I really don't understand the lack of cable management on this case, especially on the outside.
A simply hinged door with a recess (to keep the design) with a hole top and bottom would make the back look so much tidier and would not be too much of an annoyance is the case needed moving.
I have a funny feeling that they simply designed this case to be different rather than actually to meet a target audience or even a aim (ie better cooling) of some sort.
I personally really like aggressive cases even though loads of people think there ugly. Like I do like the design features of this case, yet that comes after build quality, and features like cable management. I'd personally be really only using 1 HDD. 2 at the most, probably just get a Spinpoint F1 terabyte and leave it at that, dont really want full raid 0 style set ups.
Yet as stated, crappy cable management, the lack of vision in the side window is pretty crap, and for the materials used vs. price.. hm =\ not for me.
This case clearly has many different people involved in its design:
* Visually, it's beautiful.
* The plastic + steel may actually be ugly up close, and are inconsistent with the price.
* The 90 degree rotation is innovative both for heat management and port access.
* Many details of the design's functionality clearly were not fully thought through, and have major problems.
* Some design aspects suggest paying attention to the needs of its customer base (eg. rotated board), while others flatly ignore it.
In short, this case had the potential to be totally awesome, if it could stay edgy throughout its design & manufacturing process. But it looks like instead many features came out of a poorly run committee, probably placing the over all value at average for a case, with an extraordinary price tag.
I'm really curious about how the heat testing goes, and almost more curious about noise.
It's like someone at Silverstone saw Voodoo's last "Omen" and thought "Hey! We can do that cool mobo-rotating trick!" then somewhere along the way they decided to design the case to be the complete opposite of the sleek, understated Voodoo one to avoid drawing comparisons. But then they decided to use the name of a different Voodoo/HP product, the Blackbird! Haha, anyone know what happened to the Omen? It's no longer on Voodoo's website.
Does anyone absolutely hate when case manufacturers throw in plastic parts on to an otherwise alright looking case (not saying that the Raven is an otherwise alright looking case)? I can understand it on a case like Antec's P182/180 where the plastic helps keep things quiet but that is about it.
looks to me like this case has potential .. +1 for trying something different.. with any luck they'll do a revision of this model and it will fix all (or at least most) of the drawbacks!
* The 90 degree rotation is innovative both for heat management and port access.
Just wanted to point out that the Raven is less than ideal for (what is usually) rear I/O port access. It does point them upwards, but covers them with a top panel.
To remove this panel, you have to unlock it with the two finger-friendly turny wheels at the rear of the case, and then you're presented with an ugly PC backpanel. You can just about see one of the turny wheels in the bottom-right photo of the first page. You could leave these always unscrewed if you wanted to pop the top off any time you wanted, but it'd be a hassle.
And with only two USB 2.0, one FireWire and the headset conenctions at the front, it does look like SilverStone expects you to have a USB hub on your desk (and yet another cable to dangle out the back of the case).
I absolutely love the design. First PC case in a long time to embrace form. Now if the had only made it from brushed aluminium and not put in that window I'd be very impressed. But all in all it's for once a PC case that doesn't look like the standard box without turning into that blue monstrosity dubai tower case in other news.
I like the innovation/potential for better cool of the 90 degree rotation of the mobo, except for one thing...
For most (if not all) standard ATX mobos in the standard positioning the SATA, USB, Firewire etc. connectors run along the bottom/right of the board. This 90 degree configuration puts them closer to the rear/bottom of the case. Would it better serve to have it mounted, instead of on the right hand side (when looking from the front of the case), on the left (switch the mobo and window around)? This would put these connections closer to the front of the case and in theory wouldn't require as much running cables behind the mobo tray?
Its not like mounting mobos on the left hasnt been done before, and if youre going to break from tradition you might has well do it properly :D
Originally Posted by NaThRo I like the innovation/potential for better cool of the 90 degree rotation of the mobo, except for one thing...
For most (if not all) standard ATX mobos in the standard positioning the SATA, USB, Firewire etc. connectors run along the bottom/right of the board. This 90 degree configuration puts them closer to the rear/bottom of the case. Would it better serve to have it mounted, instead of on the right hand side (when looking from the front of the case), on the left (switch the mobo and window around)? This would put these connections closer to the front of the case and in theory wouldn't require as much running cables behind the mobo tray?
It’s not like mounting mobos on the left hasn’t been done before, and if you’re going to break from tradition you might has well do it properly :D
rotating it 90 causes most of the component to be grouped together, power connections are right there next to the power supply and so are the HDDs, the line you run up to your cpu is reduced as well since the short side is now the height
Think I'll pass.
The vertical mounting of the mobo is interesting though, but hell; I've been using the same skeletal case since the mid-nineties. Sure, it has lost all of its' panelling over the years, and looks like an abandoned scaffolding, but it houses my hardware rather well. But the time has come for it to be recycled and for my system to find a new home, and I think I will build it myself.
engadget has gotten so desperate for entries to their blog that they grabbing headlines from tech sites. I wouldn't mind but they come off very biased based on what little they can comprehend.
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Replyit's in his name, not mine! :p
A simply hinged door with a recess (to keep the design) with a hole top and bottom would make the back look so much tidier and would not be too much of an annoyance is the case needed moving.
I have a funny feeling that they simply designed this case to be different rather than actually to meet a target audience or even a aim (ie better cooling) of some sort.
Yet as stated, crappy cable management, the lack of vision in the side window is pretty crap, and for the materials used vs. price.. hm =\ not for me.
* Visually, it's beautiful.
* The plastic + steel may actually be ugly up close, and are inconsistent with the price.
* The 90 degree rotation is innovative both for heat management and port access.
* Many details of the design's functionality clearly were not fully thought through, and have major problems.
* Some design aspects suggest paying attention to the needs of its customer base (eg. rotated board), while others flatly ignore it.
In short, this case had the potential to be totally awesome, if it could stay edgy throughout its design & manufacturing process. But it looks like instead many features came out of a poorly run committee, probably placing the over all value at average for a case, with an extraordinary price tag.
I'm really curious about how the heat testing goes, and almost more curious about noise.
Does anyone absolutely hate when case manufacturers throw in plastic parts on to an otherwise alright looking case (not saying that the Raven is an otherwise alright looking case)? I can understand it on a case like Antec's P182/180 where the plastic helps keep things quiet but that is about it.
I was rather looking forward to this case - even if it was only just for the rotated motherboard...
Just wanted to point out that the Raven is less than ideal for (what is usually) rear I/O port access. It does point them upwards, but covers them with a top panel.
To remove this panel, you have to unlock it with the two finger-friendly turny wheels at the rear of the case, and then you're presented with an ugly PC backpanel. You can just about see one of the turny wheels in the bottom-right photo of the first page. You could leave these always unscrewed if you wanted to pop the top off any time you wanted, but it'd be a hassle.
And with only two USB 2.0, one FireWire and the headset conenctions at the front, it does look like SilverStone expects you to have a USB hub on your desk (and yet another cable to dangle out the back of the case).
not as bas as the lian-li hahahaha
Oh my god, that so corny
For most (if not all) standard ATX mobos in the standard positioning the SATA, USB, Firewire etc. connectors run along the bottom/right of the board. This 90 degree configuration puts them closer to the rear/bottom of the case. Would it better serve to have it mounted, instead of on the right hand side (when looking from the front of the case), on the left (switch the mobo and window around)? This would put these connections closer to the front of the case and in theory wouldn't require as much running cables behind the mobo tray?
Its not like mounting mobos on the left hasnt been done before, and if youre going to break from tradition you might has well do it properly :D
rotating it 90 causes most of the component to be grouped together, power connections are right there next to the power supply and so are the HDDs, the line you run up to your cpu is reduced as well since the short side is now the height
The vertical mounting of the mobo is interesting though, but hell; I've been using the same skeletal case since the mid-nineties. Sure, it has lost all of its' panelling over the years, and looks like an abandoned scaffolding, but it houses my hardware rather well. But the time has come for it to be recycled and for my system to find a new home, and I think I will build it myself.
By the way; does it float? ;)
For sack of god they need to burn that case on hell. hell no I'm not buying one.
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