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SilverStone Sugo SG07 mini-ITX Case Review

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JCBeastie 28th June 2010, 09:40 Quote
Was this an evaluation sample from Silverstone or the fully-fledged retail model?

I've been waiting for this case to hit stores for what feels like ages and it's a bit disapointing (although it doesn't put me off) that they've made some simple oversights.

Maybe we should hold out for the v2?

Still the best case for a Mini-ITX gaming system but I can't help but wonder how it could've been a tiny bit better...
Bindibadgi 28th June 2010, 09:49 Quote
This is full retail. Retail box + packaging delivered straight from Silverstone HQ (in torrential rain actually).

What do you find disappointing?
JCBeastie 28th June 2010, 09:55 Quote
Just minor issues you pointed out, the power connector fouling the expansion card retention, and the cable lengths.

They're so minor you wonder why they went fixed before launch.

Don't get me wrong I'm excited about this case but I just thought Silverstone would nail it.
spacey_0 28th June 2010, 10:00 Quote
stainless or full alu would of been much nicer. if it were carbon fiber it would be my dream itx case for sure. its still a beautifully function case
Bindibadgi 28th June 2010, 10:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by spacey_0
stainless or full alu would of been much nicer. if it were carbon fiber it would be my dream itx case for sure. its still a beautifully function case

Alu would cost 1.5x as much and not be as strong. The construction in steel is as solid as a brick-s***house. Aluminium is a soft metal - great to look at but it's a soft metal and shouldn't really be used for thin construction joints. Afaik Stainless is extremely difficult to work with anything other than sheets and it's more expensive again.

JCBeastie - I see, and agree. :)
Krikkit 28th June 2010, 10:31 Quote
Also, carbon fibre? You'd be talking £800+ for that case in an all-CF makeup. Even then it's not very strong in certain directions, not to mention the vicious shards it'd make if you broke it.
Jack_Pepsi 28th June 2010, 10:48 Quote
It's nice but I still prefer the SG05. The Iron Man (actually more War-machine) fascia is stylin' but I still find myself coming back to the SG05, maybe because the front seems more mod friendly and that's appealing to me.
Unknownsock 28th June 2010, 11:46 Quote
Now if it wasn't for the price i may have used this with my upcoming htpc.

My atcs 840 was only £20 more :o
Bindibadgi 28th June 2010, 11:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Unknownsock
Now if it wasn't for the price i may have used this with my upcoming htpc.

My atcs 840 was only £20 more :o

It didn't come with a custom 600W PSU though, did it? ;)
DarkFear 28th June 2010, 12:06 Quote
Not too sure from the pics, but the SG05 looks easier to watercool with the 120mm fan in the front...

Would it be relatively easy to install a 120.1 rad in the top of the SG07?
Bindibadgi 28th June 2010, 12:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkFear
Not too sure from the pics, but the SG05 looks easier to watercool with the 120mm fan in the front...

Would it be relatively easy to install a 120.1 rad in the top of the SG07?

Uh, no. It's a 180mm fan. Unless you remove the fan and mod in a bracket to 120mm and use a thin rad. But then your barbs from the block and rad face each other so it's 90 degree ones.

It's not made for watercooling really, although removing the PSU and swapping it for a 350W SFX would give you more space for a pump in the front - then just put an SSD in the roof where the optical drive would be.
DarkFear 28th June 2010, 12:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Uh, no. It's a 180mm fan. Unless you remove the fan and mod in a bracket to 120mm and use a thin rad. But then your barbs from the block and rad face each other so it's 90 degree ones.

It's not made for watercooling really, although removing the PSU and swapping it for a 350W SFX would give you more space for a pump in the front - then just put an SSD in the roof where the optical drive would be.

Heh, I'd bet 80%+ of people on BT has hardware that's doing things that it's not supposed to :D

But thanks, that's what I thought yeah...
Bindibadgi 28th June 2010, 12:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkFear
Heh, I'd bet 80%+ of people on BT has hardware that's doing things that it's not supposed to :D

I meant in as much that the SG05 is better suited ;)
Denis_iii 28th June 2010, 12:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by JCBeastie
Was this an evaluation sample from Silverstone or the fully-fledged retail model?

I've been waiting for this case to hit stores for what feels like ages and it's a bit disapointing (although it doesn't put me off) that they've made some simple oversights.

Maybe we should hold out for the v2?

Still the best case for a Mini-ITX gaming system but I can't help but wonder how it could've been a tiny bit better...

+1 except it has put be off, sounds like psu cables are to long and it isn't modular..........if a 3rd party made avilable a modular psu and i could by the case with no psu i'd get 1
Denis_iii 28th June 2010, 12:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkFear
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Uh, no. It's a 180mm fan. Unless you remove the fan and mod in a bracket to 120mm and use a thin rad. But then your barbs from the block and rad face each other so it's 90 degree ones.

It's not made for watercooling really, although removing the PSU and swapping it for a 350W SFX would give you more space for a pump in the front - then just put an SSD in the roof where the optical drive would be.

Heh, I'd bet 80%+ of people on BT has hardware that's doing things that it's not supposed to :D

But thanks, that's what I thought yeah...

lol it'd be sweet hacking in a coolit eco somehow
Bindibadgi 28th June 2010, 13:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkFear
Not too sure from the pics, but the SG05 looks easier to watercool with the 120mm fan in the front...

Would it be relatively easy to install a 120.1 rad in the top of the SG07?

I was wrong! Silverstone just emailed to point out that the 180mm bracket has holes for a 120mm fan! So you CAN install a 120+rad quite easily! :)

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2010/06/silverstone-sugo-sg07-mini-itx-case-review/sg07-fan-1.jpg - you can see the four holes on there.

You could, maybe, possibly fit in an Eco or H50 - it depends how flexible the tubing is without snapping.
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Originally Posted by Denis_iii
+1 except it has put be off, sounds like psu cables are to long and it isn't modular..........if a 3rd party made avilable a modular psu and i could by the case with no psu i'd get 1

You can't do that still. There's no space for the modular plugs to go. You'd have to use some very low profile mod plugs with cables at 90 degrees to actually make it work with the graphics card.
Konias 28th June 2010, 13:57 Quote
SG07
The version with windows looks nicer to me. I want full aluminium front plate. Like was on Sugos before.
I have SG01 complete made from 1mm aluminium. And this will be my next sff case I thing. I hope there will be some revision. Replace power conector atc.

My future small AMD dragon sys:
AMD Phenom II X4 905E
New ASUS boartd M4A88T-I Deluxe
4Gb DDR3 ( Notebook size :( )
SSD System Drive + 1 - 2Tb Data drive
ASUS Radeon 4850 1Gb ( upgrade to Radeon 6xxx )
SPU Cooler ??? Dont now yet

The next very well looking case will be Lian-Li V354 microATX Case



New ASUS
DarkFear 28th June 2010, 15:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
I was wrong! Silverstone just emailed to point out that the 180mm bracket has holes for a 120mm fan! So you CAN install a 120+rad quite easily! :)

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2010/06/silverstone-sugo-sg07-mini-itx-case-review/sg07-fan-1.jpg - you can see the four holes on there.

You could, maybe, possibly fit in an Eco or H50 - it depends how flexible the tubing is without snapping.

Cool, thanks for the update. ;)

Also, I suspected that you were wrong yes. I'm never wrong you know. With that in mind, I predict that the world won't end until sometime after 21 December 2012 :p
Gizmo1990 28th June 2010, 15:55 Quote
I hate the front therefore it gets a big thumbs down for me! Why change the great looks of the sg05..??
JCBeastie 28th June 2010, 18:37 Quote
Thinking of making the most use of that big ol' Air Penetrator (giggle), I'm thinking a Noctua NH-C12P on the CPU and Thermalright Spitfire and VRM-R5 on a Radeon 5870. Should place all the heatsinks directly under it. I'll have to get some detailed measurements to see if it will all fit, I reckon so from my guesstimations.
spacey_0 29th June 2010, 08:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
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Originally Posted by spacey_0
stainless or full alu would of been much nicer. if it were carbon fiber it would be my dream itx case for sure. its still a beautifully function case

Alu would cost 1.5x as much and not be as strong. The construction in steel is as solid as a brick-s***house. Aluminium is a soft metal - great to look at but it's a soft metal and shouldn't really be used for thin construction joints. Afaik Stainless is extremely difficult to work with anything other than sheets and it's more expensive again.

JCBeastie - I see, and agree. :)

this case is overpriced anyway and there is so little material surely alu would not of increased the cost that much? as for for strengh i had a cm praetorian (alu) that was used as a makeshift seat most weekends for a good few years and that thing never bowed or anything.. the new owner also sits his crt on it.. the wavemaster i owned had a steel side panel which got dented chipped and rusted. i hate rust.. sg07still a sick case though :D
Denis_iii 29th June 2010, 09:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by spacey_0
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
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Originally Posted by spacey_0
stainless or full alu would of been much nicer. if it were carbon fiber it would be my dream itx case for sure. its still a beautifully function case

Alu would cost 1.5x as much and not be as strong. The construction in steel is as solid as a brick-s***house. Aluminium is a soft metal - great to look at but it's a soft metal and shouldn't really be used for thin construction joints. Afaik Stainless is extremely difficult to work with anything other than sheets and it's more expensive again.

JCBeastie - I see, and agree. :)

this case is overpriced anyway and there is so little material surely alu would not of increased the cost that much? as for for strengh i had a cm praetorian (alu) that was used as a makeshift seat most weekends for a good few years and that thing never bowed or anything.. the new owner also sits his crt on it.. the wavemaster i owned had a steel side panel which got dented chipped and rusted. i hate rust.. sg07still a sick case though :D

i think the price is acceptable as it is a new product, comes with a quality fan and a solid psu
Bindibadgi 29th June 2010, 09:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by spacey_0
this case is overpriced anyway and there is so little material surely alu would not of increased the cost that much? as for for strengh i had a cm praetorian (alu) that was used as a makeshift seat most weekends for a good few years and that thing never bowed or anything.. the new owner also sits his crt on it.. the wavemaster i owned had a steel side panel which got dented chipped and rusted. i hate rust.. sg07still a sick case though :D

It's not that overpriced if you consider its a case, 600W PSU, specialised 180mm fan etc.

Thin 1mm alu sheet is relatively cheap but thicker stuff costs significantly more. Your praetorian is what, 5 years old? Alu prices have increased a lot since then - take a look at the cost of Lian Li cases over the last 10 years!

JCBeastie- http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1528717 - check that and be aware of any heatpipes! ;)

Gizmo1990 - The SG05 was ugly! That huge fan was grotesque! :P haha
phinix 29th June 2010, 09:49 Quote
...I like it!
Huge modding potential:)
zr_ox 29th June 2010, 19:55 Quote
I really like this and can see past the short comings.

Is there any chance that you guys will be able to review the Lian Li Mini-Q PC-O08? It's the closest competition for this little beastie.
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