To be honest, I wouldn't use the handle on any case. However, once the lid is on the thing gains rigidity and isn't flexible at all. Imo, the handle would work as well without the support bar as it would with it.
U know,this rubbish box named "Q-BOX" in PR China,and u can get it from newegg.com.cn with a price of only £26(without PSU).But I think Silverstone SG-01B-E will be much better but much more expensive.You must have £79 if you want it,and also,the price is a price without any PSU.
Originally Posted by antiHero Aspire used to make the same once. Pretty rubish as when fullpacked the handle up front bends like craze. I you guys like the Formfactor check this one. Same size but fully Alu and build in Fancontroller
I am thinking about getting it.
that is pure sexy my friend much better alternative :)
From the looks of things, the X-Qpack, MicroFly and AeroCube are all revisions of the same case. Although I couldn't tell you who actually machines them.
Sorry, those ...s are meant to lead into the next paragraph, where it's talking about the removable motherboard tray. The lack of removable drives (poor) when including a removable mobo tray (good) was meant to be ironic.
I've been using this case for about 6 months now that i picked up for just under £60 from ebuyer. It runs my ADM 64 X2 3800+ at an avergae 32 degrees-ish, and only goes a little higher under load, thanks to that 120mm fan. yeah, the case is a little flimsy, and it did make me look like some kind of headcase with cuts all over my hands, but all of my mates are amazed that I have a cube.
Plus, if you REALLY don't like the grey, get some primer, and spray the damn thing black! Its easy and with a bit of persuasion the front facia comes of easily. Mine was originally red (how it was so cheap) and you can pic up all the stuff at Halfords or your local little hardware shop for peanuts.
Originally Posted by Silver51 I have on of those. The thinness of the case has never been an issue. Compared to my previous Thermaltake Xaser III case, this one I feel comfortable carrying to LAN parties.
Ive squeezed a Core 2 Duo in under a Zalman 9500 LED at the expense of the support bar that runs over the CPU socket. Of the two hard drives in the case, one is now secured to whats left of the support bar and the other is in the upper most 5 ½ bay.
Power isnt so much of an issue as I swapped out the PSU that came with the case for an Enermax Liberty. The catch is that the optical drive needs to be quite short, so I went with a standard LG DVD burner.
The other minor issue I had with the case, other than the plastic over the front display was the noise of the case fan. Rather than forking out extra, I just changed the wires in the molex feeding it to 12v / 5v (instead of 12 / ground) to run the fan on 7 volts.
Edit: I guess I should say that it's running an E6600 and Gf7900 and all that goes with them. I'll put an 8xxx in sometine early next year.
I'm glad to see that you were able to remove the drive support rail without problems. I, too, am running X-Qpack sporting a C2D (the E6700 tho), but I'm still using the boxed cooler. I was always worried the hard drives would rattle themselves silly without that support rail, but I think i'll give it a try now. I'm also running an OCZ Modstream 480watt, and I have just enough room to snake some molex connectors through for the optical drives and to power my gf7900.
I'm hoping the 8900gtx won't be 11" long and can be powered by my PSU, because that may pose a problem for me. The Modstream 480watt pumps 28amps thru the 12V bus.
Originally Posted by Steve D .. I was always worried the hard drives would rattle themselves silly without that support rail, but I think i'll give it a try now. ..
If you manage to keep the hard drive cage in there, it'll give what's left of the support rail some rigidity. Unfortunately the 9500 obstructed the power leads for the hard drives the way were originally mounted in the drive cage.
In order to make it all fit the drives had to be flipped over (and moved backwards) to the position in the picture. You can't really tell from the image, but the edge of the cage facing the support rail has been cut away to allow the hard drive to screw directly to the rail. The remains of the cage (now L shape) slides down on it's own rails and is screwed onto to the other side of the hard drive to try and give the drive and main rail support. To make this work, you'd need to drill holes for the screws though.
I did think about screwing a support strut underneath the lot, but it hasn't needed it so far.
I still wonder how people can build a computer using some of the best hardware components, but skimp out on the PSU & case. I don't think I'll ever use a sub $100 case, just the quality is so worth the price.
I can see the selling point for this case, portability, but I wouldn't trust putting my high end gaming rig in it. Just how I look at things.
Originally Posted by sui_winbolo I still wonder how people can build a computer using some of the best hardware components, but skimp out on the PSU & case. I don't think I'll ever use a sub $100 case, just the quality is so worth the price.
I can see the selling point for this case, portability, but I wouldn't trust putting my high end gaming rig in it. Just how I look at things.
To be honest, the Qpack wasn't my first choice. I wanted a Lanfire to replace my Xaser but they've since been discontinued. I bought the Qpack because it wasn't just another custom fascia on a rectangular box. It was either that or a Shuttle.
Originally Posted by sui_winbolo I still wonder how people can build a computer using some of the best hardware components, but skimp out on the PSU & case. I don't think I'll ever use a sub $100 case, just the quality is so worth the price.
I can see the selling point for this case, portability, but I wouldn't trust putting my high end gaming rig in it. Just how I look at things.
I totally agree on the PSU bit but the only aspect of a case that affects how your system performs is airflow. Beyond that the design of the case sets some limits on what can fit inside but after that it's all aesthetics: looks, sound, ease of use... Frankly the components have no clue as to what kind of case they are in. I've built many systems with m-atx boards and would say that very very few, if any, m-atx boards qualify as high end stuff and very few of them come close to the overclocking options of full size atx boards. Additionally most SFF systems tend to stay unaltered longer so some of the considerations of a full size system matter less.
I've built a system (e6300, Asus P5LD2-VM, EVGA 7600GT) in this case (all black, no windows, no lights in the fans) and it's just as fast and stable as if it was in a CM-830 Stacker or sitting on my desk without a case. I was going to use a better power supply but the included one has caused no problems and this machine is destined to be an HTPC anyway.
My point is that not everyone is out to make the most 133t 94m3r system ever and for some people this case is quite adequate if it comes at a reasonable price.
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that is pure sexy my friend much better alternative :)
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Then it cuts to 2 pictures then a totally new sentance.
Other than that. Nice review. Shame the case is a bit lame though :(
Doh!
Plus, if you REALLY don't like the grey, get some primer, and spray the damn thing black! Its easy and with a bit of persuasion the front facia comes of easily. Mine was originally red (how it was so cheap) and you can pic up all the stuff at Halfords or your local little hardware shop for peanuts.
I'm hoping the 8900gtx won't be 11" long and can be powered by my PSU, because that may pose a problem for me. The Modstream 480watt pumps 28amps thru the 12V bus.
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If you manage to keep the hard drive cage in there, it'll give what's left of the support rail some rigidity. Unfortunately the 9500 obstructed the power leads for the hard drives the way were originally mounted in the drive cage.
In order to make it all fit the drives had to be flipped over (and moved backwards) to the position in the picture. You can't really tell from the image, but the edge of the cage facing the support rail has been cut away to allow the hard drive to screw directly to the rail. The remains of the cage (now L shape) slides down on it's own rails and is screwed onto to the other side of the hard drive to try and give the drive and main rail support. To make this work, you'd need to drill holes for the screws though.
I did think about screwing a support strut underneath the lot, but it hasn't needed it so far.
I can see the selling point for this case, portability, but I wouldn't trust putting my high end gaming rig in it. Just how I look at things.
To be honest, the Qpack wasn't my first choice. I wanted a Lanfire to replace my Xaser but they've since been discontinued. I bought the Qpack because it wasn't just another custom fascia on a rectangular box. It was either that or a Shuttle.
I totally agree on the PSU bit but the only aspect of a case that affects how your system performs is airflow. Beyond that the design of the case sets some limits on what can fit inside but after that it's all aesthetics: looks, sound, ease of use... Frankly the components have no clue as to what kind of case they are in. I've built many systems with m-atx boards and would say that very very few, if any, m-atx boards qualify as high end stuff and very few of them come close to the overclocking options of full size atx boards. Additionally most SFF systems tend to stay unaltered longer so some of the considerations of a full size system matter less.
I've built a system (e6300, Asus P5LD2-VM, EVGA 7600GT) in this case (all black, no windows, no lights in the fans) and it's just as fast and stable as if it was in a CM-830 Stacker or sitting on my desk without a case. I was going to use a better power supply but the included one has caused no problems and this machine is destined to be an HTPC anyway.
My point is that not everyone is out to make the most 133t 94m3r system ever and for some people this case is quite adequate if it comes at a reasonable price.