Published on 1st December 2016 by
Originally Posted by DbDAffordable that alrounder is not, I just did a build for someone last w/e who was properly cash strapped and it didn't look that different to yours but cost about 3/5ths. In particular there's no need to spend £95 on a motherboard, you are not o/c so don't need an aftermarket fan, that case costs over twice what you need to spend, and everything else is available cheaper.
Aria PC components
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H DDR3 £30
CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.70GHz £98
PSU: 450W Antec VP450P £32
HD: Western Digital AV-GP 500GB £22
O/C UK components
Memory: Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit £38
GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 Mini 2048MB GDDR5 £107
midi case: Nova Midi Tower Case - Black Window £30
or for a smaller pc: AeroCool Qs-180 Micro-ATX £25
Total (assuming cheaper case): £181
Overall total: £379 (including delivery)
Originally Posted by OmnislipLovely read, I like the presence of the mini-ITX machine (though why not make it really small with the RVZ-02 you reviewed?)
Originally Posted by stoteaI can't believe there is zero mention of sound cards, or did I just miss it?
Originally Posted by Dogbert666
- Cheesecake test you say... ? :D
Originally Posted by Pete JGood to see the return of the buyer's guide! One thing I always find funny is the inevitable 'you did it wrong, here's wot I would do' posts. Having said that, I feel you guys have been a bit harsh towards AMD. If one was to build a pure gaming PC, I would definitely be considering them over Intel. And although Intel's productivity is better, in reality not many people are going to be pushing their systems hard for extended periods.
I stand by Dogbert's statement. I remember back when I started building PCs (i7-920 era), on board sound was awful and you really could hear the difference (and I had to put up with Creative's crap drivers). Nowadays, on board sound is easily equivalent to a good budget sound card - though if it's a Realtek thing, I actually recommend not installing the drivers as they've followed in Creative's footsteps with crap drivers. I personally don't bother buying a separate sound card any more.
Originally Posted by Dogbert666...Plus, we generally consider onboard sound to be good enough these days. Call us peasants, but there you go!
Originally Posted by Dogbert666To address other points so far:
- Cheesecake test you say... ? :D
Originally Posted by BindibadgiIf you're absolutely set on very low budget/low expectation gaming machine and/or no GPU, then sure FM2+ all the way, but even an i3+mainstream GPU will be big step up.
Originally Posted by XirAh! Thank you!, finally brought back the HWB-Guide.
Now don't let it slack and keep it quarterly :D
Of course I differ with your choice of hardware, but it's a great "reality check".
There are three points that caught my eye.
Cooling - only in the PR do you mention an air-cooling alternative, why not in the other builds? Price/performancewise aircooling is not dead. Even the best (expensive) aircoolers are cheaper than the cheapest (not so great) AIW's.
Storage - The EG and PR are quite matched in performance (and rightly so, they probably hit the sweet spot of gamers), yet the 2TB mass storage in the EG is missing in the PR. Oh. I'd like a brand/model or two mentioned of those spinners, nobody's testing them anymore
Pricing - You do seem to opt for the rather pricey options, noticable especially in the AAW. Why splurge on an AIW-cooler in a non-OC-system when even the much more powerfull PR has a cheap aircooler mentioned? I need to learn to read right
Pheasant! errr wait, what?
No, I agree :D
Originally Posted by perplekks45Oh yes, I do!
Originally Posted by Dogbert666Fair few things to address here. First, the build is not designed for someone who is "properly strapped for cash".
Second, the prices listed are not referring to specific websites or designed to be the absolute cheapest available. They're rough estimates from price comparison tools, and even then we typically round up to the nearest £5 - prices fluctuate, and people will be looking at this article beyond today. For example, the price of the CPU and memory you've listed have increased.
Third, hardware choices. I would strongly push people towards 1050 Ti 4GB over 1050 2GB and towards a ~256GB SSD over a 512GB HDD (seriously, HDD?) for reasons outlined in the article. Adds cost, but well worth it.
Thus leaving us with motherboard and case. Fair shout on both points :) I'd say H170 is worth it over H110, but I could be persuaded the other way. Either way, the selection isn't designed to simply be the cheapest bed for the chosen components and we also have no hands-on experience with boards this low-end. It's also acknowledged that you can go lower than that both in the article and in the comments. As for the case, sure, you can go cheaper than the S340, and the Nova is a case we even gave an award to. But in terms of looks and build quality the S340 is far superior to the Nova, and hey this is bit-tech ;)
Originally Posted by BindibadgiPR is 1TB SSD instead of 2TB HDD.
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi...You can't really test reliability at this level and everyone has their preferred brand. PR is 1TB SSD instead of 2TB HDD.
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