And this also a very important thing isn't it? You buy a (very) expensive case, but you are not going to put in a cheapass mobo with dito processor and gpu into it. No you fit in a few watercooling loops, a very expensive overclockers 'extreme clock fastlane' mobo, expensive memory, the best processor you can get and throw in a few top of the line graphics cards (all watercooled) and a 10TB harddisks, some nice graphics display in the front or side, a window here and there and finaly a 1200W PSU to power the whole rig.
And you just wanted to have the overprices expensive case...
I'm a long term Lian Li fan, but that's just too expensive for a case, no matter what you put inside it. Lian Li themselves make some equally nice, large cases for much less than that... nicer looking too.
Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan And this also a very important thing isn't it? You buy a (very) expensive case, but you are not going to put in a cheapass mobo with dito processor and gpu into it. No you fit in a few watercooling loops, a very expensive overclockers 'extreme clock fastlane' mobo, expensive memory, the best processor you can get and throw in a few top of the line graphics cards (all watercooled) and a 10TB harddisks, some nice graphics display in the front or side, a window here and there and finaly a 1200W PSU to power the whole rig.
And you just wanted to have the overprices expensive case...
I got the case as a review sample, and it was spares that I used to build the rig. I probably wouldn't have paid £300 to buy one because I would have had to justify it to my missus:D
Well, maybe are they like German car producers, and even American ones, who were convinced, that you can sell "budget" if you wave with premium. You probably remember Maybach, Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Jaguar, Land Rover,... stories??
Originally Posted by antaresIII Well, maybe are they like German car producers, and even American ones, who were convinced, that you can sell "budget" if you wave with premium. You probably remember Maybach, Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Jaguar, Land Rover,... stories??
Aye, well maybe I wouldn't have picked up on the quote from the article if I wasn't tight with my money. :D
im curious at to what exactly makes that case so expensive. There are larger lian-li cases that cost ~£150. i personally own the PC-A77B, which copes with 9 hard drives with so much room to spare ( http://rossaaa.googlepages.com/019.JPG ). I get that its a different shape, being more of a tower than the usual tower, but that alone doesnt justify a price over £200....
anyway, while the idea of further compartmentalising your pc is neat (taken to an extreme with that thermtake level 10 case), i dont think theres ever to be be a large real world benefit.
i think you need to make something clear. Larger case doesn't mean more expensive or cooler. It is just easier to fit all the large stuff you have, such as a radiator for WC. What make this case so special? the have 3 camber for controlling heat. The size of the case make it ideal for sucking the cool air in and carrying the heat out directly; without traveling a long distance (which i hate for larger cases). Since the fan are so close to the MB and other hardware you can turn down the rpm (for lower dba) and still get decent result in temperature . If you can get it cheap then it is a good air cooling case. If it cost you 400US just go for Watercooling and a 150US case. btw, i own this case and i love it; just hate the cable management of it.
Originally Posted by antaresIII You mean sensible with your own money. :D
I've been called many things over the years, 'sensible' is one of the least used comments. :D
The most sur-names originated from your dear one? (hahaha; sorry, hiihihi).
Just few minutes ago I told one German, that he's like a Schwabe, when he said " I'm not prepared to open my wallet SO WIDELY". (Schwaben are the people (nation) of Baden-Württemberg country; Germany is a federal state).
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi Raven2 is in.
No. But it is a well featured/performance case, just out of reach in terms of money asked for :P and obviously no case is to everyone's taste, The X2000 and PC-888 were not a great in build, performance or price, and they were also a Lian Li.
I didn't mean the case is junk, just that, for that kind of money, I expect more. Much more.
This almost seems like an attempt to see just how much they can get away with.
Wow... This is a very nice case... seems to represent well engineered air cooling, and quiet operation. Some of the other post complaining about the lack of water cooling are kind of irrelevant considering there is a picture on Lian Li's website of this case with a 140.2 radiator mounted in it...
From simply looking at the design, you can tell this is really intended to be a high-end air cooling case. However, should you choose to, there are pre-cut holes for water cooling, and room to mount a 140.2 (front) + 140.1 (back) or 120.2 + 120.1 radiators in this case without having to cut into the chassis. Anyway you look at it⦠this seems to be a very well thought-out and engineered case. Yes, the price is wickedly high, but this solution seems to have one of the best noise-to-airflow ratios. I like it!
Originally Posted by leslie I didn't mean the case is junk, just that, for that kind of money, I expect more. Much more.
This almost seems like an attempt to see just how much they can get away with.
It's the Apple ethos: design it different and elegant and pay for something unique, rather than a rectangular box. I'd imagine the tooling it quite different and an investment for Lian Li. Unless they make every case like this I doubt costs will go down quickly, rather than Lian trying to rip people off.
They have the most minimal and sleek quality cases in the market. However, I believe that Lian - Li designers are starting to lose the plot 'very slightly'. They may still have the best designs, but they are slowly losing the crown of minimalism and going backwards, in general.
Now look at a newer case here: http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=313&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=63
Why spoil the front of the case design by putting two completely different mesh styles in the front to make it look 'off key'. It seems like the designers do this just to make it look like they have changed the design and done something new. I believe that if a design is 'ace', then don't change it unless you are going to make the newer cases look better.
Another example: http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=336&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=61
I am extremely fussy when it comes to case designs. Every detailed line is important to me. The front of the case looks a little 'off key' due to the fact that the mesh section doesn't blend very well with the drive bay sections. The other thing is that if they are going to round the edges on the front of the case, then they should also round the edges on the back, so it looks balanced and symmetrical.
Don't get me wrong, the PC-X1000 is an incredibly nice looking case, compared to the average PC case. But it's not as good looking as Lian - Li designers are capable of designing.
I like the idea of the narrow depth to reduce the distance that the intake of air needs to travel to reach the rear of the case. I also like the fact that there are no air grills on the top of the case (to avoid an accidental drink spillage down through the top of the case into the main components). Although this design may not be totally friendly for certain internal radiator setups.
But overall, it's a very well made case. A little overpriced as well.
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ReplyAnd you just wanted to have the overprices expensive case...
I got the case as a review sample, and it was spares that I used to build the rig. I probably wouldn't have paid £300 to buy one because I would have had to justify it to my missus:D
Finally something to be consoled with! I instance not to forget the Corsair H50 (where to put that water kneader?).
Surely they must have some new releases that may be of interest to a larger audience?
You mean sensible with your own money. :D
anyway, while the idea of further compartmentalising your pc is neat (taken to an extreme with that thermtake level 10 case), i dont think theres ever to be be a large real world benefit.
Just few minutes ago I told one German, that he's like a Schwabe, when he said " I'm not prepared to open my wallet SO WIDELY". (Schwaben are the people (nation) of Baden-Württemberg country; Germany is a federal state).
I didn't mean the case is junk, just that, for that kind of money, I expect more. Much more.
This almost seems like an attempt to see just how much they can get away with.
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=336&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=61&g=t
From simply looking at the design, you can tell this is really intended to be a high-end air cooling case. However, should you choose to, there are pre-cut holes for water cooling, and room to mount a 140.2 (front) + 140.1 (back) or 120.2 + 120.1 radiators in this case without having to cut into the chassis. Anyway you look at it⦠this seems to be a very well thought-out and engineered case. Yes, the price is wickedly high, but this solution seems to have one of the best noise-to-airflow ratios. I like it!
It's the Apple ethos: design it different and elegant and pay for something unique, rather than a rectangular box. I'd imagine the tooling it quite different and an investment for Lian Li. Unless they make every case like this I doubt costs will go down quickly, rather than Lian trying to rip people off.
They have the most minimal and sleek quality cases in the market. However, I believe that Lian - Li designers are starting to lose the plot 'very slightly'. They may still have the best designs, but they are slowly losing the crown of minimalism and going backwards, in general.
For example, look at the beautiful minimalism and sophistication in the case linked here: http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=135&cl_index=1&sc_index=26&ss_index=65&g=q
Now look at a newer case here: http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=313&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=63
Why spoil the front of the case design by putting two completely different mesh styles in the front to make it look 'off key'. It seems like the designers do this just to make it look like they have changed the design and done something new. I believe that if a design is 'ace', then don't change it unless you are going to make the newer cases look better.
Another example: http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=336&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=61
I am extremely fussy when it comes to case designs. Every detailed line is important to me. The front of the case looks a little 'off key' due to the fact that the mesh section doesn't blend very well with the drive bay sections. The other thing is that if they are going to round the edges on the front of the case, then they should also round the edges on the back, so it looks balanced and symmetrical.
Don't get me wrong, the PC-X1000 is an incredibly nice looking case, compared to the average PC case. But it's not as good looking as Lian - Li designers are capable of designing.
I like the idea of the narrow depth to reduce the distance that the intake of air needs to travel to reach the rear of the case. I also like the fact that there are no air grills on the top of the case (to avoid an accidental drink spillage down through the top of the case into the main components). Although this design may not be totally friendly for certain internal radiator setups.
But overall, it's a very well made case. A little overpriced as well.
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