This has very similar features to the PC-7FN that I am considering - minus the spider window and roof fan mount. It costs under 1/3 of the price of this though!
So the 5870 did just about fit in there without removing the cage right?
The reason this costs so much is because of the red paint coat (also internally) and the special side window. The regular version sets you back considerably less.
Also, I don't understand why the PSU mounting is suddenly a cause for criticism. It's the same as used in the PC-P50, which AFAIR wasn't criticised for this.
certainly not something i'd consider buying but i can see the appeal, that price tag is fairly ridiculous too.
one thing i have noticed is bit-tech's apparent aversion to aluminium of late, i seem to remember it being a preferred material not so long ago? i know its a soft metal etc etc but it also has a hell of a lot of plusses to it, weight and heat conductivity among them.
Originally Posted by azrael- The reason this costs so much is because of the red paint coat (also internally) and the special side window. The regular version sets you back considerably less.
Also, I don't understand why the PSU mounting is suddenly a cause for criticism. It's the same as used in the PC-P50, which AFAIR wasn't criticised for this.
I am not sure many are going to sell at that price. Shame, it is a good looking case.
Maybe sourcing one from caseking.de is a better bet, does anyone know if there are any kind of charges/duties over and above delivery that would apply if I shipped one to the UK?
If not then 150 euro for the case with around 20 euro for shipping means it is loads cheaper than a UK based e-tailer. 170 euro is around £140 at the moment - this is a more palatable price!
Originally Posted by liratheal If I didn't already have the PC-P80R, I so would >.>
Despite disliking spiders, I love the spider case window >.>
So make one yourself? It's not that hard.
Or I could continue to enjoy my PC-P80R with its professional finish versus what would have been a less than professional finish if I'd done it myself? :p
@Fingers66 there can't be any duty applied from caseking.de as you're shipping within the EU. All you've got to worry about is the shipping cost itself. I think Germany includes their VAT in the price just like we do, but their VAT is higher. Caseking.de are generally the best bet for anything LianLi including spare parts I reckon.
OT, I watched an OC3D video review on LianLi that basically summed up the company as providing an excellent 'blank canvas' case for modding. This just doesn't fit the bill: it's already anodised and it's got a side window design already cut out. You're best off getting a cheaper basic model of this or another case and hacking into it
Although, with the basic model being so overpriced over here it looks like this model is just a pile of aluminium failcake with a pink cherry on top.
Originally Posted by azrael- The reason this costs so much is because of the red paint coat (also internally) and the special side window. The regular version sets you back considerably less.
Also, I don't understand why the PSU mounting is suddenly a cause for criticism. It's the same as used in the PC-P50, which AFAIR wasn't criticised for this.
I am not sure many are going to sell at that price. Shame, it is a good looking case.
Maybe sourcing one from caseking.de is a better bet, does anyone know if there are any kind of charges/duties over and above delivery that would apply if I shipped one to the UK?
If not then 150 euro for the case with around 20 euro for shipping means it is loads cheaper than a UK based e-tailer. 170 euro is around £140 at the moment - this is a more palatable price!
You'd have to pay VAT atleast... (there are ways of avoiding this, like getting them to class it as a sample...)
The price of 170 euro I mentioned includes VAT (at 19% in Germany) and shipping costs based upon the helpful table of charges caseking.de have on their site. Basically shipping is 19.99 euro for 5 to 9kg (the case weighs just under 6kg according to Lian Li).
So at current exchange rates this case looks like it can be had for £140 from caseking.de. Now that is a better price.
Why oh why are Overclockers charging £234 for it? Don't they want it to sell?
I posted a message to Scan a while back asking what they would sell it for, still waiting for them to update me.
You *may* have to pay 25€ for shipping depending on how they calculate weight. On the other hand that'll pretty much cover cases of any weight as this covers weight up to 31.5 kg.
one thing i have noticed is bit-tech's apparent aversion to aluminium of late, i seem to remember it being a preferred material not so long ago? i know its a soft metal etc etc but it also has a hell of a lot of plusses to it, weight and heat conductivity among them.
We're not against aluminium, but it can lead to a case being tinny and flimsy - the PC-8FIR was a bit of both. If side panels and the case are prone to denting and flexing, this is far more of an issue than a case being heavy or not quite as good at dissipating heat.
Originally Posted by Combatus We're not against aluminium, but it can lead to a case being tinny and flimsy - the PC-8FIR was a bit of both. If side panels and the case are prone to denting and flexing, this is far more of an issue than a case being heavy or not quite as good at dissipating heat.
personally i find it to be sturdy enough, even moving my rig halfway up the country 3-4 times a year (when im glad of less weight). not sure what the thickness is here?
obviously there are trade offs either way, but give me lovely alu anyday. its just a nicer material to look at, to touch and to lift ;)
one thing i have noticed is bit-tech's apparent aversion to aluminium of late, i seem to remember it being a preferred material not so long ago? i know its a soft metal etc etc but it also has a hell of a lot of plusses to it, weight and heat conductivity among them.
We're not against aluminium, but it can lead to a case being tinny and flimsy - the PC-8FIR was a bit of both. If side panels and the case are prone to denting and flexing, this is far more of an issue than a case being heavy or not quite as good at dissipating heat.
It's a trade off between thickness and weight. Look at the NZXT Adamas - 3mm of aluminium made it a ****ing brick, in both strength and weight.
I wonder would temps would be different if the 140mm fan was install?
Inside looks like Fractal R2. I would just assume the temp would be slimilar to the R2?
Is this the original spider case thats been around for a few years or a tart up and called a slightly different name? The pinks not to bad in the flesh, but it's an awful lot of money for a case no matter how you look at it.
One thing though, if you suffer from arachnophobia it's not going to be top of the shopping list.
this is utterly horrible to look at the color is awful and that spidershaped window looks like a 2 year old designed it. HUGE fail from lian li. What ever happened to the cool sleek designs of Lian lis past. My PC-201 is still an absolutely awesome case in every detail and thats what we should expect from Lian li not this new crap.
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ReplySo the 5870 did just about fit in there without removing the cage right?
Whilst the Lian Li brand will add a few quid to the price tag (justifiably), this case is simply not worth its ridiculous price tag.
Also, I don't understand why the PSU mounting is suddenly a cause for criticism. It's the same as used in the PC-P50, which AFAIR wasn't criticised for this.
Despite disliking spiders, I love the spider case window >.>
one thing i have noticed is bit-tech's apparent aversion to aluminium of late, i seem to remember it being a preferred material not so long ago? i know its a soft metal etc etc but it also has a hell of a lot of plusses to it, weight and heat conductivity among them.
Whilst the caseking.de price looks great, unfortunately it doesn't transfer to the UK. The black version has been £234 for ages: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-233-LL&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=187.
It is pure overpricing in my opinion, what makes this case so much more than the larger PC-A70FB? The A70FB has the same features but much more space inside and goes for just £160: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-171-LL&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=187.
I am not sure many are going to sell at that price. Shame, it is a good looking case.
Maybe sourcing one from caseking.de is a better bet, does anyone know if there are any kind of charges/duties over and above delivery that would apply if I shipped one to the UK?
If not then 150 euro for the case with around 20 euro for shipping means it is loads cheaper than a UK based e-tailer. 170 euro is around £140 at the moment - this is a more palatable price!
Or I could continue to enjoy my PC-P80R with its professional finish versus what would have been a less than professional finish if I'd done it myself? :p
OT, I watched an OC3D video review on LianLi that basically summed up the company as providing an excellent 'blank canvas' case for modding. This just doesn't fit the bill: it's already anodised and it's got a side window design already cut out. You're best off getting a cheaper basic model of this or another case and hacking into it
Although, with the basic model being so overpriced over here it looks like this model is just a pile of aluminium failcake with a pink cherry on top.
You'd have to pay VAT atleast... (there are ways of avoiding this, like getting them to class it as a sample...)
So at current exchange rates this case looks like it can be had for £140 from caseking.de. Now that is a better price.
Why oh why are Overclockers charging £234 for it? Don't they want it to sell?
I posted a message to Scan a while back asking what they would sell it for, still waiting for them to update me.
We're not against aluminium, but it can lead to a case being tinny and flimsy - the PC-8FIR was a bit of both. If side panels and the case are prone to denting and flexing, this is far more of an issue than a case being heavy or not quite as good at dissipating heat.
personally i find it to be sturdy enough, even moving my rig halfway up the country 3-4 times a year (when im glad of less weight). not sure what the thickness is here?
obviously there are trade offs either way, but give me lovely alu anyday. its just a nicer material to look at, to touch and to lift ;)
It's a trade off between thickness and weight. Look at the NZXT Adamas - 3mm of aluminium made it a ****ing brick, in both strength and weight.
Inside looks like Fractal R2. I would just assume the temp would be slimilar to the R2?
One thing though, if you suffer from arachnophobia it's not going to be top of the shopping list.
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