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Lian Li PC-8FIR Review

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cool_dude 31st August 2010, 10:51 Quote
Dont think they're products are worth no where near their sale price I mean £250 for that who buys that?
rojo 31st August 2010, 11:35 Quote
Someone that doesn't have a phobia of spiders, thats for sure.
firestarter03 31st August 2010, 11:36 Quote
This has very similar features to the PC-7FN that I am considering - minus the spider window and roof fan mount. It costs under 1/3 of the price of this though!

So the 5870 did just about fit in there without removing the cage right?
xaser04 31st August 2010, 11:44 Quote
Ok Genuinely, why is this £250?!

Whilst the Lian Li brand will add a few quid to the price tag (justifiably), this case is simply not worth its ridiculous price tag.
mrbens 31st August 2010, 12:31 Quote
looks a bit girlie!
Gunsmith 31st August 2010, 12:34 Quote
i dont like spiders.
azrael- 31st August 2010, 12:58 Quote
The reason this costs so much is because of the red paint coat (also internally) and the special side window. The regular version sets you back considerably less.

Also, I don't understand why the PSU mounting is suddenly a cause for criticism. It's the same as used in the PC-P50, which AFAIR wasn't criticised for this.
liratheal 31st August 2010, 13:03 Quote
If I didn't already have the PC-P80R, I so would >.>

Despite disliking spiders, I love the spider case window >.>
[PUNK] crompers 31st August 2010, 13:22 Quote
certainly not something i'd consider buying but i can see the appeal, that price tag is fairly ridiculous too.

one thing i have noticed is bit-tech's apparent aversion to aluminium of late, i seem to remember it being a preferred material not so long ago? i know its a soft metal etc etc but it also has a hell of a lot of plusses to it, weight and heat conductivity among them.
sear 31st August 2010, 13:34 Quote
So is that Silverstone case £60 or £70 more? You mention both in the article.
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Originally Posted by mrbens
looks a bit girlie!
Oh no! Don't worry, champ, we'll get you a nice baby blue case, with a bear on it.
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Originally Posted by liratheal
If I didn't already have the PC-P80R, I so would >.>

Despite disliking spiders, I love the spider case window >.>
So make one yourself? It's not that hard.
Fingers66 31st August 2010, 13:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by azrael-
The reason this costs so much is because of the red paint coat (also internally) and the special side window. The regular version sets you back considerably less.

Also, I don't understand why the PSU mounting is suddenly a cause for criticism. It's the same as used in the PC-P50, which AFAIR wasn't criticised for this.

Whilst the caseking.de price looks great, unfortunately it doesn't transfer to the UK. The black version has been £234 for ages: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-233-LL&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=187.

It is pure overpricing in my opinion, what makes this case so much more than the larger PC-A70FB? The A70FB has the same features but much more space inside and goes for just £160: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-171-LL&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=187.

I am not sure many are going to sell at that price. Shame, it is a good looking case.

Maybe sourcing one from caseking.de is a better bet, does anyone know if there are any kind of charges/duties over and above delivery that would apply if I shipped one to the UK?

If not then 150 euro for the case with around 20 euro for shipping means it is loads cheaper than a UK based e-tailer. 170 euro is around £140 at the moment - this is a more palatable price!
liratheal 31st August 2010, 13:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by sear
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Originally Posted by liratheal
If I didn't already have the PC-P80R, I so would >.>

Despite disliking spiders, I love the spider case window >.>
So make one yourself? It's not that hard.

Or I could continue to enjoy my PC-P80R with its professional finish versus what would have been a less than professional finish if I'd done it myself? :p
TWeaK 31st August 2010, 13:48 Quote
@Fingers66 there can't be any duty applied from caseking.de as you're shipping within the EU. All you've got to worry about is the shipping cost itself. I think Germany includes their VAT in the price just like we do, but their VAT is higher. Caseking.de are generally the best bet for anything LianLi including spare parts I reckon.

OT, I watched an OC3D video review on LianLi that basically summed up the company as providing an excellent 'blank canvas' case for modding. This just doesn't fit the bill: it's already anodised and it's got a side window design already cut out. You're best off getting a cheaper basic model of this or another case and hacking into it

Although, with the basic model being so overpriced over here it looks like this model is just a pile of aluminium failcake with a pink cherry on top.
Bloody_Pete 31st August 2010, 13:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fingers66
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Originally Posted by azrael-
The reason this costs so much is because of the red paint coat (also internally) and the special side window. The regular version sets you back considerably less.

Also, I don't understand why the PSU mounting is suddenly a cause for criticism. It's the same as used in the PC-P50, which AFAIR wasn't criticised for this.

Whilst the caseking.de price looks great, unfortunately it doesn't transfer to the UK. The black version has been £234 for ages: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-233-LL&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=187.

It is pure overpricing in my opinion, what makes this case so much more than the larger PC-A70FB? The A70FB has the same features but much more space inside and goes for just £160: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-171-LL&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=187.

I am not sure many are going to sell at that price. Shame, it is a good looking case.

Maybe sourcing one from caseking.de is a better bet, does anyone know if there are any kind of charges/duties over and above delivery that would apply if I shipped one to the UK?

If not then 150 euro for the case with around 20 euro for shipping means it is loads cheaper than a UK based e-tailer. 170 euro is around £140 at the moment - this is a more palatable price!

You'd have to pay VAT atleast... (there are ways of avoiding this, like getting them to class it as a sample...)
TWeaK 31st August 2010, 13:52 Quote
@Bloody_Pete nah, you pay VAT in the country you buy it from, in this case Germany. Would be nice though, we have lower VAT, at least at the moment!
Fingers66 31st August 2010, 13:54 Quote
The price of 170 euro I mentioned includes VAT (at 19% in Germany) and shipping costs based upon the helpful table of charges caseking.de have on their site. Basically shipping is 19.99 euro for 5 to 9kg (the case weighs just under 6kg according to Lian Li).

So at current exchange rates this case looks like it can be had for £140 from caseking.de. Now that is a better price.

Why oh why are Overclockers charging £234 for it? Don't they want it to sell?

I posted a message to Scan a while back asking what they would sell it for, still waiting for them to update me.
azrael- 31st August 2010, 14:01 Quote
You *may* have to pay 25€ for shipping depending on how they calculate weight. On the other hand that'll pretty much cover cases of any weight as this covers weight up to 31.5 kg.
Combatus 31st August 2010, 14:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by [PUNK
crompers]

one thing i have noticed is bit-tech's apparent aversion to aluminium of late, i seem to remember it being a preferred material not so long ago? i know its a soft metal etc etc but it also has a hell of a lot of plusses to it, weight and heat conductivity among them.

We're not against aluminium, but it can lead to a case being tinny and flimsy - the PC-8FIR was a bit of both. If side panels and the case are prone to denting and flexing, this is far more of an issue than a case being heavy or not quite as good at dissipating heat.
[PUNK] crompers 31st August 2010, 14:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Combatus
We're not against aluminium, but it can lead to a case being tinny and flimsy - the PC-8FIR was a bit of both. If side panels and the case are prone to denting and flexing, this is far more of an issue than a case being heavy or not quite as good at dissipating heat.

personally i find it to be sturdy enough, even moving my rig halfway up the country 3-4 times a year (when im glad of less weight). not sure what the thickness is here?

obviously there are trade offs either way, but give me lovely alu anyday. its just a nicer material to look at, to touch and to lift ;)
rickysio 31st August 2010, 15:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by Combatus
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Originally Posted by [PUNK
crompers]

one thing i have noticed is bit-tech's apparent aversion to aluminium of late, i seem to remember it being a preferred material not so long ago? i know its a soft metal etc etc but it also has a hell of a lot of plusses to it, weight and heat conductivity among them.

We're not against aluminium, but it can lead to a case being tinny and flimsy - the PC-8FIR was a bit of both. If side panels and the case are prone to denting and flexing, this is far more of an issue than a case being heavy or not quite as good at dissipating heat.

It's a trade off between thickness and weight. Look at the NZXT Adamas - 3mm of aluminium made it a ****ing brick, in both strength and weight.
51lver 31st August 2010, 17:39 Quote
I wonder would temps would be different if the 140mm fan was install?
Inside looks like Fractal R2. I would just assume the temp would be slimilar to the R2?
bulldogjeff 31st August 2010, 18:30 Quote
Is this the original spider case thats been around for a few years or a tart up and called a slightly different name? The pinks not to bad in the flesh, but it's an awful lot of money for a case no matter how you look at it.
One thing though, if you suffer from arachnophobia it's not going to be top of the shopping list.
[WP@]WOLVERINE 31st August 2010, 19:28 Quote
this is utterly horrible to look at the color is awful and that spidershaped window looks like a 2 year old designed it. HUGE fail from lian li. What ever happened to the cool sleek designs of Lian lis past. My PC-201 is still an absolutely awesome case in every detail and thats what we should expect from Lian li not this new crap.
eVoPhantom 31st August 2010, 21:01 Quote
Dislike the spider window but think people are being a little to harsh on the colour myself.
koola 31st August 2010, 21:18 Quote
That price is shocking! If only they would let Lancool make some, would be much cheaper with the price of Alu being at an all time high.
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