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CardJoe 1st May 2009, 12:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by OWNED66
FIRST

Do that again and it's an insta-ban.
The boy 4rm oz 1st May 2009, 12:08 Quote
I can see great things for this case. Cut the sides off the removable shell, mount them permanently, mount a few radiators and your laughing lol.
oasked 1st May 2009, 12:27 Quote
ME wants.

That case looks sweet, now only if I actually had a use for a ITX system. :)
Jozo 1st May 2009, 12:51 Quote
Lovely case! Me wants too.

Would gladly have it with the setup from the review instead of my current ATX rig.
[USRF]Obiwan 1st May 2009, 12:52 Quote
It looks like a airconditioner.
perplekks45 1st May 2009, 13:38 Quote
Agree with oasked 100%.
Htr-Labs 1st May 2009, 15:46 Quote
Has anyone seen the Lian-Li PC-Q7? It's pretty close to this only taller. Not sure I could buy this one over the Lian-Li simple because of the ugliness factor. This thing does sorta look like an air conditioner....hardly something you would want cramping your style in the cinema room. Although I do see the advantages and disadvantages to a case like this, not quite sure I could pay $20 USD more for something that is clearly an inferior product to the Lian-Li. What do you guys think? Here is a link to the PC-Q7.

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=319&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=63

Peace
Bindibadgi 1st May 2009, 15:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Htr-Labs
Has anyone seen the Lian-Li PC-Q7? It's pretty close to this only taller. Not sure I could buy this one over the Lian-Li simple because of the ugliness factor. This thing does sorta look like an air conditioner....hardly something you would want cramping your style in the cinema room. Although I do see the advantages and disadvantages to a case like this, not quite sure I could pay $20 USD more for something that is clearly an inferior product to the Lian-Li. What do you guys think? Here is a link to the PC-Q7.

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=319&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=63

Peace

I have seen and requested from Lian Li already at CeBIT - we're still waiting on it, but I'll get onto them again. Maybe I'll just steal one while I'm in Taiwan in a months time... ;)
Htr-Labs 1st May 2009, 16:02 Quote
Oh excellent! Can't wait for the review on that one! Yes It will be released in 3 days and I already have my Newegg Wishlist built and ready to add to the cart for purchase. Haha :)
The boy 4rm oz 1st May 2009, 16:18 Quote
If that Lian Li was natively horizontally orientated and had a little bit extra pazzaz such as a thin chrome strip running down the front like they do on some of their other cases I would be all over it. Personally I think it is just a little too plain, reminds me a lot of a NAS box lol. I'm not saying that it's ugly, it is actually quite beautiful in its simplicity but personally not to my taste.
interzen 1st May 2009, 16:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]It looks like a airconditioner.
Under the appropriate circumstances it would probably sound like one too :-)

Any chance of a better definition of "not too intrusive" when it comes to fan noise? Not necessarily an 'x dbA' type figure but some kind of reference point would be handy - could be looking at the basis of a new, and relatively portable, audio-mangling box :-)
E.E.L. Ambiense 1st May 2009, 17:00 Quote
I was checking a modded one of these out at PPCs headquarters last week. Interesting little units. I really thought they'd be aluminum though for some reason. No biggie I suppose. Only gripe I'd have about it is cosmetic; I'd prefer a metal front. ;)
CSMR 1st May 2009, 17:08 Quote
Great case for a quiet machine (using external psu and replacing the 120mm fan).
naokaji 1st May 2009, 17:32 Quote
Shame Silverstone didn't think about installation a bit more, I know, it's not a case where you are going to mess around inside regularly, but still, it's Silverstone, so I would hav eexpected better.

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Originally Posted by Htr-Labs
What do you guys think? Here is a link to the PC-Q7.

Best part about it is that you can fit a normal psu, so you are free to use higher end components or buy a psu thats silent and efficient unlike the crap thats usually included with cases (and with small ones often not replacable due to odd size).
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Originally Posted by The boy 4rm oz
Personally I think it is just a little too plain, reminds me a lot of a NAS box lol.

They should have copied the look of the tyr and call it tyr-100
But then it's probably better that they didn't, or I would be building yet another pc:D
Htr-Labs 1st May 2009, 19:12 Quote
@naokaji - That was my first thought when I saw the difference between the two cases. I like to use Seasonic PSU's from teh S12II series and the Silverstone case has a funky size PSU. That and the thing is just so darn ugly lol. It's absolutely hideous to the max. Also my one complaint about the Lian-Li is it's lack of support for any GPU longer than the PCI Express slot. Basically you've got about an inch or two there but not enough for anything in the 8" and above range. Kinda cheeses me off, since I would totally use the Zotac 9300 board and slap a 9800 GT inside in a heartbeat. Talk about LAN Tourneys on the go! lol
shaffaaf27 1st May 2009, 21:27 Quote
what cpu cooler were u using
Jozo 1st May 2009, 22:41 Quote
I think they used ZALMAN CNPS8000. It is designed to be a low-profile heatsink

Newegg linky or if you prefer manufacturers site
Techno-Dann 2nd May 2009, 02:51 Quote
Not to nit-pick, or anything, but most Shuttles don't support dual-slot cooler video cards. The usual layout has a PCI or PCI-X 1x slot on the inside, and then the video card on the outside.
500mph 2nd May 2009, 04:43 Quote
I know what I am buying soon :D
Thanks bit, making me broke, review by review.
/joke
LoneArchon 2nd May 2009, 05:14 Quote
Have one these with a MSI IM-Q35. I found that it was not much of a challenge getting a 4850 in the case. Biggest issue I found was the selection of CPU coolers that would fit in 78mm. I ended up using a Zalman 8700 it was a squeeze but it does fit. Specs MSI IM-Q35 Ati 4850 Intel quad Q9400 4gb ram. Cooling is great for the size of case. Comment on water cooling you could get a 120mm with some work but you would lose the 3.5" drive bay using the stock lay out
ichobi 3rd May 2009, 07:17 Quote
I've been looking for a case like this for a long time. (Small and with good heat performance).
I wonder though if I go with Zotac M/B, what would be the best possible GFX card I could fit in to this little thing? seems like all the new card on the block are very long and big. I have a small room but would love to play high end PC games. This might just be a godsend!
dangman4ever 4th May 2009, 06:15 Quote
Any chance of you guys testing the PSU?

The reported ripple levels on the +12V rails and the non +12V rails are at 140mV and 70mV respectively. That exceeds the maximum recommended ripple as set forth by the ATX12V 2.2 specifications of 120mV and 50mV on the +12V rail and non +12V rails respectively IIRC. So does this mean that I should avoid using that FSP PSU since the ripple is out of spec?
Praxis1452 5th May 2009, 23:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by dangman4ever
Any chance of you guys testing the PSU?

The reported ripple levels on the +12V rails and the non +12V rails are at 140mV and 70mV respectively. That exceeds the maximum recommended ripple as set forth by the ATX12V 2.2 specifications of 120mV and 50mV on the +12V rail and non +12V rails respectively IIRC. So does this mean that I should avoid using that FSP PSU since the ripple is out of spec?
I have to second that. Would it be possible for you guys to test the PSU, at it is part of the included case and SFX power supplies are hard to find especially ones of that size. Ex. Seasonic eco 300W is 16mm thicker. Seasonic 350/300W SFX PS's are way deeper.

It's out of ATX spec and decently far out at that. Would be interesting to see, and noone else seems to have noticed.

Anyway, it'd be really useful info. Pls DO eeet.

edit: btw the lian li pc-7 has horrible cooling. I mean you don't have a 120mm intake and a full size PSU is alright, but really it makes the case a looot bigger. Also, Graphics cards would be mounted at the bottom with no air intake unlike the SG05 where you have it laying on its side and a side vent. This allows for fresh air to be drawn into the graphics card. Also allows for dual slot cooler. Basically the SG05 is a performance case in a tiny package unlike the Q07 which tries to be easier to fit. The ATX PSU would suggest higher wattage components than the silverstone but really without adequate cooling it's worthless anyway.
Bindibadgi 5th May 2009, 23:30 Quote
We've no plans to test the PSU sorry. Nowhere in the UK has a facility to do ripple testing as far as I'm aware either.

That said, we ran a machine with high end GPU, E5200 and pretty hardcore mini-ITX board for a whole day Prime95ing and 3DMark loop without an issue.
Baz 14th May 2009, 15:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Techno-Dann
Not to nit-pick, or anything, but most Shuttles don't support dual-slot cooler video cards. The usual layout has a PCI or PCI-X 1x slot on the inside, and then the video card on the outside.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Review
you’ll need to stretch to around £220 for a P-series chassis to accommodate a dual slot graphics card"

Additionally, Silverstone sent us a comment in regards to your comments on the PSU
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstone
"Regarding your concern with SG05’s PSU, this unit was selected and tuned by SilverStone engineers for
improved quietness and performance (300W continuous power at 50C). It has dedicated +12V rail for graphics card (16A, peak 19A)
to provide more than enough power for any 9" long dual slot graphics cards.

As a reference, here is a list of components used in the SG05 development system:
Intel Core 2 Quad 9550 95W CPU
MSI IM-Q35 DO Industrial Mini-ITX motherboard
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C5DX DDR2 memory
*AMD Radeon HD4850 graphics card*
WD Raptor 150GB + VelociRaptor 300GB 10,000rpm hard drives
Slim Blu-ray drive

*The Radeon HD4850 is currently the highest powered card that can fit inside the SG05 (more than NVIDIA GTS 250, which is a dual slot design.)"

and additionally, in regards to Ripple Noise, Silverstone have told us that the PSU's ripple noise is only a little higher than the recommendation from Intel, and this is only when the PSU is under imbalanced load. As we found in our testing, under normal system load you'll never notice it.
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