Published on 21st January 2014 by
Originally Posted by SchizoFrogDamn... After reading the review and studying the images I really though that I had found the ideal mITX case for myself. It's a total winner right up until I realised the storage limitations. While I realise that this is not going to be an issue for the vast majority of those even considering this case but I do need rather than merely want more than just the 2x 3.5" drive bays on offer here.
Once again I find myself saying 'So, so, close... but not perfect'. Why oh why is it so hard to get the case I want? Oh well...
Originally Posted by toolio20OMG sooooooooo close to perfect, why oh why can't they understand what m-ITX is all about???
Originally Posted by LuayFor those who want to use an optical drive and add a 3.5" drive in mitx, this piece is slick.
With the imminent Steam assault on living rooms, 4K gaming, wireless 4k video streaming among other things being the future focus, people want a powerful build with massive storage in a small package. Right?
Well, for the size of the 250D, I'll choose matx. I can still install a mitx motherboard but at least I have a choice to do that with massive radiators or build a GTX 790 quad SLI matx rig.
Lian Li PC-Q28 can handle 280mm video cards and 160mm PSUs and cools acceptably (with the cage removed) for almost %85 the size of the Obsidian 250D. I guess that's as small as it gets for the hardware available.
The real problem with this high end living room concept is the lack of smaller power supplies that can deliver 650W or more at high efficiency with low ripple and noise, and shorter video cards that match GTX 780 and R9 290 performance and cools adequately and quietly. The Silverstone SFX 450W Gold & MSI GTX 760 Gamin ITX are the highest end parts available today for the tiniy tiny builds.
If this is good enough for you, or if you're waiting for something epic to come along in these sizes, then you can have excellent choices for true mitx cases from the likes of Silverstone, Jonsbo (rebranded by Cooltek & Rosewill) and Lian Li.
Originally Posted by CombatusWith PSU's, unless you're going for a setup with two high-end graphics cards then you really don't need a PSU with more than 450W on tap. Even the power-hungry R9 290X drew 426W gaming at 2,560 x 1,600 - admittedly this is quite close for comfort but the £500/$700 780 Ti's total system draw of 402W still leaves you with over 11 per cent headroom.
Originally Posted by SchizoFrogI had to laugh at the idea of worrying about a saving of £30 over a year when running 24/7. So the real world usage savings are more than likely to be sucked up by the initial cost of the more powerful PSU in the first place.
Originally Posted by SchizoFrogBut aren't you still factoring in usage level of full load, 24/7 over a full year? Who's systems run at that level?
Originally Posted by MeanmotionYou do seem to be conflating two issues though, Gareth. Do you need the headroom or the efficiency? Buying a 450W 80Plus Titanium running at 100W will get you almost the same efficiency (92% compared to 91%) as a 900W 80 Plus Gold supply running at 50%.
Originally Posted by MeanmotionTypo - 100%, not 100W.
Originally Posted by Shirty[snip] How long would that it take me to break even based on 730 hours use a year? Answers on a postcard please.
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