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Mankz 16th June 2010, 12:39 Quote
Im impressed..

They have some damn nice products..
urobulos 16th June 2010, 12:50 Quote
The R2 was going to be my next case, but now I'm wondering whether to delay it a month or two.
Matticus 16th June 2010, 12:59 Quote
The one thing I was going to say about in the R3 was that it looks like there is a lack of space between the top of the motherboard and the roof for a radiator. And then Boom! The define XL on the next page, that thing is going to see more radiator grills than I have had hot dinners.
wuyanxu 16th June 2010, 13:59 Quote
an excellent company, not sacrificing the looks for anything, unlike Antec.

keep up the good work. the XL looks fantastic.
billysielu 16th June 2010, 14:36 Quote
XL looks like a P183. This is a good thing. I hope they can build on their experience and go one step better next time - then they'll get my business.
Odin Eidolon 16th June 2010, 14:38 Quote
Loving the array R2, 6 HDDs!

the R3 seems based on the coolermaster 690 (bottom and backside) , just like many other cases.
faugusztin 16th June 2010, 14:42 Quote
R2 is a great case - if you have one of the first batches. If not, well, then good luck, as QA got lost somewhere and most of the cases they ship now have bad quality.
urobulos 16th June 2010, 15:13 Quote
And you are basing the above statement on what exactly?
xaser04 16th June 2010, 16:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by faugusztin
R2 is a great case - if you have one of the first batches. If not, well, then good luck, as QA got lost somewhere and most of the cases they ship now have bad quality.

I have no idea what batch my R2 was but its built quality (and overall quality) is excellent.

Its easily the best case I have ever owned. Great looking, quite and with plenty of expandability. The only downside is the inability to use a HD5970 without serious HD bay modification.
pimonserry 16th June 2010, 16:54 Quote
XL looks great if you can remove the upper 4 HD trays.
Rsaeire 16th June 2010, 17:02 Quote
Cases that offer such great HDD options are always a plus in my book. Fractal Design make some amazing looking cases and cable tidying options built-in, while readily available from other case manufacturers, are a welcome addition. I'm definitely considering buying the Define XL based on what I've seen so far; hopefully Bit-tech do a review when it's released.
Volund 16th June 2010, 17:18 Quote
Hmm, I wonder how well the define XL would work with two 240 or 280 rads in the bottom compartment, similar to the TJ07.

can't wait to see these on the market in the US.
Blarte 16th June 2010, 17:37 Quote
Fractal Design Define R3 reminds me very much of the inside of a Coolermaster Dominator case
Odin Eidolon 16th June 2010, 18:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Odin Eidolon
Loving the array R2, 6 HDDs!

the R3 seems based on the coolermaster 690 (bottom and backside) , just like many other cases.
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Originally Posted by Blarte
Fractal Design Define R3 reminds me very much of the inside of a Coolermaster Dominator case
Teh C 16th June 2010, 18:07 Quote
The XL looks amazing. Besides the front intakes, what does it have for exhausts besides that 140mm (I assume) fan at the back.
bulldogjeff 16th June 2010, 18:27 Quote
I like the look of the XL, you could get loads of gear in there and still have space to spare
B1GBUD 16th June 2010, 19:05 Quote
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The first time we looked at a Fractal Design case was when we reviewed the R2 at the start of the year, and it excited plenty of interest - 177 comments might just be a record for a case

That's because there were only 117 ;)
Barracuda_00 16th June 2010, 19:29 Quote
Actually the array always had 6 hdds + slot for 1 2.5" so thats nothing new, the new version of the array from what i read on a swedish forum where they frequent was that it was gonna get an extra expansionslot aka mini-dtx formfactor tho its possible that this was scrapped.
Oggyb 16th June 2010, 19:34 Quote
I've heard recommendations towards the Fractal Design cases left right and centre for a couple of years now: It'd be nice to get a real-life comparison between those and other competing cases such as the Sileo series and PaQT 4u.
steve30x 16th June 2010, 20:06 Quote
Those cases look similar to the Antec P190 that I had and I didnt like the P190 because it was hard to work with. The motherboard didnt have much space around it making installation difficult. I hope those cases dont have the same problem. Thank god I changed my case for a Corsair Obsidian 800D which is a thousand times better in my opinion.
kingred 16th June 2010, 20:08 Quote
Having bought an R2, I cannot contemplate going back to shitty cases again. Huge upgrade for me seeing as my last case was a shitty thermaltake dragon, so obviously my opinion is quite squewed, However, I do adore the temperatures i get and the ability to turn the fans up and down with the modded fan controller.

on a side note, anyone know what value the pot is inside the fan controller bundled with the R2 because i burned mine out. Thinking it was retarded to have a fan controller on the back of the machine, i just popped it in the front and the contacts shorted, burning a couple of tracks out and the pot, so i bridged the contacts with wire, and everythings kosher. Except i burned the pot out. Pro tip: it may be running at 12v but lol it could be expensive if you **** it up.
Lockon Stratos 16th June 2010, 20:30 Quote
the R2 looks like a cross between a Antec P182 & Coolermaster Centurion 590 *yawn* need moar originality pls
leslie 16th June 2010, 22:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lockon Stratos
the R2 looks like a cross between a Antec P182 & Coolermaster Centurion 590 *yawn* need moar originality pls

How much originality do you expect. It's a box holding the same parts as every other box. Besides, a ton of R&D increases cost, something Fractal isn't about.


I think these guys have the right idea, start with a good solid design, add some tweaks, make it looks nice, and stick your label on it. Is it market changing? No, but it makes for a darn nice case for a good price that requires little effort to be what you want.

How many cases are totally original or market changing? They can't all be.
faugusztin 16th June 2010, 23:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by urobulos
And you are basing the above statement on what exactly?

Statement of one of the distributors (who is my friend), lots of the cases they get now have bitumens not glued correctly, sometimes the bitumen on moduvents is not fitted correctly (hell, even my case from the one of the 1st batches have one moduvent where there are no holes for fan screws in bitumen, so the bitumen is having a U shape on it). Also there is a problem with the feets (see SPCR review for example), some have problems with 5.25" bays, rivets not 100% secure and we can continue.

Don't think i have anything against Fractal Design - the case is awesome, i own it - but their QA should be better, a lot better.
Rocket_Knight64 16th June 2010, 23:46 Quote
I like what I'm seeing. BUT I really wish they would make a better dust filter solution before they start production. Screwing them in is very awkward. Quick fit along the lines of the Antec darkfleet would be great.
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