am3 take into account that it does not mount the same as the intel, on am3 board you can either have the fan pointing towards the roof of the case or to the bottom, NOT to the back or front,
This is true for all AMD socket heatsinks - very, very few allow a variety of orientations.
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with the fenrir pointing down on my am3 board there was only a small gap between the fan and the graphic card, look at the pics in my profile under "my pc"
Depends on your motherboard and how low the first graphics card slot is tbh.
Author: Anthony Leather. He's not on the about-page, so i'm assuming this is a CPC-review in disguise? And I agree with the sentiment above that you cannot properly review a heatsink without comparing it to the TRUE, a bit of kit that has bested everything you guys ever threw at it, plus you gave it an award.
I have the TRUE results for LGA1366, as well as these for the Domino ALC review I'm doing for next week and I will drop them in shortly. :)
Titan are also making a 140mm version too but honestly, I can't see how those things will fit in mosts cases.
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If it were a real Bit-Tech review, one of the guys would have answered our queries, the same thing happened with the Swifttech H20 test, the author never responded to our valid questions.
It's a Sunday!! Jeez, just because you lot want to sit inside :P:P
I would personally still buy a TRUE120 if I were to air cool, runs awesomely passively and you can chuck 2 fans on if you want. Plus nickel plating just looks awesome.
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi I have the TRUE results for LGA1366, as well as these for the Domino ALC review I'm doing for next week and I will drop them in shortly. :)
Titan are also making a 140mm version too but honestly, I can't see how those things will fit in mosts cases.
It's a Sunday!! Jeez, just because you lot want to sit inside :P:P
Bindi, the comment was not aimed at you Bit-Tech guys, you always respond to us plebs. But this review is indicative of a worrying trend, CPC derived reviews lack the interaction that your articles provide. The Swifttech H20 author, never replied to various queries. Also IMHO, the Fenrir review is not up to your high standards.
Originally Posted by Turbotab Bindi, the comment was not aimed at you Bit-Tech guys, you always respond to us plebs. But this review is indicative of a worrying trend, CPC derived reviews lack the interaction that your articles provide. The Swifttech H20 author, never replied to various queries. Also IMHO, the Fenrir review is not up to your high standards.
I wouldn't call it a trend at all. Give the guys a chance to learn to write for a different audience! ;) Go look at bit-tech reviews from 2006 :P
Bindi, please see our bitching and moaning as a personal compliment. Reviews on Bit-Tech have always been fantastic, and anything less just ruins the magic. I also agree with you on the 'sunday' point, i didn't expect to get an answer anytime before tomorrow.
However, i do wonder how a heatsink review without the TRUE can make it on the site. Especially the "king of the hill" statements seem rather odd if you exclude the old king of the hill. It's like somebody that's never seen Salma Hayek in from dusk till dawn saying "that was the sexiest thing i ever saw" about something else. It's just... wrong! :(
Originally Posted by Turbotab If it were a real Bit-Tech review, one of the guys would have answered our queries, the same thing happened with the Swifttech H20 test, the author never responded to our valid questions.
Hi guys. I wrote the review and sorry for not replying, as Bindi eluded to, it went live this morning, it is a Sunday and I have been out all day for a change! I can promise you that the CPC and Bit teams do talk (we're at the same desk for crying out loud!), in fact we are one big team now tbh and we're striving to unify all our test methods. Sorry for not including the TRUE - it was a time limitation thing in that we had a list of other HSFs that needed testing too but hopefully we'll get some results for those that are interested and plug them in to these graphs.
I can't wrap my head around these figures. Last October a full load Delta T of 22 degrees was top dog, now it's 38 degrees (in a S775 system). Is a Xeon X3210 that much hotter than a Pentium XE 955? Are the charts labelled correctly? Is there a fault in the previous or current monitoring software? Am I missing something?
Last June you introduced a standardised testing procedure, but are all comparisons now meaningless?
Originally Posted by Red 5 I can't wrap my head around these figures. Last October a full load Delta T of 22 degrees was top dog, now it's 38 degrees (in a S775 system). Is a Xeon X3210 that much hotter than a Pentium XE 955? Are the charts labelled correctly? Is there a fault in the previous or current monitoring software? Am I missing something?
Last June you introduced a standardised testing procedure, but are all comparisons now meaningless?
Since we've moved to Dennis we're working with CustomPC to standardise our testing methodology. For this review we used Custom's kit, but I'll look into re-clarifying our cooling testing methodology in the future. And yes, the Xeon X3210 really is that much hotter than the XE 955 - mental I know. Obviously the vast majority of S775 parts will perform a good 20°C+ cooler than this.
Originally Posted by bogie170 How about the Fenrir with a Noctua Fan on it? Would that cut noise levels much?
The Fenrir's 120mm fan at full speed does 2,200rpm so it's not really comparible with any Noctua fan - even the NF-P12 only does 1,300rpm. Could be worth it to obtain a happy medium but the stock fan is very quiet at minimum speed and seems to perform well.
FYI we've added the results for the TRUE to the 1366 graph and revised the 1366 section accordingly.
Originally Posted by Baz Since we've moved to Dennis we're working with CustomPC to standardise our testing methodology. For this review we used Custom's kit, but I'll look into re-clarifying our cooling testing methodology in the future.
Good to know. My faith in bit-tech is restored.;)
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Originally Posted by Baz And yes, the Xeon X3210 really is that much hotter than the XE 955 - mental I know.
Say wha? Well things are a lot clearer now. Thanks Baz.
The Fenrir has a degree or so advantage with a 2200rpm fan... = noisy. The TRUE with 1600rpm fan is almost as good, and if I wish, can add a better fan if need be... or even another 1600 fan in push pull.
The IFX14 is just stupid.
TRUE it is. I'm off to scan later.
I'll also post up results, as at the moment, my temps are around 90 degrees running Prime95 small FFT test at stock voltages/speed with the stock Intel HSF, which seems higher than everyone else is getting. If I can get mine cool enough for a stable 4GHz OC using the TRUE, then it is indeed impressive.
I just wondered if someone can explain how this reviews shows an i7 with a temp of 17C at idle? How is that possible? I get about 35C with my 920 after ive started up windows.
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ReplyAuthor: Anthony Leather. He's not on the about-page, so i'm assuming this is a CPC-review in disguise? And I agree with the sentiment above that you cannot properly review a heatsink without comparing it to the TRUE, a bit of kit that has bested everything you guys ever threw at it, plus you gave it an award.
On top of that, you score it a 9/10 and give it no rewards... i'mconfused
If it were a real Bit-Tech review, one of the guys would have answered our queries, the same thing happened with the Swifttech H20 test, the author never responded to our valid questions.
Stock cooler... system not overclcoked... I've just been waituing, deciding what to buy.. so imagine how disappointed I was with this essentially... strange test.
Anyone else get the feeling that Bit Tech and CPC don't actually talk to one another?
I agree.
Looks like people using it have only possitive things to say.
except me lol
Very strange. I uploaded one this morning!!
EDIT: My fault. I labelled it .gif and not .jpg
The same with any 120mm heatsink and case with fan side. Lian Li's and Akasa's that are thinner are potentially more prone.
This is true for all AMD socket heatsinks - very, very few allow a variety of orientations.
Depends on your motherboard and how low the first graphics card slot is tbh.
The Thermaltake IFX-14 is pushing my luck I think. It's between the TRUE, Fenrir and Magahalems.
Can't decide.
Any comment on my the TRUE was left out of this review?
Isn't that like doing a group test of 2dr GT Coupés and not including the BMW M3?
I have the TRUE results for LGA1366, as well as these for the Domino ALC review I'm doing for next week and I will drop them in shortly. :)
Titan are also making a 140mm version too but honestly, I can't see how those things will fit in mosts cases.
It's a Sunday!! Jeez, just because you lot want to sit inside :P:P
Bindi, the comment was not aimed at you Bit-Tech guys, you always respond to us plebs. But this review is indicative of a worrying trend, CPC derived reviews lack the interaction that your articles provide. The Swifttech H20 author, never replied to various queries. Also IMHO, the Fenrir review is not up to your high standards.
Hey.. in is the new out! :)
I wouldn't call it a trend at all. Give the guys a chance to learn to write for a different audience! ;) Go look at bit-tech reviews from 2006 :P
However, i do wonder how a heatsink review without the TRUE can make it on the site. Especially the "king of the hill" statements seem rather odd if you exclude the old king of the hill. It's like somebody that's never seen Salma Hayek in from dusk till dawn saying "that was the sexiest thing i ever saw" about something else. It's just... wrong! :(
Hi guys. I wrote the review and sorry for not replying, as Bindi eluded to, it went live this morning, it is a Sunday and I have been out all day for a change! I can promise you that the CPC and Bit teams do talk (we're at the same desk for crying out loud!), in fact we are one big team now tbh and we're striving to unify all our test methods. Sorry for not including the TRUE - it was a time limitation thing in that we had a list of other HSFs that needed testing too but hopefully we'll get some results for those that are interested and plug them in to these graphs.
Last June you introduced a standardised testing procedure, but are all comparisons now meaningless?
Since we've moved to Dennis we're working with CustomPC to standardise our testing methodology. For this review we used Custom's kit, but I'll look into re-clarifying our cooling testing methodology in the future. And yes, the Xeon X3210 really is that much hotter than the XE 955 - mental I know. Obviously the vast majority of S775 parts will perform a good 20°C+ cooler than this.
The Fenrir's 120mm fan at full speed does 2,200rpm so it's not really comparible with any Noctua fan - even the NF-P12 only does 1,300rpm. Could be worth it to obtain a happy medium but the stock fan is very quiet at minimum speed and seems to perform well.
FYI we've added the results for the TRUE to the 1366 graph and revised the 1366 section accordingly.
Good to know. My faith in bit-tech is restored.;)
Say wha? Well things are a lot clearer now. Thanks Baz.
Is the IFX-14 really worth it when it could break your MB? Its a heavy beast.
The Fenrir has a degree or so advantage with a 2200rpm fan... = noisy. The TRUE with 1600rpm fan is almost as good, and if I wish, can add a better fan if need be... or even another 1600 fan in push pull.
The IFX14 is just stupid.
TRUE it is. I'm off to scan later.
I'll also post up results, as at the moment, my temps are around 90 degrees running Prime95 small FFT test at stock voltages/speed with the stock Intel HSF, which seems higher than everyone else is getting. If I can get mine cool enough for a stable 4GHz OC using the TRUE, then it is indeed impressive.
I just wondered if someone can explain how this reviews shows an i7 with a temp of 17C at idle? How is that possible? I get about 35C with my 920 after ive started up windows.
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