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Antec P180 low-noise case

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Hamish 25th January 2006, 14:41 Quote
Antec cases > * as far as im concerned
i would love a P180 with P160 internals, really nto a fan of the bottom psu type thing
p160 is great on the inside but its pretty ugleh :p
Kameleon 25th January 2006, 14:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
The case comes in silver and black only, and Antec has not expressed any interest in producing other colors.

http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/p180.html :p

A highly sexy version in all black, specially made for SPCR. Wish we could get it over here :(

Great review though dude, I really like your style :)
specofdust 25th January 2006, 15:02 Quote
Personally, I think the silver version looks quite a bit better then the black one, but I guess thats just me. I'd consider this case now, but only for a secondary system(it does sound rather spiffy as an HTPC case), especially because of the svelte looks and the lack of noise, even when loaded with high end gear. However its now totaly off the list for my next gaming PC, in favour of the CM stacker, since the cabling was obviously an issue.

But yeah, was a top review, I too, really liked the style of it. If I have one complaint, its that, for a case review, pictures that you can click to expand in a new page are really really helpfull, that might be outta the question because of bandwidth requirements, but its usefull, because it allows you to really check out all the details that are being described.
Da Dego 25th January 2006, 15:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kameleon
http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/p180.html :p

A highly sexy version in all black, specially made for SPCR. Wish we could get it over here :(

Great review though dude, I really like your style :)
Exclusive to SPCR though, Antec have officially informed me they will not make it further or release that elsewhere... I wish they WOULD make it in other colors, but then again that's what paint is for, isn't it? :D

And thanks for the compliment. If there's something you guys want to see different out of my reviews, speak now! I will always be looking at things from the HTPC angle, as that's my focus on the site :)
phuzz 25th January 2006, 15:15 Quote
I'd like it if case reviews also mentioned modding possiblities in a case, especially how sutible it would be for watercooling.

I do like the look of this case, but it does seem a little bit cramped. Guess it would be easy enough to hang a 120mm radiator on the back, but is there enough room for a res and and pump and stuff to fit somewhere inside the case?
Highland3r 25th January 2006, 15:17 Quote
Did you have any issues with ATX cable length at all?
Tempted by one of these along with an S12 600w PSU, but can't get a straight answer as to wether the cable will reach :)
eek 25th January 2006, 15:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kameleon
A highly sexy version in all black, specially made for SPCR. Wish we could get it over here :(
Umm, is this not it here or am i missing something?
Da Dego 25th January 2006, 15:28 Quote
@Phuzz:
Yes, assuming you do not need one or the other hard drive bay...they would honestly require removal to fit watercooling comfortably.

@Highland3r:
No, I had no problems with it *reaching*. Navigating to get it there was another matter, as you can tell...but I would definitely say go with an S12 PSU, as that coupled with this case really quiets things down. There is no problem with cable length, it just makes a mess... ;)
Kameleon 25th January 2006, 15:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by eek
Umm, is this not it here or am i missing something?

Well paint my face green and call me a watermelon, so it is
Highland3r 25th January 2006, 15:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kameleon
Well paint my face green and call me a watermelon, so it is


Ebuyer sell em too :D
*orders*
fev 25th January 2006, 16:01 Quote
dammit i need to sell my shuttle to fund my new computer.... this case would go perfect DAMN IT
phuzz 25th January 2006, 17:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
@Phuzz:
Yes, assuming you do not need one or the other hard drive bay...they would honestly require removal to fit watercooling comfortably.
ah, cheers, that's the sort of thing I'm looking for in a new case, and hence in a case review :)
Kipman725 25th January 2006, 17:18 Quote
Having built a pc in one of these I don't recomend them, for the price you can get much better alu cases with less space for hard disks as the antec case can take about 10! and this just makes it difficult to fit anything else in.
Kameleon 25th January 2006, 17:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kipman725
Having built a pc in one of these I don't recomend them, for the price you can get much better alu cases with less space for hard disks as the antec case can take about 10! and this just makes it difficult to fit anything else in.

Hang on, lots of space for hard drives is a bad thing?
Will 25th January 2006, 17:40 Quote
Nice review, very thorough :)

I think the cable mess is something inherent to these compartmentalised designs...seems like such a good idea, but routing the cables through to each section proves troublesome (the YY cube I used to have was a nightmare for cable management, was such a mess and the hole through which cables could be passed was far too small :().

A compartmentalised design would work well if the power supply was designed with wires of the right lengths to go exactly where they are needed, and if there were conduits through which they could easily be routed...but that'd need a power supply to be designed around the case a lot more and I can't see that happening due to cost.
whisperwolf 25th January 2006, 17:46 Quote
what would be nice is if these compartment type cases had an inbuilt wire system. so you plugged your power supply into sockets right next to the PSU and the case had the wires pre routed to were they were needed.
Cavedweller 25th January 2006, 17:48 Quote
I too would very much like to buy this case and fit watercooling in it.

I would imagine that if you loose the beefy 38mm (thickness) fan in the bottom you could fit a radiator there. Airflow there should be sufficient to cool it without a fan, or am i dreamin?

Even if i am, I'd imagine you could fit both radiator and a normal 120mm fan on each side of the bracket in the bottom, if one really wanted to.

[edit] Hey, i _own_ a dremel !!
Da Dego 25th January 2006, 17:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cavedweller
I too would very much like to buy this case and fit watercooling in it.

I would imagine that if you loose the beefy 38mm (thickness) fan in the bottom you could fit a radiator there. Airflow there should be sufficient to cool it without a fan, or am i dreamin?
Actually, if you didn't need the fan ON the rad, you could fit the rad where the fan is and put a 120 in the front of the case...there's airflow, I'm not sure if it would be sufficient though without not using the lower hard drive bays.
Techno-Dann 25th January 2006, 18:12 Quote
There's no space for another fan in the front of the lower compartment. The middle bracket is the only place for one.

One gripe I have with the case: The case was designed with the Antec Phantom PSUs in mind, but there is no space between the front of a Phantom 500 and the middle fan. Cable routing around that combination is very, very difficult.
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Originally Posted by Highland3r
Did you have any issues with ATX cable length at all?

On most motherboards (I put ASUS motherboards in this case all the time), the 24-pin ATX power connector reaches just fine. The 4-pin 12v connector on most PSUs won't reach all the way to the top of the case, so you'll probably need an extender for that.
AlexB 25th January 2006, 18:21 Quote
Looks nice to me - I could be swayed from my Lian Li for one of these :D
Firehed 25th January 2006, 18:34 Quote
I just picked up a SLK3000-B Antec case, and I'm quite happy with it. It's no Lian Li, but for $50, I'm very very impressed with the build quality. It's also very quiet, if it weren't for that damned stock Celeron D heatsink (which would probably be more muffled if there wasn't the big ducted opening right over it, though temps are great) and is decidedly rock-solid.

As for the one in the review - also looks nice, but too messy internals for my tastes. As it worked out, the one I got has been - easily - my cleanest build ever (and probably quickest as well), though not having an optical drive helps things out quite a bit in that department. As it turns out, you can route a 18" SATA cable fairly well out-of-sight to bridge a 3" gap between the ports and the drive. While I'd love the P180 for it's low noise and storage, I really don't think I've seen a case that can touch the value of what I ended up with (mostly due to the $70 price difference). The only thing I don't like is the very flimsy plastic door, but seeing as I only need to open it to turn the thing on, I'm not too bothered.
Veles 25th January 2006, 18:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Firehed
I just picked up a SLK3000-B Antec case, and I'm quite happy with it. It's no Lian Li, but for $50, I'm very very impressed with the build quality.

I've just bought that case myself for my first build, all the parts should be brought up from home sometime today ^^. I was looking at the P-180, people have said to me although it can be a pain to install everything in it's a really good case, I just couldn't justify the cost when I could get the SLK3000B for much cheaper.
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If there were a quiet, high-efficiency modular PSU, I would be taking advantage of it right now.

It's called a Tagan EasyCon :p
Trekari 25th January 2006, 19:48 Quote
One flaw that needs mentioning has to do with the front door.

Due to the various materials used in it, it has a tendancy to warp when exposed to the heat that the PC generates. The plastic and aluminum expand at slightly different rates, so the door bends (noticeably in most cases).

Check the SPCR forums for more information, but it is a known issue and should be mentioned for thoroughness.

-Jason
Da Dego 25th January 2006, 19:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
It's called a Tagan EasyCon :p
I was unaware Tagan's models have made it into the 80+ club? If they have, I've missed it... So far I have yet to find a higher efficiency than the S12 series, though the antec phantoms come close.

EDIT: TechnoDann, there is a space for a fan at the front of each hard drive bay. :) You can fit a normal 120 in there...

EDIT2: Oooh, SPCR use the same PSU I do! Never noticed that!
cpemma 25th January 2006, 20:04 Quote
This case has been designed from the ground up to be low-noise (as Da Dego has correctly identified; too many other reviews miss the point and install a noisy HSF) so if a consequence is a longer build time to install your board and run cables, so be it. Plenty of other cases if you want low weight, or more flash, or easy assembly, or whatever. ;)

The SPCR review gives some more tips to aid assembly, but they do admit,
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Correctly routing the cables in the P180 is a time-consuming task...
But I'm sure anybody with a windowed case takes just as much time getting the internals looking "just right", don't they? ;)
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