I would seriously consider one of these if I were making a large home data server, would be perfect with one of the OCZ self contained water cooling kits for the CPU.
Thats a stupid price to pay for a case that cannot hold any decent amount of watercooling. Silverstone TJ07 looks nicer I think as well, less cluttered on the inside.
I think that for a case of that size its rather poorly laid out. There is so much space in the upper and lower compartments that are not used and also not available to be used by aditional items. For a basic example, it looks as though that if the power supply was moved to the upper compartment, Lian-Li could have had 3, not 2 HDD racks. For it to be a 'Special' case I would expect to be suprised or even amazed that so much could fit inside a case, not think that a case of this size should hold so much more.
As for looks, anything that looks this much like a server should be just that. So I would not want that case anywhere in view.
As for cost, for extreme products there are extreme price tags that have nothing to do with the 'cost' of the product. So I personally don't have an issue with that, if you want it and you are looking for something like this I am sure you will find the money.
yeah, but are you willing to spend 300 quid on a case to have to cut into it for WC??? And to even mention that there was no room for 120.1 mounts is just sad (not that any respectable WC'er would be using just 120.1's but still).
Given that the TJ07 can fit a 120.3 +120.2 (almost another 120.3) in the bottom compartment without modding makes this pricetag a fail. Save the 100 pounds and get yourself one of those obsolete GPU's in 3 mos time.
I paid over £200 for my TJ07, but i wouldn't spend any more on a case. And i can see there is sooo much potential for the X1000, but i agree, the price is far to extreme. Looking at it's brother, the X200B is £326 on KustomPCs, now that is ouch.
Originally Posted by logan'srun yeah, but are you willing to spend 300 quid on a case to have to cut into it for WC??? And to even mention that there was no room for 120.1 mounts is just sad (not that any respectable WC'er would be using just 120.1's but still).
You see I disagree - you can now get 140mm radiators so just strap one to the base (maybe) and a .2 in the front.
The £200 Corsair can "only" fit in a .3 radiator (using smaller 120mm fans) in the roof and people are saying "that's enough".
Originally Posted by logan'srun yeah, but are you willing to spend 300 quid on a case to have to cut into it for WC??? And to even mention that there was no room for 120.1 mounts is just sad (not that any respectable WC'er would be using just 120.1's but still).
Given that the TJ07 can fit a 120.3 +120.2 (almost another 120.3) in the bottom compartment without modding makes this pricetag a fail. Save the 100 pounds and get yourself one of those obsolete GPU's in 3 mos time.
yes, but until you have fans that can actually perform at 140, then it's still a little loss in the amount of cooling you're dealing with.
And when you say 1, are you saying a 140.1? Does this imply you would have two separate loops, or one combined? I can see that a total 140.3 (however it's divided) would be 'enough' for most uses, as long as you're not dipping into the realms of tri-sli. But isn't that what this case is made for, tri and quad set-ups? With that amount of hardware in there I would want more cooling power, and as I stated you can get a 120.3 + 120.2 in the bottom of a TJ07 with no modding. Just take a look at the Murdermod stuff that Charles H puts out and you can see what can be accomplished with a case that 'only' costs £199 and still be as clean, if not more so, than anything done today. Period.
But I'm not disagreeing with the beauty of the case, it has lot's of potential, but the price makes it below a 4 on your scale I feel as ones we'll see in the upcoming year I'm sure will be sponsored builds and nothing more. Although I'd like to see the shaky dremel hand of the modder making rad cuts into the bottom panel who doesn't have sponsorship.
@Mighty Yoshimi - you can send me the other £300 and buy yourself the case since you'd pay double
But a case is, in its simplest form, a metal box. We've had the technology for years now. In fact, one could theoretically construct a case out of a wardrobe/filing cabinet+fans for about £150. The hardware is representative of almost the best technology can offer. £300 is a crazy price, the only people I can imagine buying it are people who think the higher the price the better.
I absolutely love the look of this case, along with its internals. Not so much bothered about watercooling but still... for £300 pound they are taking the mick a bit. I thought it was ment to be significantly cheaper then the X2000? Shame.
Roll on the PC-B25F. That also looks good and is tipped for £120.
It looks like nothing special, give me an Antec P18X or P19x series over this.
And why would anyone use this as a server as mentioned above, there are far cheaper boxes that will serve as a server (Antec 300, Cooler Master Centurion). You don't need a $300 box to house a simple server with lots of drives in a corner of your basement or closet.
Sorry, this case is just silly.
Look at what all it lacks, what it has, and what it is, B.T. got it right on value. $200 would be my limit, and that is stretching it.
Just because it has Lian-Li's name on it, it does not mean it is a great case.
I was lucky enough to get a review sample of the x1000, and x500 ages ago, and I loved them both. They look great, both inside and out, and the little touches like the hot swap SATA bays, and the dust filter were great.;) I wish I had kept hold of them now to be honest.
When I first saw this review, and wanted to make a small comment, at that time it had only 3 comments, I changed my mind and left. However I can't get off the feeling that something in regard has to be sad.
At the time of the fair, when the case was presented, you made a fine story of how nice it will be and all the rest, creating an anticipation.
Now it gets presented with this, for the most people, absurd price tag.
And this is the beginning of the story; the luxuriant gets reviewed without the Corsair H50. Maybe it would be better to say, the Luxuriant has made a review...
I have to admit, that the recent months did a credit to the recession mood. The reviews are treating some strange cases, "artistic games" and equally seasoned themes. Spiced occasionally with Luxuriant, so that the poor have the feeling of eating something new and tasty.
I always thought that the main theme here was enthusiast build with advices for the everyday one (second house PC). Now I'm in vain searching for Raven02, Obsidian has a merciful preview, Fortress 02 is an unknown news, just to tick off the most recent and leave in peace the less fortunate ones (that do not even get so far as to be mentioned).
Obsidian we're chasing Corsair (but that's also a £200 case) and Fortress 2 is coming soon afaik.
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Originally Posted by leslie Just because it has Lian-Li's name on it, it does not mean it is a great case.
No. But it is a well featured/performance case, just out of reach in terms of money asked for :P and obviously no case is to everyone's taste, The X2000 and PC-888 were not a great in build, performance or price, and they were also a Lian Li.
:o Just realised it's the x2000 I reviewed ages ago, teach me to get my numbers in a tizz:D I like the look of this x1000 though and I am sure it's just as good as the x2000.
Edit: Just read your last post Bindibadgi, why do think that the X1000 is much better than the X2000? The build quality of the X2000 was excellent, and it also had alot more features than this new X1000. It also looked much better with the internals being anodized black too. It also kept my GTX280 nice and cool, and my Q9550 (iirc) cool too. The only sticky point was the price tag as far as I was concerned. Performance and build quality were non issues.
2000 was not that great. Generally too big making PSU cables unable to easily fit. The edges were exceptionally sharp on the front facia, and it didn't fit together that well either.
The only issue with PSU cables I had was with the 24pin mobo cable, I had to go around the HSF to get it to fit. Regards the sharp edges on the front, I can't remember that, mebbe the rose tinted glasses though:D
Man that case is seriously hot. I can see it now, triple 140mm radiator, 12 tb data, and 1 tb raid 0 OCZ flash drives, blu-ray, dualbay screen and Tri-SLI. Man that case is just built for the max. If only I had like 6 grand to drop on a computer......robbing a bank sounds like fun hahaha
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ReplyThat said, if you're done with that one Bit... can I have it?
Edit: Just having a look at the predocessor, the X2000... did Joe knick it from the office? It looks awfully familiar...
this is such a thing that people really really want, but don't need.
As for looks, anything that looks this much like a server should be just that. So I would not want that case anywhere in view.
As for cost, for extreme products there are extreme price tags that have nothing to do with the 'cost' of the product. So I personally don't have an issue with that, if you want it and you are looking for something like this I am sure you will find the money.
$370 in the US
...still though...
-CollinstheClown
I'd pay twice that for a well built case.
Cos you can EASILY spend 300 on a graphics card and it's out of date in 3 months time.
A case will last you years and years and the functionality is the same.
Given that the TJ07 can fit a 120.3 +120.2 (almost another 120.3) in the bottom compartment without modding makes this pricetag a fail. Save the 100 pounds and get yourself one of those obsolete GPU's in 3 mos time.
Sam
You see I disagree - you can now get 140mm radiators so just strap one to the base (maybe) and a .2 in the front.
The £200 Corsair can "only" fit in a .3 radiator (using smaller 120mm fans) in the roof and people are saying "that's enough".
+1
And when you say 1, are you saying a 140.1? Does this imply you would have two separate loops, or one combined? I can see that a total 140.3 (however it's divided) would be 'enough' for most uses, as long as you're not dipping into the realms of tri-sli. But isn't that what this case is made for, tri and quad set-ups? With that amount of hardware in there I would want more cooling power, and as I stated you can get a 120.3 + 120.2 in the bottom of a TJ07 with no modding. Just take a look at the Murdermod stuff that Charles H puts out and you can see what can be accomplished with a case that 'only' costs £199 and still be as clean, if not more so, than anything done today. Period.
But I'm not disagreeing with the beauty of the case, it has lot's of potential, but the price makes it below a 4 on your scale I feel as ones we'll see in the upcoming year I'm sure will be sponsored builds and nothing more. Although I'd like to see the shaky dremel hand of the modder making rad cuts into the bottom panel who doesn't have sponsorship.
@Mighty Yoshimi - you can send me the other £300 and buy yourself the case since you'd pay double
Roll on the PC-B25F. That also looks good and is tipped for £120.
And why would anyone use this as a server as mentioned above, there are far cheaper boxes that will serve as a server (Antec 300, Cooler Master Centurion). You don't need a $300 box to house a simple server with lots of drives in a corner of your basement or closet.
Sorry, this case is just silly.
Look at what all it lacks, what it has, and what it is, B.T. got it right on value. $200 would be my limit, and that is stretching it.
Just because it has Lian-Li's name on it, it does not mean it is a great case.
At the time of the fair, when the case was presented, you made a fine story of how nice it will be and all the rest, creating an anticipation.
Now it gets presented with this, for the most people, absurd price tag.
And this is the beginning of the story; the luxuriant gets reviewed without the Corsair H50. Maybe it would be better to say, the Luxuriant has made a review...
I have to admit, that the recent months did a credit to the recession mood. The reviews are treating some strange cases, "artistic games" and equally seasoned themes. Spiced occasionally with Luxuriant, so that the poor have the feeling of eating something new and tasty.
I always thought that the main theme here was enthusiast build with advices for the everyday one (second house PC). Now I'm in vain searching for Raven02, Obsidian has a merciful preview, Fortress 02 is an unknown news, just to tick off the most recent and leave in peace the less fortunate ones (that do not even get so far as to be mentioned).
Obsidian we're chasing Corsair (but that's also a £200 case) and Fortress 2 is coming soon afaik.
No. But it is a well featured/performance case, just out of reach in terms of money asked for :P and obviously no case is to everyone's taste, The X2000 and PC-888 were not a great in build, performance or price, and they were also a Lian Li.
Edit: Just read your last post Bindibadgi, why do think that the X1000 is much better than the X2000? The build quality of the X2000 was excellent, and it also had alot more features than this new X1000. It also looked much better with the internals being anodized black too. It also kept my GTX280 nice and cool, and my Q9550 (iirc) cool too. The only sticky point was the price tag as far as I was concerned. Performance and build quality were non issues.
http://www.mypimpedpc.co.uk/x2000.jpg
EDIT: It was an ATI 4850 I had installed at the time, not the GTX280
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