I like the idea of the key tray thing...but thats about it, all that mesh must bean the insides must get just a little bit dusty after a few weeks of use :p/
I'd rather have screws for my PCI cards than a screwless solution, TBH. I have yet to see a screwless system that holds the cards as securely as the old-fasioned screw does, and is as easy to install. Besides, you can't install these in a case with a screwless system, and they're basically a must-have for me.
(edit: It was a great review of a rather boring case. I love your case reviews, they're some of the best I've seen on the internet.)
The pin headers are a good idea, not a bad one - the last two cases I built had compatibility problems with the power and power LED front-panel connectors which woudl have been solved by this.
But jeez, you'd have thought we'd have been able to standardise this particularly basic issue by now, and just have one monolithic connector.
A pretty good review, there. However, I'll second Techno-Dann in that I like to lock down any expansion cards with screws. Maybe it's just one of those "old-fashioned" moments, but I prefer the peace of mind in knowing that any expansion cards are locked down nice and tight. Plus, I'm not one to change hardware so often as to get annoying. Once my graphics card is installed it's good for at least a year, so exchanging hardware is not an issue. Now, having to take apart half the case in order to install a graphics card? No thanks.
I'm with supermonkey and Techno-Dann on this one - I much prefer the peace of mind offered by threaded bits of metal to the convenience of "flimsy" plastic. Oh, and BTW, that cardkeeper looks amazing.. i think I shall have to sort myself out a few of them. :D
I like the look of the case, and I think that it could look really nice with a bit of modding. However, I am put off by the small size, drive cage and the lack of removable mobo tray. Overall, I am quite surprised this is an Antec case... I though the produced good cases.
My last few builds have been in Micro-ATX cases where screws & complex assembly are part of practically every case. I have a test bench to build & test the systems before I put them into a case - once there it's usually about a year before I make hardware changes. I'd actually be interested in a M-ATX version of this case (with a few changes)
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Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes The pin headers are a good idea...
But jeez, you'd have thought we'd have been able to standardise this particularly basic issue by now, and just have one monolithic connector.
Phil
Seconded (for the hundredth time)
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE I'm with supermonkey, Techno-Dann and eddtox on this one. screws and thumb screws all the way for me :D
At the moment, it's not stable enough for long enough to run all of the games we test with, we've had it looping 3DMark just fine, but most of our other testing has been nothing more than a headache. I'm waiting for a wonderBIOS right now.
How do you figure that it can't be watercooled? a PA160 or good quality 'core can be fit under the 200mm fan, as well as a 120.2 on the front panel with a custom honeycomb cover. The pump (a DDC) could easily be bolted to the bottom of the 'core, and the res (swiftech micro, obviously) can be stowed somewhere.
Every time I see an at best very average case like this I get the urge to pimp the eclipse :) at least till Bit-tech eventually review it for themselves :hint hint:
Great review, but I still dig the motherboard-ready pin headers, and screw tight card locks. But what I don't dig is that with all the fans wouldn't one want to direct the inflow of air one way or another? With the slotted PCI expansion covers, that allows air to come in from any which way it pleases, even from the hot PSU exhaust. Which may not really be a concern for some, but if you are looking for the best AIR cooled case, you might want to take the air from the lowest/coolest area possible. Not from right out of the PSU. I dunno, maybe i don't know much about it... but that seems like it just doesn't make sense
Hi there, new to the forums, been reading lots of sweet modding projects around here.
Anyone know if you can find that 200mm fan for sale somewhere, or any other big (larger than 120mm) fan for that matter?
Thanks in advance.
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XS said basically the same thing. Id save up and have an 830 if i wanted the best air-cooled case, or for the same price get a P180.
Sam
(edit: It was a great review of a rather boring case. I love your case reviews, they're some of the best I've seen on the internet.)
But jeez, you'd have thought we'd have been able to standardise this particularly basic issue by now, and just have one monolithic connector.
Phil
Nevertheless, it was a good review.
-monkey
I like the look of the case, and I think that it could look really nice with a bit of modding. However, I am put off by the small size, drive cage and the lack of removable mobo tray. Overall, I am quite surprised this is an Antec case... I though the produced good cases.
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G80, OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC..... HOT HOT HOT!!!!!!!
Is that not a 680i from eVGA? When is that being reviewed?
& Hey, I was about to post that.
At the moment, it's not stable enough for long enough to run all of the games we test with, we've had it looping 3DMark just fine, but most of our other testing has been nothing more than a headache. I'm waiting for a wonderBIOS right now.
A cut down lower quality stacker to be honest :(
Thank you Bit-Tech, my PC-60W PlusII is on its way.
Glad that you're never afraid to say it isn't worth it.
HARSH! (But possibly quite true :P)
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Anyone know if you can find that 200mm fan for sale somewhere, or any other big (larger than 120mm) fan for that matter?
Thanks in advance.