Originally Posted by coolmiester I'm sure a case of this size could have been made to accommodate 10 PCI slots to accept the EVGA SR-2 board.
I'm also not getting the two missing quick release buttons even though the caddy has been stamped out to take them - just looks a bit unfinished to me and would have looked much better with all six there.
The bottom two are hot swap bays. I believe they have their own mechanism for securing drives in caddies which do not require the tool less mechanism on the other drives. See the image below for a view of the hot swap caddies from the outside.
Sloth, the hot swaps require 4 screws into the bottom of the HDD. Some are complaining, but honestly I don't mind. It's still faster than opening the case and fiddling with wires.
Instantly not for me! After having a P180 and lugging it around to LANs I am -never- having a heavy case again.
Pfft! Try a 22kg TT Kandalf to put you off steel cases for the rest of your life...
Anyways, I continue to struggle to see the point in these kind of cases (huge, ugly with loads of obscenely large fans). Anyone who has the kind of hardware that requires so much space and air cooling should have the money for a watercooling setup surely?
Originally Posted by D-Cyph3r Anyways, I continue to struggle to see the point in these kind of cases (huge, ugly with loads of obscenely large fans). Anyone who has the kind of hardware that requires so much space and air cooling should have the money for a watercooling setup surely?
The case is designed for water cooling, it has triple rad mounts in the top and multiple predrilled areas through the case for res's or rad's. The other reason is that if you got a XLATX MoBo NOT for quad SLI or Crossfire, but so you can space your dual GPUs out it's a bit more air friendly.
It's kinda like asking why people build racecars out of whimpy little engines... at the end of the game you pay about the same as those starting out with a beefy motor, it's modifying on a budget in installments or the thrill of being the underdog. Air is budget and an underdog, yet some people get impressive numbers out of non-water/phase rigs.
I didn't buy the HAF X for the air cooling, I bought it to last me a few years in whichever direction I decide to go. It's got front panel USB 3.0 support as well as plenty of space for whatever the (near)future holds.
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they some times forget to put the link in the last page that links to the forum Thread where this msg is been posted to (website and the forums are interlinked)
Why do the designers/fabricators continuously produce these boring rectangular cases? This just show the lack of creativity with the case manufactures.
How about try thinking out side the box, rather than continue shoving this garbage down our throats!
Personally I hate side panel intake fan. What is it with all these manufacture obsession with side panel intake fan? Just give me a large side panel transparent windows after all is a gaming case.
Originally Posted by 2bdetermine Personally I hate side panel intake fan. What is it with all these manufacture obsession with side panel intake fan? Just give me a large side panel transparent windows after all is a gaming case.
After much much back and forth between the HaF X and the DF-85 I chose the HaF X.
Durable steel painted inside and out this case can take a mortar round or be a hot girl's chair
Deeper, taller, and wider than the DF-85 means more pci slots, better cable management, can hold any GPU
Wheels are what won me over as the case is heavy and I go from bedroom to living room to LAN parties
Gpu bracket is nice as it will hold my SLI or CF config
Haf X will support ATX, Ultra ATX, XL-ATX motherboards
Comes with side panel fan for GPU cooling.
No front bars to obscure my digital touch screen Fan Controller.
The Antec DF-85 is a brilliant case but the HaF X just won me over as it offered a "Bit more Tech".
The Wheels on the HAF and the rest of the Coolermaster were always something I liked. Although not an entire selling point, it was always cool to have em.
Originally Posted by Elton The Wheels on the HAF and the rest of the Coolermaster were always something I liked. Although not an entire selling point, it was always cool to have em.
Actually I completely agree! It' makes building (spin it around etc) and moving it about SO much easier.
Originally Posted by 2bdetermine Personally I hate side panel intake fan. What is it with all these manufacture obsession with side panel intake fan? Just give me a large side panel transparent windows after all is a gaming case.
Cooling for hot graphics cards.
Windows were really ~2003.
Many side panel fans we've seen are useless but the HAF X includes one that saw it climb to the top of the GPU temperature table (ie lowest GPU temp). If it works and doesn't restrict the choice of CPU coolers (see NZXT Hades) then I think they're a good idea, especially if you're using multiple graphics cards.
How does the HAF X compare to the ATCS 840, I was hoping to see this comparison in the CPU/GPU temperature charts but its sadly missing - they seem to be roughly the same price and size although I haven't compared the features directly... Noise is the biggest bugbear for me and I work/play in a warm room so I get annoyed constantly by fast-spinning fans... I want to buy the definitive case in the next month along with a complete new system based on an i7 CPU & ATI 5870 - ie pretty much the config of the "Premium Player" from July's Hardware buyers guide - just debating the case to use...
Thanks!
Haf X vs DF 85: definately do not get the DF 85. It's not roomy enough to do water cooling, and the build quality is not what I've come to expect of Antec.
Originally Posted by Durwin99 Noise is the biggest bugbear for me and I work/play in a warm room so I get annoyed constantly by fast-spinning fans...!
I couldn't tell you how it compares to anything other than my old CM Stacker case. It's way quieter. If I turn my CPU fan all the way down then the case fans are barely a whisper. In fact, before this case I didn't even realise how loud my wifes laptop fans are (it's about 3' away on the desk next to mine).
Originally Posted by Ricky_005 Why do the designers/fabricators continuously produce these boring rectangular cases? This just show the lack of creativity with the case manufactures.
How about try thinking out side the box, rather than continue shoving this garbage down our throats!
99.9 percent of PCs on the high street are based around a tired run-of-the-mill design of a rectangular box with a slightly rounded mismatched face plate bolted onto its front.
Lian Li took this simple design and did it properly, by making an effort to have the front face plate match the minimal and straight lines of the main PC box.
The problem now is that we seem to have a "case" of extremes, where you either have: a nice but boring basic minimal tin box PC that doesn't offend anyone; or we have the case that attempts to be radical and different in looks by breaking the world record for the most throw ups of public vomit that it can conduce.
There are some exceptions. And to be honest, the HAF X isn't tooooooo bad. At least it's far better than the Antec Dark Fleet. They could have made the bottom section of the HAF X front intake grill match the top section. Blend it in like an Antec 1200's awesome mesh grill, running in a straight line from top to bottom.
Why can't these companies hire some decent designers to produce some advanced, dynamic, futuristic, sleek looking gaming PC cases that look like what most people can look at and want.
What about good designs like the jet-engine-inspired Dell XPS 700 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/09/04/Dell_XPS_700_review/2 with its sleek uninterrupted dynamic sheets of aluminium side panels stretching from front of the case to the back. Instead of looking like it is a simple bland square tin box with a front face plate bolted on.
Or what about having a case with a side that seems like it is a single pane of aluminium sheet suspended in the air. A little bit like the new Alienware Area 51.
Or what about a side window similar to the almost seamless one on the Corsair 800D. Or even better, take the glass from inside to the outside and let it cover the whole of the outside of the side panel. Tint the glass light black, and cut out a window section in the metal sheet behind it.
How many people look at a Ferrari on the street and throw up vomit?
For me, gaming PC cases should be like something designed by Ferrari, Lamborghini or Aston Martin.
A gaming PC should look sporty, with clean, sleek, dynamic lines and curves.
from what i have read on all the sites and all the reviews ive see it looks like a good case with lots of potentcal or modding anf lots of air cooling if all one ahs to do is add a fan controller then thats a small price to pay. i have a friend than has a HAF 932 and he loves it. the only thing i dont like is all the shouds and the mobo tray is not removable but with all that space one can forgive Cooller Master for that but that is just my opion.
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ReplyPfft! Try a 22kg TT Kandalf to put you off steel cases for the rest of your life...
Anyways, I continue to struggle to see the point in these kind of cases (huge, ugly with loads of obscenely large fans). Anyone who has the kind of hardware that requires so much space and air cooling should have the money for a watercooling setup surely?
The case is designed for water cooling, it has triple rad mounts in the top and multiple predrilled areas through the case for res's or rad's. The other reason is that if you got a XLATX MoBo NOT for quad SLI or Crossfire, but so you can space your dual GPUs out it's a bit more air friendly.
It's kinda like asking why people build racecars out of whimpy little engines... at the end of the game you pay about the same as those starting out with a beefy motor, it's modifying on a budget in installments or the thrill of being the underdog. Air is budget and an underdog, yet some people get impressive numbers out of non-water/phase rigs.
I didn't buy the HAF X for the air cooling, I bought it to last me a few years in whichever direction I decide to go. It's got front panel USB 3.0 support as well as plenty of space for whatever the (near)future holds.
they some times forget to put the link in the last page that links to the forum Thread where this msg is been posted to (website and the forums are interlinked)
How about try thinking out side the box, rather than continue shoving this garbage down our throats!
Cooling for hot graphics cards.
Windows were really ~2003.
Durable steel painted inside and out this case can take a mortar round or be a hot girl's chair
Deeper, taller, and wider than the DF-85 means more pci slots, better cable management, can hold any GPU
Wheels are what won me over as the case is heavy and I go from bedroom to living room to LAN parties
Gpu bracket is nice as it will hold my SLI or CF config
Haf X will support ATX, Ultra ATX, XL-ATX motherboards
Comes with side panel fan for GPU cooling.
No front bars to obscure my digital touch screen Fan Controller.
The Antec DF-85 is a brilliant case but the HaF X just won me over as it offered a "Bit more Tech".
Actually I completely agree! It' makes building (spin it around etc) and moving it about SO much easier.
Many side panel fans we've seen are useless but the HAF X includes one that saw it climb to the top of the GPU temperature table (ie lowest GPU temp). If it works and doesn't restrict the choice of CPU coolers (see NZXT Hades) then I think they're a good idea, especially if you're using multiple graphics cards.
Thanks!
I couldn't tell you how it compares to anything other than my old CM Stacker case. It's way quieter. If I turn my CPU fan all the way down then the case fans are barely a whisper. In fact, before this case I didn't even realise how loud my wifes laptop fans are (it's about 3' away on the desk next to mine).
99.9 percent of PCs on the high street are based around a tired run-of-the-mill design of a rectangular box with a slightly rounded mismatched face plate bolted onto its front.
Lian Li took this simple design and did it properly, by making an effort to have the front face plate match the minimal and straight lines of the main PC box.
The problem now is that we seem to have a "case" of extremes, where you either have: a nice but boring basic minimal tin box PC that doesn't offend anyone; or we have the case that attempts to be radical and different in looks by breaking the world record for the most throw ups of public vomit that it can conduce.
There are some exceptions. And to be honest, the HAF X isn't tooooooo bad. At least it's far better than the Antec Dark Fleet. They could have made the bottom section of the HAF X front intake grill match the top section. Blend it in like an Antec 1200's awesome mesh grill, running in a straight line from top to bottom.
Why can't these companies hire some decent designers to produce some advanced, dynamic, futuristic, sleek looking gaming PC cases that look like what most people can look at and want.
What about good designs like the jet-engine-inspired Dell XPS 700 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/09/04/Dell_XPS_700_review/2 with its sleek uninterrupted dynamic sheets of aluminium side panels stretching from front of the case to the back. Instead of looking like it is a simple bland square tin box with a front face plate bolted on.
Or what about the aluminium matte black HP Blackbird 002 http://www.engadget.com/photos/hps-blackbird-002-gaming-rig-up-close/383687/
Or what about having a case with a side that seems like it is a single pane of aluminium sheet suspended in the air. A little bit like the new Alienware Area 51.
Or what about a side window similar to the almost seamless one on the Corsair 800D. Or even better, take the glass from inside to the outside and let it cover the whole of the outside of the side panel. Tint the glass light black, and cut out a window section in the metal sheet behind it.
How many people look at a Ferrari on the street and throw up vomit?
For me, gaming PC cases should be like something designed by Ferrari, Lamborghini or Aston Martin.
A gaming PC should look sporty, with clean, sleek, dynamic lines and curves.
Yeah, I think that's the word I was looking for :)
All i can say is that what an pleasant guy to talk. We talked about the design and what his next project will be.
He said next he's focusing on making a silent case for midrange so we might be looking a good competition for antec sonata cases.
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